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Guys, if you are still searching for the perfect protein bar..

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..then STOP. Your search is over!

As with all products, NTBM puts out AMAZING protein bars....these guys are getting pretty popular, and for good reason....they are called BETTER PROTEIN BARS.

The name says it all!!!! They are high quality protein bars, 100% natural with no additives, preservatives, corn syrup, or sugar alcohol like most of the other bars on the market these days.. No gimmicks or sales tricks, just a fantastic new source of protein and nutrition that puts the power in your hands!!!!! :biggrin:

Better protein bars are not those bars that sit on the store shelves for years... they are bars that you make YOURSELF, when YOU are ready.... So not only are they 100% natural but they are 100% fresh, every time!! :)

And now with the fourth of july sale (ending july 5th) add in Happy4th for an extra 25% off your order PLUS free shipping... never been a better time to give these bad boys a test drive!!! :)

KILL THAT SH*T!! :biggrin::biggrin:
 
Never tried them before but I think I will be placing a big order with this sale going on and I'll add them to the lineup :)
 
I just started using them a few weeks ago and they are really something. they taste great, digest well and are not loaded with sugar. Right now there is a 25% off sale at NTBM as well....
 
I just started using them a few weeks ago and they are really something. they taste great, digest well and are not loaded with sugar. Right now there is a 25% off sale at NTBM as well....

Just bought two packs of them. :) Will tell you guys how they are
 
You act as if there's some sort of huge criteria for protein...

Way too much fat and sugar. Why is there 6 threads on the same product? That just screams "Not good enough to sell itself".

I'm not saying they're bad. I'm just saying they're nothing special and no better than what I can get at 7-11.
 
lol,

what's the difference between needto's better protein bars and George Spellwin's Raw Protein Bars? They seem painfully similar...except one you can buy on amazon and the other at ntbm?
 
You act as if there's some sort of huge criteria for protein...

Way too much fat and sugar. Why is there 6 threads on the same product? That just screams "Not good enough to sell itself".

I'm not saying they're bad. I'm just saying they're nothing special and no better than what I can get at 7-11.

wrong. very little sugar and fat.

the sugar in it is just from the honey but you know what? get fresh honey from the flea market and not the store brand and you will be good to go. and another thing, you don't have to use honey.

are the not same as 7-11 protein bars, why don't you go buy one from 7-11 and lets compare the ingredients and then you can tell me they are the same. not even close!

these YOU make yourself from scratch. 7-11 bars come packaged and processed with corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, soybean oil, and other crap that is making our nation fatter and fatter. so how are they the same as you claim?
 
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Yeah, let's not only compare ingredients but let's compare results as well
 
..then STOP. Your search is over!

As with all products, NTBM puts out AMAZING protein bars....these guys are getting pretty popular, and for good reason....they are called BETTER PROTEIN BARS.

The name says it all!!!! They are high quality protein bars, 100% natural with no additives, preservatives, corn syrup, or sugar alcohol like most of the other bars on the market these days.. No gimmicks or sales tricks, just a fantastic new source of protein and nutrition that puts the power in your hands!!!!! :biggrin:

Better protein bars are not those bars that sit on the store shelves for years... they are bars that you make YOURSELF, when YOU are ready.... So not only are they 100% natural but they are 100% fresh, every time!! :)

And now with the fourth of july sale (ending july 5th) add in Happy4th for an extra 25% off your order PLUS free shipping... never been a better time to give these bad boys a test drive!!! :)

KILL THAT SH*T!! :biggrin::biggrin:

They're loaded with everything Raisins,Nuts,Dates....ETC

You can't go wrong with these
 
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wrong. very little sugar and fat.

the sugar in it is just from the honey but you know what? get fresh honey from the flea market and not the store brand and you will be good to go. and another thing, you don't have to use honey.

are the not same as 7-11 protein bars, why don't you go buy one from 7-11 and lets compare the ingredients and then you can tell me they are the same. not even close!

these YOU make yourself from scratch. 7-11 bars come packaged and processed with corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, soybean oil, and other crap that is making our nation fatter and fatter. so how are they the same as you claim?
20g's of fat per piece isn't a lot?

Oh, and um, no. Amazon.com: Met-Rx Big 100 Meal Replacement Bar, Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough, 3.52-Ounce Bars (Pack of 12): Health & Personal Care

Psssst...your body can't tell the difference between corn sugar and cane sugar. Even if they did contain soybean hydrogenated oils, you act as if that is honestly the deciding factor. Give me a fucking break. If you follow a bodybuilding lifestyle, you could consume double the amount of that shit as the average American and still be just fine. Like I said, not good enough to sell itself. I might order some just to try them out, but stop acting like they're hot shit. It's a protein bar. Nothing special.


Yeah, let's not only compare ingredients but let's compare results as well
Oh, I bet. It's not about the training, the gear, the genetics, the sleep schedule, or the diet, it's about the fucking protein bar selection. Jesus Christ. :rolleyes:
 
Okay even my three year old nephew understands the concept of 'if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.' if you're el capitan of the S.S. BetterProteinBarsHater, then sail away in peace lol no one is saying you HAVE to try these, everyone is different, myself and other active posters on this forum are loyal to the NTBM product line, if you are antiNTBM then that's A-Ok. Wish you the best in your endeavors.
 
The bottom line is sugars i.e. carbs and protein balance is very important. I found that out first hand with reactive hypoglycemia. My nutritionist is supportive of these....

FYI-psizzle loves me but does not know it.
 
Better Protein Bars are high quality protein bars that are 100% natural, with no additives, preservatives, corn syrup, or sugar alcohol. There are no gimmicks or sales tricks; just a fantastic new source of protein and nutrition, that puts the power in your hands. Better Protein Bars are not bars that sit on the store shelves for years; they are bars that you make yourself, when you are ready.
 
20g's of fat per piece isn't a lot?

Oh, and um, no. Amazon.com: Met-Rx Big 100 Meal Replacement Bar, Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough, 3.52-Ounce Bars (Pack of 12): Health & Personal Care

Psssst...your body can't tell the difference between corn sugar and cane sugar. Even if they did contain soybean hydrogenated oils, you act as if that is honestly the deciding factor. Give me a fucking break. If you follow a bodybuilding lifestyle, you could consume double the amount of that shit as the average American and still be just fine. Like I said, not good enough to sell itself. I might order some just to try them out, but stop acting like they're hot shit. It's a protein bar. Nothing special.



