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Good routine for gaining muscle size?

Becky

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Hi all,

I am interested in gaining as much muscle size as possible -- to go from do you work out? to where do you work out???:D

Right now I'm lifting 4 days a week M, W, F & Sat. one body part a week, usually 3 to 4 exercises per body part , 2 sets to failure for the first to exercises then 1 set to failure for the other 1 or 2 exerciese.

If I really want to gain muscle size, I don't care about strength but I know they go hand and hand, what would be a good routine.

Be as specific as possible(sets reps exerciese), I need the help:confused:
 
Supps? .... meaning creatine and aside from a high protein diet, what else? I've seen Glutamine written before but am not sure what it does.

I eat a lot. The problem with that is I gain size, but also a bit of fat. I don't eat good CLEAN foods. I want to get bigger without AS to the best of my ability and still notice quick results but would love to speed it up even more.

Current stats are 16% @ 141lbs. 5'6 In early Feb. I was 132lbs. @ about 14%
 
Hi Becky,

Tell us more about your stats? How much do you wiegh and what is your bodyfat level?

Do you keep a training journal? If not then start one now. Make very careful notes of everything you do at each workout. Be VERY specific. No one can tell you the best workout for you. We can give suggestions but after time passes your journal will tell you what works for YOU and what doesnt. The one you mention that you use now sounds oke. Just note down how it works for you in your journal and make changes as you need.

Are you making any gains now with your workout? strengh/size?

You must eat big to get big. You must overeat everyday. Usually it is easier to drink a lot of calories everyday then eat them all. To gain muscle try to eat 1.5 grams of good proteins (egg whites, fish, chicken/beef) for each pound of you lbm every day. You will gain fat, dont let that disturb you. A gain rate of 1 pound of muscle to 1pound of fat is a good one. Ex. 10 pound gained, 5 fat and 5 muscle.

Supplements: creatine is good for some strengh and muscle gains. cycle it.
Tribex-500 is good for increasing your bodys production of Testosterone. I have used it and it certainly worked for me and i have used a lot of AAS over the years. No bad side effects and great for the sex drive too!

Remember to really eat a lot of calories every day.
 
Magdelana

Hey there and thanks for the help! My current stats are 5'7 125lbs 18% bf. I have a very hard time gainning muscle size. I have a long lean look that I'm sure alot of women would like to have, but I really want to pack on some muscle.

So you think the routine I am doing now looks okey? That's one thing I worry about is over vs. undertraining. So hitting each muscle group a week is enough as long as you hit it hard. I had been trying to train each 2x a week with upwards of 5 sets per exercise (like some of the routines in the mags) but I wasn't seeing any thing. Now I've gone to 2 sets to failure with more weight and doing those extra 2 to 3 reps after each set (waiting 10 secs to recover) like someone on here had suggested. I guess it is to eairly to tell the results. How often should I measure my progress? Just on the scale? I am also keeping a journal now.

What about you, what are your stats now?

I am trying muslcemilk as a supplement now. Heard of it? It taste great. How many meals do you eat a day (including supps).

How do you balance your cardio and weight training?

Yeah, by reading the post I can tell alot of the girls on here use AS. So you've used with no sides. I like the part about the great sex too!!! I am thinking about it. I'm not sure where I would get them though.

Tell me more about the tribex stuff. How do you know it works? Simular to AS? Have you tried on of the pro-hormones?

Oh, how do you keep track of your proteen/carb intake?



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Hi Becky,

I think you could do each of the larger muscle groups (legs, chest & back) 2X per week, then arms 1X per week without risking overtraining. This is what a friend of mine does who is a Master-degreed exercise physiologist & also an 'ectomorph' (long lean look, has trouble building up muscle). Just alternate heavy & moderate sessions.

Take your resting heart rate & monitor it at least a few times a week, if not everyday. Chronically elevated resting HR is a sign of overtraining. Also if you become frustrated, generally 'burned out' feeling, & just don't want to train, always feeling run-down with little energy, you might be overtraining. If you feel OK, you're recovering OK, & getting stronger, then you don't have to be concerned that you are overtraining.

