i aint mule but, are you dropping it towards your face or on your belly? The low groove is perfect for denim, try touching light weights with the shirt high and as you go up in weight start pulling it down. The cut shirt should allow you to get the shirt lower but sometimes it puts the collar in an odd postion(if you got an open back from Karin the collar would be cut a little lower) . Are you wetting the shirt at all ?