Oh, I bet. It's not about the training, the gear, the genetics, the sleep schedule, or the diet, it's about the fucking protein bar selection. Jesus Christ. :rolleyes:
u are kidding right? these are made at home with all natural ingredients .. with no additives, preservatives corn syrup etc.. all that unnatural crap that is bad for your health has been eliminated.this is very important to many including me. not every thing comes down pounds and if it did these bar would be better also..

stuff like this might not be a big deal to u but yes alot of people here do care about their health.. please learn what u are saying before u come and hijack a thread with bullshit.. thanks
 
Okay even my three year old nephew understands the concept of 'if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.' if you're el capitan of the S.S. BetterProteinBarsHater, then sail away in peace lol no one is saying you HAVE to try these, everyone is different, myself and other active posters on this forum are loyal to the NTBM product line, if you are antiNTBM then that's A-Ok. Wish you the best in your endeavors.
This is a forum. I have the right to state my opinion, like it or not.

If you're the commander of their sales line, sail away in peace as well, nobody is forcing you to get me to buy them. It's simple marketing. Customers don't like being pestered like that, only to find out the product is nothing special.

alot of people here do care about their health..
On this forum especially. :rolleyes:

You're out of your fucking mind if you think soybean oil is more harmful than AAS. You know damn well that soybean oil is not the reason you're buying these bars. You're buying them because you feel some sort of obligation to, since all the other "popular" posters are buying them.
 
This is a forum. I have the right to state my opinion, like it or not.

If you're the commander of their sales line, sail away in peace as well, nobody is forcing you to get me to buy them. It's simple marketing. Customers don't like being pestered like that, only to find out the product is nothing special.


On this forum especially. :rolleyes:

You're out of your fucking mind if you think soybean oil is more harmful than AAS. You know damn well that soybean oil is not the reason you're buying these bars. You're buying them because you feel some sort of obligation to, since all the other "popular" posters are buying them.
lol! thanks this post made me laugh.. so buy these bars.. so u can be part of the in crowd!
btw this is the supps section not the steriod section..many people visit this section..choose never to use aas and do care about health benefits ..
 
What happened to the good ol days when needto himself would come regulate on idiots like this? I guess hes to busy selling protien bars n shit to give a fuk!
 
This is a forum. I have the right to state my opinion, like it or not.

If you're the commander of their sales line, sail away in peace as well, nobody is forcing you to get me to buy them. It's simple marketing. Customers don't like being pestered like that, only to find out the product is nothing special.


On this forum especially. :rolleyes:

You're out of your fucking mind if you think soybean oil is more harmful than AAS. You know damn well that soybean oil is not the reason you're buying these bars. You're buying them because you feel some sort of obligation to, since all the other "popular" posters are buying them.
ok bud.. i stil dont understand your posts.
product is nothing special.. like claimed?
where do u see in this thread someone claiming these protein bars will make u grow 21 inch biceps? or bench 500 pounds at the gym tomorrow? or have a six-pack stomach in a month? NOWHERE

they are claimed in here to
1) taste great!
2) be all natural
3)be on sale and priced well
4)be fresh because they are made at home

ALL ARE CORRECT..
these bars are exactly what posters in have claimed
try them if u dont believe.. ntbm has a full money back guarantee on products,if a customer isnt satified
 
What is it about my threads that always attract douche bags? Lmao

Hurricane, Steve, radar...whoever wants to be the closer for this thread be my guest lol
 
"You're buying them because you feel some sort of obligation to, since all the other "popular" posters are buying them."


No, actually I'm not. I got a package free as part of a promotion and you know what, they are hands down THE BEST FUCKING PROTEIN BARS I'VE EVER TASTED! I've eaten hundreds of flavors and brands as well. So yes, I WILL be buying more.

While I'm at it, I've probably used at least a dozen products from Needtobuildmuscle.com, and you know what.......EVERY fucking one of them worked/tasted as good or better than advertised!

So you know what OP? If you want to bash products and supplements you know nothing about, especially if you won't try them yourself backed by a 100% MONEY BACK GUARANTEE, then sit the fuck down son and quit pouring the Haterade!
 
What is it about my threads that always attract douche bags? Lmao

Hurricane, Steve, radar...whoever wants to be the closer for this thread be my guest lol

Not before I got to comment psizzle! Anyone who knows me knows I NEVER post like that, but I've had enough of this guys rants on products he's never tried first hand.
 
This is a forum. I have the right to state my opinion, like it or not.

If you're the commander of their sales line, sail away in peace as well, nobody is forcing you to get me to buy them. It's simple marketing. Customers don't like being pestered like that, only to find out the product is nothing special.


On this forum especially. :rolleyes:

You're out of your fucking mind if you think soybean oil is more harmful than AAS. You know damn well that soybean oil is not the reason you're buying these bars. You're buying them because you feel some sort of obligation to, since all the other "popular" posters are buying them.

This ain't chat. You can talk your shit in chat, but in every other area of these boards you will be respectful towards others. Those are the rules. Break them and you will get a timeout. Break them repeatedly and you will get banned.

You disagree? Fine. State your disagreement like a civilized, respectful adult in here. Don't do it like this.

I will be giving you an infraction now and if I see this kind of disrespect shown again, you will get a timeout. This is your only warning. All the other mods here, please let me know if this poster starts acting like this again.
 
vioxide my friend. you bought into the propaganda from the soy and corn industries hook line and sinker.

it DOES make a difference between sugar from fruit or honey vs. high fructose corn syrup. yes i've watched those corn syrup commercials too that claim that corn syrup is the same as any other sugar. FALSE. the corn industry is a billion dollar industry and they can put out commercials all they want but people like me are too smart to fall for it.

we have an obesity and diabetes epidemic and corn syrup and hydrogenated/soybean oils are the main factors as why. soy and corn are cheap and easy to grow.. its a massive industry.. and they need to keep pumping them into our foods, but you see over the past 10 years people are starting to figure it out. and they are reading labels and not buying things that contain those (CNN did a great story on them actually) and now the industry is panicking so they are putting out commercials to fool people into thinking corn syrup is okay.

i READ labels. i will not consume anything that has corn syrup or hydrogenated/soybean oils PERIOD.

if you go through my posts in the diet and even weightlifting sections you will see i've been talking about these ingredients since i joined this site. and I also have written articles on the dangers years ago before people even knew what corn syrup was
 
I am not sure what else to add here. I think we know that they are an great product produced by a company that takes quality and customer health very seriously. I would suggest trying them. I am sorry you are so angry bro...I think if you give things a chance you would be happy with the results. I only support what I know works. That is why I do not hang out at GNC anymore.
 

