had unprotected sex sooo scared!!!..!!??

[plornive]

Dude, listen to me because what I tell you is 100 percent true.

1. Pulling out works. The statistics you read on websites about the success rates of different birth control methods are usually based on one full year of pracising the method --- NOT just one time.

2. Getting tested for STDs is mostly a waste of time --- even ask your doctor. The only STDs that are likely to lie latent in your body without symptoms are HIV, HPV (human papilloma virus which can lead to genital warts), and HSV (herpes). For HIV, there is an accurate antibody test. HIV is very difficult to get. HSV and HPV are more difficult to test for, and the blood tests are expensive. Mostly, doctors want you to have symptoms for HPV or HSV before testing for them, and usually they use a swab test.

3. Viruses are cumulative. You won't accumulate enough of an HIV viral load from fucking one girl one time, unless she has some other STDs and even then the chances are extremely slim. One must usually sleep with a lot of hos before he gets enough HIV in his system to the point that his body can't handle it and he becomes HIV positive. There are some studies done at the university of San Francisco that looked at couples in which one partner was HIV+ and the other was not. Most had no other STDs because they got HIV through blood transfusions. It takes 1000 fucks with a carrier or HIV+ person before you are likely to become HIV+. HSV and HPV are much easier to get, but you will probably never show symptoms of HPV (papilloma) if you get it and HSV could lie latent for a long time or never show up at all.

 

[doubles1]

thanks pl i apprecaite what you say im going to schedule a STD and HIV test soon


talk to you guys later...thanks for the support

 

[thebabydoc]

Dude, listen to me because what I tell you is 100 percent true.

1. Pulling out works. The statistics you read on websites about the success rates of different birth control methods are usually based on one full year of pracising the method --- NOT just one time.

2. Getting tested for STDs is mostly a waste of time --- even ask your doctor. The only STDs that are likely to lie latent in your body without symptoms are HIV, HPV (human papilloma virus which can lead to genital warts), and HSV (herpes). For HIV, there is an accurate antibody test. HIV is very difficult to get. HSV and HPV are more difficult to test for, and the blood tests are expensive. Mostly, doctors want you to have symptoms for HPV or HSV before testing for them, and usually they use a swab test.

3. Viruses are cumulative. You won't accumulate enough of an HIV viral load from fucking one girl one time, unless she has some other STDs and even then the chances are extremely slim. One must usually sleep with a lot of hos before he gets enough HIV in his system to the point that his body can't handle it and he becomes HIV positive. There are some studies done at the university of San Francisco that looked at couples in which one partner was HIV+ and the other was not. Most had no other STDs because they got HIV through blood transfusions. It takes 1000 fucks with a carrier or HIV+ person before you are likely to become HIV+. HSV and HPV are much easier to get, but you will probably never show symptoms of HPV (papilloma) if you get it and HSV could lie latent for a long time or never show up at all.

Sorry plornive, 100% wrong. Don't really have the time to go into it now, but every single thing you posted is in one way or another incorrect.

 

[thebabydoc]

Re: Re: had unprotected sex sooo scared!!!..!!??

The way most ovulation cycles work is that a woman's fertile days are the 13-17th days of her "cycle" (start on the 1st day of your period and count the days) depending on how long her period lasts!

During a woman's menstrual cycle, there are only about three days when her egg is available for fertilization. Sperm can survive up to 72 hours (3 days) in the vagina and uterus, so if sexual intercourse occurs up to three days before a woman is fertile, she can still potentially become pregnant. Thus, there are about six days per month (3 days prior to fertility, and 3 days of fertility) that a woman can conceive.

Just about entirely correct. Withdrawal has about an 18% failure rate. Ovulation occurs approximately 14 days PRIOR to menstruation, sperm can survive aout 72 hours, the egg closer to 48. HIV is RARELY trasmitted from female to male (1 in 200 with KNOWN HIV+ female). Chlamydia and Gonorrhea are far more frequently transmited as are HPV and Herpes, though I don't recall the exact numbers at present. Get full STD testing in a couple of weeks, don't sweat the HIV but should retest in 3 months if you do test now.

 

[out_at_sea]

Re: Re: Re: had unprotected sex sooo scared!!!..!!??