Just stuff that pie hole! :) I think a lot of ladies, & even some of the men around here, underestimate caloric intake. I've cut bodyfat on 1,900 even though ppl were saying to eat 1,400. If you do gain too much fat, you can always reduce cals & get it back off, but don't underestimate how much to eat if you really want to gain LBM.
 
Hi Becky, sorry i just see your post. I am never awake so early in the morning as you. :D

When i say your routine now looks oke i mean it is a good place to start. Gladiola mentions that you might work each major body part twice per week and this a standard practice. It is true that smaller muscles generaly take a bit longer to overcompensate (get stronger/bigger).

When you were trianing each bodypart 2X weekly, how much protein did you eat everyday? Your requriments would be higher training more often. Based on your stats your LBM is about 103 pounds. It is often said to eat 1.5 grams per LBM pound. Were you eating 150+ grams each day of high quality protein? (eggs, fish, lean meat).

Also, the amount of sleep each night is a improtant part here. Were you resting enough EVERY night? Not resting well will of course cause longer overcompenstion periods.

IF your answer to both these area is yes then maybe training each muscle once a week is right for you, but i think maybe you were not eating enought good protein. It really does make a difference. Sleep enough and eat enough protein and you may be ready to hit each muscle every 5 days. Little muscles like biceps probably would still need 6-7.

I am 6 feet and wiegh 202 pounds right now. I am about 16% bf now (yes i know, i am huge) This is about 16 years of iron lifting to get this size however.

From AAS i have some sides and some of them are perment. I have menioned before that i now have a voice like Kathleen Turner (an actress with a deeper voice) and before it was just normal women voice. Doesnt sound freaky, or "electronic" just sort of deeper (phone sex voice men tell me). I have a bit of a "happy trail" from the navel to groin. It is not much and i usually do not bother with it. I have a bit of a "unibrow" now i must pluck often. Also my clitoris is bigger then before, but still looks normal, just a little bigger then when i was younger. So everything still looks/sounds normal, just different then before. AAS abuse can certainly cause perment changes that do not look normal.

I eat about 6 times a day (so should you to gain!). I eat about 320 grams of protein per day and about 4500-5000 calories each day. My diet is basically just the same every day so i do not have to track my eating to know how much protein/carb/fat i eat each day.

Write out a high cal diet for yourself with enough protein, but preferably no more then 25% calories from fats. Build in some different meals to keep off boredom. Vary it. Remember on workout and cardio day to eat more calories, at least 500 extra i say. The only cardio i do apart from my leg workout (which is certainly cardio the way i do it) is ride my mountain bike maybe 2X a week. My bp is fine and my resting pulse is about 65-68, so i guess my cv fitness is oke. Your cardio work MUST be second in importance to your lifting if you want to build real size, like 15 pounds or more.

Prohormones ARE AAS. They are legal only becuase they were not sold as AAS before the steriod control act in the late '80s The are mild certainly, but are steriods. They suppress your endogenous prodcution of T (testosterone) and replace it. Tribex is very different. It does not suppress your T, but makes your body produce more of your own T. It is just a natural herb. I did not really think it would work, but a money return guarentee they had so i tried it....felt like a mild little AAS cycle actually. DEFINITELY hornier with it and recovery periods were shorter. $87 buys 5 weeks supply from the maker at biotest.com.

Get at least a year of solid training in your journal before thinking about AAS. You will make nice gains when you learn well what works for you. For progress checking, dont look for LBM increases more frequently then 1X per month. Have your bf checked and weigh yourself (preferably not your menses when you will be a little heavier anyway) every 4 weeks or so.

As you go on you will notice that some muscles will need longer to recover then others. This is normal and is one of the many things you will adjust for in your training.

Such a long answer. :D Sorry but i try to answer all your questions. Hope i helped some and ask again if i can help more. :D
 
O sorry Becky, i forgot to mention about how you said about doing more reps after ten seconds after your set. This is a rather advanced technique called rest/pause. A bodybuilder named Mike Mentzer used to love it and recommend it so much. I dont think you should try this yet as it may actually overtrain you if you do it after all your sets. You could try it if you wish, but i say only if you do fewer total sets.
 
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