Metamyosyn V100 Protein Blend (Milk Protein Concentrate, Calcium Sodium Caseinate, Whey Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Concentrate, Dried Egg White, L-Glutamine), Corn Syrup, Brown Rice Syrup, Coated Chocolate Chips (Chips [Sugar, Chocolate Liquor, Cocoa Butter, Dextrose, Soy Lecithin, Salt, Artificial Flavor], Coating [Confectioner's Glaze, Gum Arabic, Corn Syrup]), Whey Crisps (Whey Protein Isolate, Rice Flour), High Fructose Corn Syrup, Water, Fructose, Canola Oil, Maltodextrin, Glycerin, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Potassium Chloride, Vitamin and Mineral Blend (Ascorbic Acid, Ferrous Fumarate, Tricalcium Phosphate, D-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate, Niacinamide, Zinc Oxide, Copper Gluconate, Calcium D-Pantothenate, Retinyl Palmitate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Biotin, Potassium Iodide, Cyanocobalamin), Sucralose

anyone who knows anything about nutrition wouldn't touch that garbage with a 10 foot pole. i highlighted the ingredients that are causing 12 year old kids to weigh 200 pounds and the average male weighing 40 pounds more than 40 years ago. the other ingredients heck I don't even know what they are.. Retinyl Palmitate? Pyridoxine hydrochloride? sounds like something i put in my pool. u seriously think that is the same as NTBM protein bars?
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now lets look at NTBM protein bars ingredients

whey protein, wheat germ, oatmeal, sliced almonds, cranberries, raisins, organic sour apple. and you add honey and peanut butter of your choice.

even a 5 year old will tell you which set of ingredients is healthier.
 
^^^ i couldn't care less about the chemical names for basic vitamins, we all know those crappy protein bars are just sugar and sweetener, there is no nutrional value to them. what about the ingredients i highlighted? you are 'used to them' so you won't change your ways.. seems pretty short sighted if you ask me. i might not know that Retinyl Palmitate is a vitamin but i damn well know that high fructose corn syrup is poison.
 
Who cares.. Obviously the homemade protein bars would be healthier.. Its like ordering pizza from pizza hut or make one yourself from scratch with whole wheat tortilla, fresh tomatoes and unprocessed meat.. I kinda agree with voxide, the advertisement is kinda too much, i never buy from companies who advertises too much, like muscletech, now im not saying the bars are bad or anything its probably great since everyone is buying them..
 
Who cares.. Obviously the homemade protein bars would be healthier.. Its like ordering pizza from pizza hut or make one yourself from scratch with whole wheat tortilla, fresh tomatoes and unprocessed meat.. I kinda agree with voxide, the advertisement is kinda too much, i never buy from companies who advertises too much, like muscletech, now im not saying the bars are bad or anything its probably great since everyone is buying them..

the problem is when a poster purposefully posts misleading things about a product.. I have a problem with that.

he was saying these bars are no different than bars you buy from 7-11 which is false and a flat out lie. I then posted the ingredients and his answer was "well i'm not gonna change because i'm used to them" and " i am appaled you do not know that Retinyl Palmitate is a vitamin"

this type of stuff adds nothing to the discussion.
 
I have said this in the past. I am not a big fan of any "protein bars". I never liked them TBH. I never cared much for candy bars either.

But I will say that needto's bars are the best tasting bars I've had. Maybe it's because I use high quality natural honey and natural almond butter? Not sure, but they taste better than any other bars I've had. Normally I take a bite out of a bar and can barely swallow the stuff. I will actually eat n2's bars, and my wife and son like them too. Hell, my wife likes them more than I do.
 
Believing whatever the media and FDA shove in your face may be your way of life, but it doesn't mean it's the right way.
 
the problem is when a poster purposefully posts misleading things about a product.. I have a problem with that.

he was saying these bars are no different than bars you buy from 7-11 which is false and a flat out lie. I then posted the ingredients and his answer was "well i'm not gonna change because i'm used to them" and " i am appaled you do not know that Retinyl Palmitate is a vitamin"

this type of stuff adds nothing to the discussion.

Then i agree with you, 7-11 bars are fuking garbage, tons of processed nasty stuff that you dont need to build muscle.. Im not really into protein bars, since i can cook all my meals in time.. Whole foods gives me more satisfaction than a shake or a protein bar for some reason..
 
Who cares.. Obviously the homemade protein bars would be healthier.. Its like ordering pizza from pizza hut or make one yourself from scratch with whole wheat tortilla, fresh tomatoes and unprocessed meat.. I kinda agree with voxide, the advertisement is kinda too much, i never buy from companies who advertises too much, like muscletech, now im not saying the bars are bad or anything its probably great since everyone is buying them..
yes healthier .. better tasting and better priced..all that was ever advertised here.. and imo more then enough of a reason to give these a shot over store bought protein bars

many of the threads made about these bars are actually not advertisment based threads.. they are threads made from happy customers that enjoy the product..if that turns you off then that certainly is your choice.. but that sure as hell will turn on alot more people, so u are in the minority.. u cant make everybody happy
 
Whole foods gives me more satisfaction than a shake or a protein bar for some reason..

bro i spend $700 a month on food FOR JUST ME so i am all for whole foods being the #1 thing, i do not disagree with you.

however if i am on the road its nice to have something healthy to eat like protein bars.. also on the way home from the gym i want something immediately to feed my starving muscles. this is where these bars come through.
 
bro i spend $700 a month on food FOR JUST ME so i am all for whole foods being the #1 thing, i do not disagree with you.

however if i am on the road its nice to have something healthy to eat like protein bars.. also on the way home from the gym i want something immediately to feed my starving muscles. this is where these bars come through.