Just about entirely correct. Withdrawal has about an 18% failure rate. Ovulation occurs approximately 14 days PRIOR to menstruation, sperm can survive aout 72 hours, the egg closer to 48. HIV is RARELY trasmitted from female to male (1 in 200 with KNOWN HIV+ female). Chlamydia and Gonorrhea are far more frequently transmited as are HPV and Herpes, though I don't recall the exact numbers at present. Get full STD testing in a couple of weeks, don't sweat the HIV but should retest in 3 months if you do test now.

Are you saying that is unlikely to get HIV for a male who boinks a chick who has HIV+ ?

Are the odds higher for a female to fet HIV if the male is HIV+?

What is the reasoning behind?

 

[plornive]

Sorry plornive, 100% wrong. Don't really have the time to go into it now, but every single thing you posted is in one way or another incorrect.

It got most of it from a doctor, except for my opinion that the pullout method "works". Now I'm confused. How far am I off? Please explain.

 

[thebabydoc]

Re: Re: Re: Re: had unprotected sex sooo scared!!!..!!??

Are you saying that is unlikely to get HIV for a male who boinks a chick who has HIV+ ?

Are the odds higher for a female to fet HIV if the male is HIV+?

What is the reasoning behind?

Simple actually. It is directly related to potential blood exposure. The risk is much higher for a female with an HIV+ male because the vagina has many surfaces which can, during the course of intercourse suffer microabrasions, increasing blood exposure to virus (in semen, in this example). Still doesn't even come close to anal intercourse, where there is a huge potential for exposure to the virus due to the fragile nature of the rectal mucosa.

 

[thebabydoc]

It got most of it from a doctor, except for my opinion that the pullout method "works". Now I'm confused. How far am I off? Please explain.

I personally continue to be amazed for how long withdrawal actually works. That is, of course, until it doesn't. Considering the chance of geting pregnant during one unprotected cycle is 20%, and that "only" 80% of couples will get pregnant within the first 12 months of actually trying, this goes a way in explaining why withdrawal is 80% effective.

Getting tested for STD's is not a "waste of time". In the male as well as the female, chlamydia is often asymptomatic and is a leading cause of infertility, pelvic inflammatory disease, and chronic pelvic pain in females. In fact, we screen ALL pregnant women for chlamydia and gonorrhea. If you have been exposed, that places you at high risk and therefore warrants testing.

While some HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) causes warts, some types cause cervical cancer. In fact, we use HPV testing to determine risks of developing cervical cancer and need for treatment with abnormal pap smears. True, there is no point in testing men for HPV- either you have the warts in which case you are contagious or you don't, in which case the risk of giving/getting it from someone else is low. Same for herpes. Except that women can have these infections IN their vaginas or on their cervix and guess what? Unless you're a gyno and brought your speculum and flashlight, you ain't gonna see them and the period during which most of these viruses are most easily spread is during the first period of infection when you don't yet know you have them.

HSV (Herpes Simplex Virus) is an easy blood test but tells little except that:
1. Most people have HSV I (oral) and
2. It can tell us if an exposure/infection with HSV II was recent or longstanding.

You are right in one thing, we prefer to use a swab- something called a Tzanck smear- to get a definitive diagnosis of herpes from a lesion. The main ideas of all these tests are to prevent further transmission by diagnosing, treating when possible, and education on how to prevent transmission.

People also forget syphilis. Usually the initial lesions are not noticed and it is often only blood testing that makes the diagnosis. This is also a standard test done on ALL pregnant patients.

And lastly, viruses like HPV and HIV are NOT cumulative. That is a total crock. It's like a coin toss, either you get it from the exposure or you don't. The only thing cumulative about it is that the more exposures, the higher your chances that you will have it after enough time. It doesn't "buid up;" the only thing that builds up is your odds. You could get it the first time, you could get it the 1000th time. That has to do with nothing more than a basic understanding of probability and statistics.

tbd

 

[doubles1]

i hooked up with her ON FRIDAY!!! and im going for a STD test tomorrow (WednesdaY) at 1130 should i be alrite to get tested?????


BABYDOC????

thanks

dnakduke

 

[thebabydoc]

Yeah, it should show up. All except for HIV but like I said before, it's all ok, the odds of HIV are very small and like they'll tell you (they are required by law to extensively counsel you on the HIV test BEFORE they do it) that you should repeat the HIV test in 3 months. Just go to the county clinic, it's usually free.