Completely agree with you my friend, food is #1.. I was just talking about myslef, cause im not really on the run so i dont need these protein bars, BUT for most people who are busy and need something quick protein bars or shakes are an excellent choice like you stated..
 
I do not understand how this argument has even gone this far. Reading the labels tells the entire story. I have used nutritional bars my entire life and had the same issues of choking on the damn plastic things, the sugar spikes, etc etc. Needto's are a completely different breed. Bottom line..if I did not like them and did not believe in them you could not pay me enough to say anything about them...
 
This is a forum. I have the right to state my opinion, like it or not.

If you're the commander of their sales line, sail away in peace as well, nobody is forcing you to get me to buy them. It's simple marketing. Customers don't like being pestered like that, only to find out the product is nothing special.


On this forum especially. :rolleyes:

You're out of your fucking mind if you think soybean oil is more harmful than AAS. You know damn well that soybean oil is not the reason you're buying these bars. You're buying them because you feel some sort of obligation to, since all the other "popular" posters are buying them.


O really??
Lets talk more about this soy protein that is in the bar. All soy based protein bars and every single "pre packed protein bar" for that matter have one thing in common. They all contain an ingredent known as soy lecithin

What is soy lecithin?

In the early 1900***8217;s, the yet to be named ***8217;soy lecithin***8217; was just a waste product produced during the ***8220;degumming***8221; process of soybean oil. By 1908 the soy bean crushing and soy oil refining companies had expanded and they were having trouble disposing of the large amounts of foul smelling, fermenting waste product. Soy plants in Germany decided to name this waste product ***8217;soy lecithin***8217; and looked for ways to utilize it. By 1939 scientists had found more than 1,000 different ways to use soy lecithin.

It***8217;s important to note that solvents are used during the ***8220;degumming***8221; process of soybean oil, so soy lecithin itself is likely to contain chemical solvents

What is the name of the chemical used for the degumming process? Hexane!!!!!

Remember that name Hexane!!

The "natural" soy protein used in protein bars today is bathed in a toxic, explosive chemical solvent known as hexane. Hexane is used to process nearly all conventional soy protein ingredients and edible oils and is prohibited when processing organic foods like that found in Better protein bars.


Hexane is a neurotoxic chemical that poses serious occupational hazards to workers, is an environmental air pollutant, and can contaminate food."

All soy proteins isolate used to make protein bars are made using hexane baths.ALL OF THEM!!! If its in a protein bar, and its soy, it was given a hexane bath!!

Shocker: "Products such as Clif Bars with the label "made with organic oats and soybeans" are required by law to have 70% organic ingredients -- the remaining 30%, however, can legally be hexane extracted. They can also use up to 30% non organic ingredients of any kind and still legally be called organic.
Ya for more label laws and companies sticking it in your ass without you even knowing it!!!!!





Sounds yummy, doesn't it? So, if you're wondering why you rarely see "organic" soy protein bars, this is one of the reasons. Additionally, The soy protein in all protein bars typically comes from genetically modified plants. Even non-genetically modified raw materials may contain small amounts of GMO-parts, claims GMO-Compass.org, because a total separation of conventional and GM soybeans is technically impossible.

For the record hexane,is classified as a neurotoxin by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and a hazardous air pollutant by the Environmental Protection Agency.
 
O really??
Lets talk more about this soy protein that is in the bar. All soy based protein bars and every single "pre packed protein bar" for that matter have one thing in common. They all contain an ingredent known as soy lecithin

What is soy lecithin?

In the early 1900***8217;s, the yet to be named ***8217;soy lecithin***8217; was just a waste product produced during the ***8220;degumming***8221; process of soybean oil. By 1908 the soy bean crushing and soy oil refining companies had expanded and they were having trouble disposing of the large amounts of foul smelling, fermenting waste product. Soy plants in Germany decided to name this waste product ***8217;soy lecithin***8217; and looked for ways to utilize it. By 1939 scientists had found more than 1,000 different ways to use soy lecithin.

It***8217;s important to note that solvents are used during the ***8220;degumming***8221; process of soybean oil, so soy lecithin itself is likely to contain chemical solvents

What is the name of the chemical used for the degumming process? Hexane!!!!!

Remember that name Hexane!!

The "natural" soy protein used in protein bars today is bathed in a toxic, explosive chemical solvent known as hexane. Hexane is used to process nearly all conventional soy protein ingredients and edible oils and is prohibited when processing organic foods like that found in Better protein bars.


Hexane is a neurotoxic chemical that poses serious occupational hazards to workers, is an environmental air pollutant, and can contaminate food."

All soy proteins isolate used to make protein bars are made using hexane baths.ALL OF THEM!!! If its in a protein bar, and its soy, it was given a hexane bath!!

Shocker: "Products such as Clif Bars with the label "made with organic oats and soybeans" are required by law to have 70% organic ingredients -- the remaining 30%, however, can legally be hexane extracted. They can also use up to 30% non organic ingredients of any kind and still legally be called organic.
Ya for more label laws and companies sticking it in your ass without you even knowing it!!!!!





Sounds yummy, doesn't it? So, if you're wondering why you rarely see "organic" soy protein bars, this is one of the reasons. Additionally, The soy protein in all protein bars typically comes from genetically modified plants. Even non-genetically modified raw materials may contain small amounts of GMO-parts, claims GMO-Compass.org, because a total separation of conventional and GM soybeans is technically impossible.

For the record hexane,is classified as a neurotoxin by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and a hazardous air pollutant by the Environmental Protection Agency.

Pwned!

Hey breh, how long is this sale going on for and what's the discount code? I've been looking for a good bar without all that added crap and this thread definitely sold me on them, can't wait to try them.
 
I don't think the bars are "on sale" right now, but ceo15 will get you a 15% discount on anything at the ntbm store bro.

There was a 25% off sale on everything over the 4th weekend, but that ended at 11:59pm on the 4th. :)

If you are planning on ordering anything else, I have a 25% off code, good for a one time use only, but it only works for certain items (about 20 different items they carry). PM me for details.
 
You act as if there's some sort of huge criteria for protein...

Way too much fat and sugar. Why is there 6 threads on the same product? That just screams "Not good enough to sell itself".

I'm not saying they're bad. I'm just saying they're nothing special and no better than what I can get at 7-11.
lolololololololololo
good humor
 
You act as if there's some sort of huge criteria for protein...

Yes in fact there is. Like the fact that protein in all bars on the shelf at the store is worthless. WHY? OK I will use one of the most popular bars out there to prove my point.


First lets talk about label laws and how the bars you think are so great use them to fool you.


ingredients:
blah blah's Protein Blend (Soy Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate, Milk Protein Isolate), Fruit Blend (Fruit Juice, Natural Grain Dextrin), Whole Grain Rolled Oats, Water Canola Oil, Marshmallow Filling (Sugar, Rice Flour, Wheat Starch, Corn Starch, Titanium Dioxide and Lecithin), Almonds, Graham Crumbs, Honey, Chocolate Chips, Vegetable Glycerine, Coco Processed with Alkali, Natural and artificial flavors. Contains 2% Or Less Of The Following: Plum Puree, Lecithin, Monoglycerides, Organic Soy Butter, Citric Acid, Caclum Propionate, Potassium Sorbate, Salt, And Sucralose.

So what does this mean, Protein Blend (Soy Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate, Milk Protein Isolate), And why is the rest set between the two ( ) anyway? Ok this is how it works. Label laws say you must print ingredients from most to least. It also says if its a protein of any kind you can lump it in with all the other proteins and slap it between the two ( ) after the words Protein blend.. Still with in the two ( ) you must print the types of protein them self from most to least.

This works out great for the Manufacturer for a few reasons. 1 Is the fact that if they put a crap load of soy protein in it and a tiny tiny bit of others kinds. They can still list ALL the proteins as first on the list and what they have the most of. because together they all add up to what the bars has the most of. Split them all up and you might see soy protein listed as the 3rd on the list of ingredients and Whey Protein Isolate last on the list, or close to it..

What is even worse is the fact that if they wanted to. They can use 5 grams of Whey protein Isolate 3 grams of soy protein isolate , 4 grams of milk protein concentrate, 3 grams of whey protein concentrate, 3 grams soy protein concentrate, and then slap a label on the bar that starts with this

Blah blah's protein blend (Whey protein Isolate, milk protein concentrate,whey protein concentrate,soy protein isolate, soy protein concentrate). Wow that sure looks like a lot of protein and because of the amounts used they can list the best proteins first and the worst last but collectively the crappy proteins still make up more of the protein in the bar then the others??? Ain't label laws outstanding? Well the protein bar companies think so and they use every opportunity to use them to their advantage.


See what I am getting at? Do not be fooled by The label of a protein bar. It does not mean the bar has a ton of these 3 types of protein in it. And being as soy protein is the cheapest and its comes first on the list of proteins you can be pretty sure the (blend) is mostly soy protein. I would say about 80% but it could be has high as even 98% who the hell knows. For all we know to Voxide3's standard of a great protein bar could have 19 grams of soy protein and 1 gram of the other two kinds. They do not have to tell you how much of each kind is in the bar!!!!!!!!


The second thing is that the protein in the bars you are trying to defend are mostly filled with sdenature protein and also crap loads of soy protein too.


The protein in these bars is exposed to extremely high temperatures during manufacturing of the raw ingredients and again in the manufacturing of the bar itself. High heat exposure can denature proteins, which can severely limit your body***8217;s ability to assimilate the amino acids completely into your muscle tissue. What does this mean? Basically when you see a bar that says it has 30g of protein, the probability is very high that little of it will make it where it***8217;s supposed to ***8230; your muscles ***8230; making the protein content of these bars is virtually worthless or pretty damn close to worthless.

Denatured protein? Denaturing occurs when the normal structure of the protein molecules are broken down into an abnormal structure as a result of heat or acid processing for the purposes of pasteurizing the protein for protein bars. This denatured protein can be much more difficult to absorb than non-denatured protein. In contras Cooked protein is useless, what I mean is that the molecular structure of the protein has been destroyed. When heated, the amino acid chains of the protein fuse together.

Our bodies do not have the ability to fully breakdown the protein once the chains have been melded together via heat. The protein is now not only useless, it has become extremely toxic to the body. Consumption of cooked protein is linked to kidney failure, allergies, and even arthritis.

That's why eating food in its whole, raw state is the absolute best way to get your protein. Not only will you be receiving adequate protein, you will be eating protein that can be fully broken down into its amino acid chains and easily used by the body



O and did I mention that Needtobuildmuscle better protein bars are a no bake protein bar!!!!! You simple have a bag of uncooked non Denatured dry ingredients that you then mix together with wet ingredients. Set in the fridge and boom 30 mins later you have 100% natural non cooked raw protein bars!!! let me say that again!!

Needtobuildmuscle better protein bars are all natural, organic, un Denatured . The better protein bars a RAW!!!!! and unadulterated . I would go as fat to say that they are 1 of the only protein bars on the market today that have a usable source of protein in them at all.


Let us explain feather why a RAW protein bar that can only be achieved by making your own protein bars fresh with a no bake recipe (like the one found in needtobuildmuscle better protein bars) is the only way one should eat a protein bar at all.


The worst damage you can do to A protein is by heat and extraction methods and of course the pasteurization and chemical processing process used to fuze 99.99% of today protein bars.

This causes destruction of the bonds between pairs and trios of amino acids. The unique chemical shapes these bonds create, are acid profile keys that fit the enzyme locks in your body to switch on protein functions. Without the keys to open the doors of the cells, you can throw all the denatured proteins you like at your muscles, but hardly any gets retained.


The protein in almost every pre packed protein bar on the market today is worthless. because the protein in them lack the chemical keys that fit your bodies locks.

The unique chemical shapes created by RAW undenature proteins are the keys to optimum protein metabolism. Your body recognises and absorbs this raw protein by a special pathway that cannot be used by denature proteins .


As for what you were saying about soy!!!!!!!!!!!!! I addressed it in my post before this one.




Way too much fat and sugar. Why is there 6 threads on the same product? That just screams "Not good enough to sell itself".


Way to much fat? or sugar? how do you know how much sugar they have and for the record the recipes can be ajusted if you like low sugar then use agave or low carb syrups to make them and not honey. HOwever

he bars are high in fat ( when using the original recipes on the bags) 98% of these fats come from natural sources and they are EFA's (essential fatty acids)otherwise known as omega 3,6, and 9 fatty acids.

They are essential because your body cannot produce them on its own so they must come from your diet. The two primary EFAs are known as linoleic acid (omega-6) and alpha-linolenic acid (omega-3).
And the better protein bar orginal recipes have a good healthy amount of them in the bars.

These EFAs are necessary for the following processes:
1.Formation of healthy cell membranes
2.Proper development and functioning of the brain and nervous system
3.Proper thyroid and adrenal activity
4.Hormone production
5.Regulation of blood pressure, liver function, immune and inflammatory responses
6.Crucial for the transport and breakdown of cholesterol!!!!!!!!!!
7.Support healthy skin and hair

So I would beg to differ with anyone claiming the nutritional Brake down of these bars are AAAAH "crap" as some one called it lmao

As stated above the better protein bars are 100% all natural and 98% all organic ingredents are used as well. Even the flavors used like the apple and banana bars are made with 100% all natural all organic freeze dried fruit powders!!!! The bars Are high in good fats and with the original they also have a good amount of ( healthy natural carbohydrates). which btw is also not taboo or a bad thing ether.

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There is nothing what so ever that is "unhealthy" in the better protein bars. All natural all organic no addatives or worthless cant read ingredients like every other protein bar out there right now.

To put the cherry on the cake after you buy the bars, the honey, and the peanut butter the price is still 1/3rd what it cost to buy the avg protein bar and the better protein bars have twice the amount of protein as the standard!!!! Use our "power butter" to make the better protein bars and the bars end up having 5 times the industry standard of protein in them.




I'm not saying they're bad. I'm just saying they're nothing special and no better than what I can get at 7-11.


How about you post up the ingredients in what you think is a great bar that you can get at 7-11 and I will rip it to fucking shreds...



O thats right you cant because ya got banned for being a rude little prick to people... O well maybe next time. Peace
 
20g's of fat per piece isn't a lot?

Oh, and um, no. Amazon.com: Met-Rx Big 100 Meal Replacement Bar, Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough, 3.52-Ounce Bars (Pack of 12): Health & Personal Care

Psssst...your body can't tell the difference between corn sugar and cane sugar.
Even if they did contain soybean hydrogenated oils, you act as if that is honestly the deciding factor. Give me a fucking break. If you follow a bodybuilding lifestyle, you could consume double the amount of that shit as the average American and still be just fine. Like I said, not good enough to sell itself. I might order some just to try them out, but stop acting like they're hot shit. It's a protein bar. Nothing special.



Oh, I bet. It's not about the training, the gear, the genetics, the sleep schedule, or the diet, it's about the fucking protein bar selection. Jesus Christ. :rolleyes:

PSSSSST you don't know your ass from your elbow bro. PSSSST the better protein bars don't have cain sugar they have all natural sugar from nature that comes from honey if that is what you choice to make them with..

PSSSSTTT Corn sugar is bad for you. Just because they renamed it from high fructos corn syrup to "corn sugar" does not make it any less shitty then it used to be.

I can can hear it now, parents telling other parents: "What, you feed your kids normal sugar? We only let our kid eat sweets sweetened with corn sugar."


Or cereal companies will proudly display: This cereal is made with 100% pure corn sugar. Seriously, the brand cache -- because it has a vegetable in the name, and because it has the word "sugar" -- will be huge

Read more: Renaming High Fructose Corn Syrup As "Corn Sugar" Is A Genius Branding Move


But uts still high fructose corn syrup like it has always been and you fell for it hook line and sinker!!!

Just like every other avg consumer is prob going to. KId I was a chef for 13+ years a dietary aid and a cook in the army for 4 years I have a published cook book and have been studding the subjects of food, label laws and topics around them my whole life.. You really want to go toe to toe with me on this one? Lets do it I will un ban you now because I do feel like moping the floor with your ass.

OK your are un banned please come tango with me bro. I cant wait for this.



Back to your so called healthy corn sugar ( UMMM really high fructose corn syrup renamed to sound health that is!!) God people will fall for anything in a tv commercial lmao


For one you are trying to say corn sugar (aka high fructose corn syrup is the same as natural sugar from cain or even 1/1th as good for you as natural honey sugar// Then you say the better protein bars have to much fat lmao..

OK lets educate you some more and kill two birds with one stone. In order to appreciate just how damaging high fructose corn syrup is to your body, it is crucial to have a basic understanding of how different types of carbohydrates are metabolized. Glucose is the basic fuel for living organisms, and is the primary energy source for your brain. It is a product of photosynthesis and is found in rice, corn and other grains, and bread and pasta. Once you take in glucose from a meal, 80 percent of it is used by all of the organs of your body - every single cell. The remaining 20 percent goes to your liver to be metabolized and stored.

The 20 percent that reaches the liver is converted into glycogen to be stored in the liver. Glycogen is your body’s nontoxic short-term energy storage package, where it can be easily converted to energy when you need it. Your liver has no limit to how much glycogen it can store without detrimental effects. (That is what athletes take advantage of when they “carboload.”) A small amount of pyruvate (for energy) and citrate (as VLDL) is produced. Insulin is produced to process the glucose from the blood stream into the cells. When you consume 120 calories of glucose, less than one calorie contributes to adverse metabolic outcomes.

Ethanol, or ethyl alcohol, (caused when sugar ferments) is the favourite carbohydrate of many. But it is also a carbohydrate that undergoes a very different metabolic process, leaving in its wake a trail of toxins a mile long. Ethanol is an acute central nervous system toxin and must be metabolized almost completely in the liver. But the metabolic process in the liver is quite different from that of glucose. It produces free radicals that damage proteins of the liver, converts to bad cholesterol VLDL, liver inflammation, cirrhosis, fatty liver disease, insulin resistance (which leads to Type 2 diabetes). After a 120-calorie intake of ethanol, a large fraction (about 40 calories) can contribute to disease.

In nearly every way, fructose is metabolized the same way as ethanol, creating the same toxins in your body. When you consume fructose, one hundred percent of it goes directly to your liver to be metabolized. It overloads the liver. It depletes your liver cells of phosphates, produces uric acid which in turn raises blood pressure, produces high cholesterol (bad type), converts into fat cells (belly fat), causes insulin resistance (which leads to Type 2 diabetes) and fatty liver disease, Fructose metabolism is similar to a dose of ethanol (alcohol), a 120-calorie intake of fructose results in a large fraction (again, about 40 calories) that directly contributes to disease.

The point to take away is: consuming fructose is consuming fat. Fructose is not really a carbohydrate - a high fructose diet is a HIGH FAT diet. A high fat diet that creates a vicious cycle of consumption that won’t turn itself off.

You can see by comparing the metabolism of fructose with the metabolism of ethanol that they are very similar. In fact, when you compare the metabolism of 150 calories of soda with 150 calories of beer (a 500ml can of each), about 90 calories reach the liver in either case. Fructose causes most of the same toxic effects as ethanol because both come from sugar fermentation.

Two other studies were done using medical students, both looking at biological responses to fructose loading. In the first, the students were given either a large glucose load or a large fructose load. In the students given fructose, almost 30 percent of the calories ended up as fat. In the students given glucose, almost none ended up as fat. In the second study, medical students were given a high fructose diet for 6 days. In just that short time, their insulin resistance and triglycerides doubled!


BUT WAIT I AM NOT DONE YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I am sure you still think you're smarter then the rest of us so I need to keep pounding you with facts of how little you really do know. YAAAA
 
Your body can tell the difference between corn sugar ( aka high fructose crap um I mean crap sugar)

We normally have pathways in our brains that regulate when we stop eating. Fructose undermines these normal satiety signals, increasing caloric consumption both directly and indirectly. Fructose does not stimulate a leptin rise, so your satiety signals are diminished. Glucose suppresses the hunger hormone— it makes you want more food, but fructose does not.

Dr. Richard Johnson, is a professor of medicine at the University of Colorado where he runs the kidney other healthrelated problems has proven how uric acid in your blood can wreak havoc on your blood pressure, insulin production and even kidney function. He didn’t start by looking at fructose however. It began when he realized that uric acid is a major component of obesity, high blood pressure and kidney disease.

In fact, he discovered that newly diagnosed adolescents with high blood pressure had elevated uric acid levels 90 percent of the time. And by lowering uric acid in these obese, hypertensive adolescents, he was able to normalize blood pressure in 87 percent of all cases. It’s been known that meats and purine rich foods can raise uric acid, but it turns out that one of the most potent ways to raise uric acid is via fructose!

You probably already know that fructose is a sugar, but remember that it’s distinctly different from other sugars as it’s metabolized through very specific pathways that differ from those of glucose, which generates uric acid. In fact, fructose typically generates uric acid within minutes of ingestion.

But let’s take a step back and look at what uric acid is, and how it’s linked to fructose consumption.
 
High fructose corn syrup has become a common staple in the modern
diet. It has become the standard filler for food manufacturers
because it makes foods taste sweeter and preserves them for a
longer shelf life. This cheap ingredient is hidden in the long list
of ingredients of many popular food brands; and consumers have been
taking large amounts of corn syrup completely unaware of health
ramifications.

Many people assume that because corn syrup is derivative of corn,
that it is safe and natural. This is not the case. High fructose
corn syrup is a synthetic liquid derived from corn starch.

The most immediate danger high fructose corn syrup poses is fat
gain; and over a long period of regular consumption, obesity. A
February 2010 Princeton study using rats showed that subjects
with access to high fructose corn syrup gained significantly
more fat than rats with access to table sugar. The documents of
the study quote: "In addition to causing significant gain in
lab animals, long-term consumption of high-fructose corn syrup
also led to abnormal increases in body fat, especially in the
abdomen, and a rise in circulating blood fats called
triglycerides."

According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, the
40 years since the introduction of high-fructose corn syrup in the
United States has seen a sharp upward spike in the rates of obesity.
Aside from obesity, the Princeton study mentions that high fructose
corn syrup also spiked triglyceride levels; also known as bad
cholesterol. This means that sugary sweet snacks packed with high
fructose corn syrup puts consumers in danger of heart disease,
hypertension, and stroke.

Recently, corn syrup producers, in an attempt to rehabilitate the
negative image surrounding corn syrup have started using the term
corn sugar when referring to high fructose corn syrup; hoping to
convince label conscious shoppers that they are consuming products
made with natural sugar. Corn sugar, despite the more wholesome
name, poses all the same health risk as the formerly named high
fructose corn syrup.

The scariest side effects of high fructose corn syrup may the
ones science and health researchers have not yet discovered.
Protect yourself by avoiding high fructose corn syrup /corn
sugar consumption.


Note my writing ^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Im just waiting for some ntbm ketchup to come out, i cant for the life of me find any without the corn sugar ;)
 
wrong. very little sugar and fat.

the sugar in it is just from the honey but you know what? get fresh honey from the flea market and not the store brand and you will be good to go. and another thing, you don't have to use honey.

are the not same as 7-11 protein bars, why don't you go buy one from 7-11 and lets compare the ingredients and then you can tell me they are the same. not even close!

these YOU make yourself from scratch. 7-11 bars come packaged and processed with corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, soybean oil, and other crap that is making our nation fatter and fatter. so how are they the same as you claim?

There truly is ZERO comparison!

One of the MANY things I love about these bars is the flavor. Even with the subtraction of all these cheap inferior ingredients like corn syrup etc, these bars are literally a taste explosion with ever bite. They quickly disappear from my fridge, and everything from the bar's density and dried fruit pieces to protein content is just untouchable by anything pre-packaged on the market I have ever seen. As far as making the bars, you can even use power butter and boost the protein and essential fatty acid content easily.

Geez, I'm making myself hungry! I can't wait to try more flavors, expand my horizons.
 
I was waiting on needto to show up lol. Sh!t always gets real haha

AND IT'S ALWAYS MY THREADS lmao
 
I hit you up with a free week plat bro. Always good to have members like you around man. We need more like you :)

Thanks a lot!! The new features are pretty sweet and I want to buy a lifetime platinum cause this forum is awesome. Im just a bit tight on the bank right now with all the supps I've bought from you lol. This forum has been probably the most informative place when it comes to my health, you guys are great.
 
mmmmmm every time a read one of these threads about the bars it makes me wanna go to the fridge and grab one! LOVE em!
 
PSSSSST you don't know your ass from your elbow bro. PSSSST the better protein bars don't have cain sugar they have all natural sugar from nature that comes from honey if that is what you choice to make them with..

PSSSSTTT Corn sugar is bad for you. Just because they renamed it from high fructos corn syrup to "corn sugar" does not make it any less shitty then it used to be.

I can can hear it now, parents telling other parents: "What, you feed your kids normal sugar? We only let our kid eat sweets sweetened with corn sugar."


Or cereal companies will proudly display: This cereal is made with 100% pure corn sugar. Seriously, the brand cache -- because it has a vegetable in the name, and because it has the word "sugar" -- will be huge

Read more: Renaming High Fructose Corn Syrup As "Corn Sugar" Is A Genius Branding Move


But uts still high fructose corn syrup like it has always been and you fell for it hook line and sinker!!!
Just like every other avg consumer is prob going to. KId I was a chef for 13+ years a dietary aid and a cook in the army for 4 years I have a published cook book and have been studding the subjects of food, label laws and topics around them my whole life.. You really want to go toe to toe with me on this one? Lets do it I will un ban you now because I do feel like moping the floor with your ass.

OK your are un banned please come tango with me bro. I cant wait for this.



Back to your so called healthy corn sugar ( UMMM really high fructose corn syrup renamed to sound health that is!!) God people will fall for anything in a tv commercial lmao

For one you are trying to say corn sugar (aka high fructose corn syrup is the same as natural sugar from cain or even 1/1th as good for you as natural honey sugar// Then you say the better protein bars have to much fat lmao..

OK lets educate you some more and kill two birds with one stone. In order to appreciate just how damaging high fructose corn syrup is to your body, it is crucial to have a basic understanding of how different types of carbohydrates are metabolized. Glucose is the basic fuel for living organisms, and is the primary energy source for your brain. It is a product of photosynthesis and is found in rice, corn and other grains, and bread and pasta. Once you take in glucose from a meal, 80 percent of it is used by all of the organs of your body - every single cell. The remaining 20 percent goes to your liver to be metabolized and stored.

The 20 percent that reaches the liver is converted into glycogen to be stored in the liver. Glycogen is your body’s nontoxic short-term energy storage package, where it can be easily converted to energy when you need it. Your liver has no limit to how much glycogen it can store without detrimental effects. (That is what athletes take advantage of when they “carboload.”) A small amount of pyruvate (for energy) and citrate (as VLDL) is produced. Insulin is produced to process the glucose from the blood stream into the cells. When you consume 120 calories of glucose, less than one calorie contributes to adverse metabolic outcomes.

Ethanol, or ethyl alcohol, (caused when sugar ferments) is the favourite carbohydrate of many. But it is also a carbohydrate that undergoes a very different metabolic process, leaving in its wake a trail of toxins a mile long. Ethanol is an acute central nervous system toxin and must be metabolized almost completely in the liver. But the metabolic process in the liver is quite different from that of glucose. It produces free radicals that damage proteins of the liver, converts to bad cholesterol VLDL, liver inflammation, cirrhosis, fatty liver disease, insulin resistance (which leads to Type 2 diabetes). After a 120-calorie intake of ethanol, a large fraction (about 40 calories) can contribute to disease.

In nearly every way, fructose is metabolized the same way as ethanol, creating the same toxins in your body. When you consume fructose, one hundred percent of it goes directly to your liver to be metabolized. It overloads the liver. It depletes your liver cells of phosphates, produces uric acid which in turn raises blood pressure, produces high cholesterol (bad type), converts into fat cells (belly fat), causes insulin resistance (which leads to Type 2 diabetes) and fatty liver disease, Fructose metabolism is similar to a dose of ethanol (alcohol), a 120-calorie intake of fructose results in a large fraction (again, about 40 calories) that directly contributes to disease.

The point to take away is: consuming fructose is consuming fat. Fructose is not really a carbohydrate - a high fructose diet is a HIGH FAT diet. A high fat diet that creates a vicious cycle of consumption that won’t turn itself off.

You can see by comparing the metabolism of fructose with the metabolism of ethanol that they are very similar. In fact, when you compare the metabolism of 150 calories of soda with 150 calories of beer (a 500ml can of each), about 90 calories reach the liver in either case. Fructose causes most of the same toxic effects as ethanol because both come from sugar fermentation.

Two other studies were done using medical students, both looking at biological responses to fructose loading. In the first, the students were given either a large glucose load or a large fructose load. In the students given fructose, almost 30 percent of the calories ended up as fat. In the students given glucose, almost none ended up as fat. In the second study, medical students were given a high fructose diet for 6 days. In just that short time, their insulin resistance and triglycerides doubled!


BUT WAIT I AM NOT DONE YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I am sure you still think you're smarter then the rest of us so I need to keep pounding you with facts of how little you really do know. YAAAA

Very informative. I was wondering though, in terms of carb loading the night before running a long distance race, does that mean that fruit should be avoided in or around that meal? Or just in general. I have been training for a race in September (half marathon), and have been including some fruit in my diet again. Pineapple, blueberries and apples to be precise. I only eat it in the morning after a run.
 
Nice to see this thread is still alive and well...lol

I think I'm gonna place my order for some better bars tomorrow, stoked as hell about it!
 
Amazing. A few guys at the gym are gonna order some after I let them try some of mine. Haha

That was the last ntbm business card I had too :(

Sorry, but I don't share my protein bars, ok only with close, close, close family members..lol
 
Sorry, but I don't share my protein bars, ok only with close, close, close family members..lol

Haha, I gave them little pieces. There's no way I would give them a whole bar. And they were about twice my size, so if they really wanted any, they could just take em.....
 
My chocolate raspberry and green apple came in this morning....gonna make my first batches tonight :)
 
I've made the choc-banana and the peanut butters, both batches GONE! Now, the last ones up, Sour Apple! It will be my first time trying them, I am excited. Mmmmmmm :)
The green apple bars are AWESOME with sugar free caramel syrup.
 
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