GlucorellR {R+ ALA} and First PWO Meal

[Ulter]

"Drink gatorade while working out? Does not work for me that well. I am working to cut fat right now, so I time carbs and all very carefully."

Your body needs carbs to burn fat while you're training. You don't have to concern yourself with the carbs making you fat if you are taking the Glucorell R as I directed. All that will happen is that you find yourself training better.

"I have never had good luck working out with anything but water in my stomach."

You never used Glucorell R.

 

[Ulter]

LCBUTLER, You could probably get away with 2 Glucorell R instead of 3 with that shake as long as that's the first carbs of the day. You might consider a couple more with the PWO meal if it's got carbs.

 

[JG1]

"Drink gatorade while working out? Does not work for me that well. I am working to cut fat right now, so I time carbs and all very carefully."

Your body needs carbs to burn fat while you're training. You don't have to concern yourself with the carbs making you fat if you are taking the Glucorell R as I directed. All that will happen is that you find yourself training better.

"I have never had good luck working out with anything but water in my stomach."

You never used Glucorell R.

Ok, say someone isn't taking in ANY carbs before your PW shake...forget the gatorade and apple. Prior to workout, fat/protein, after workout dex/whey shake, 90 minutes later solid food protein/carbs. I know what diet Riker is following and he can't change what he was told to have.

With your PW shake, is there any advantage to not taking r-ALA with it? Will the insulin spike be beneficial?

 

[LCBUTLER]

LCBUTLER, You could probably get away with 2 Glucorell R instead of 3 with that shake as long as that's the first carbs of the day. You might consider a couple more with the PWO meal if it's got carbs.

OK cool. The carbs in my PW shake are not my first carbs of the day but my carb count for a day rarely goes above 150, I workout at about 1 PM so I have had about 40g. of carbs or so....I do count my PW shake carbs and PW meal carbs in my total count as well as fiber intake. You mentioned sipping gatorade while training with 3 caps of gluc.-R in the system. I have also heard this combo can provide some great pumps, I have been a little scared to try it as I do not want to feel tired from the gluc-r during my workout.

With all this pre-workout talk/post workout talk one thing we are not mentioning is the timing of any stimulants before the workout and how that could/would play into the gluc-r timing if at all.

Thanks,

LC

 

[Ulter]

JG1, Yes the insulin spike is beneficial PW.

I can't tell people the best way to use Glucorell R for their diet when their diet is counter to what it can do.
It's like people doing keto diets while taking Thermorexin. Yes, it will help tremendously in many aspects of dieting like that. But is that the best diet for Thermorexin? No.
Is that the best diet for Glucorell R? No. Should you drink gatorade while you train? Absolutely.
I spend all day every day telling people JUST EAT THE CARBS because if you're using Glucorell R they won't hurt you. Too many calories against what you burn will hurt you but the mere fact that they are carbs won't.

To quote wilson6 on the women's board.

"As far as fat vs carb metabolism goes, this business of CO2 confuses me. If you take a single 6 carbon fatty acid (C6-H12-O2) and a single unit of glucose (C6-H12-O6) and oxidize them both aerobically the outcome is still 6 units of CO2. In fact, it requires 5 units more of oxygen to burn the fat versus the carbohydrate. Now, you do get 45 ATP for each 6 carbon fat burned vs 39 ATP for each unit of glucose burned, BUT you can't go anaerobic with fat (producing lactate) and that's why you're limited in terms of exercise intensity. Remember, fat burns in the fire of carbohydrate."

 

[Ulter]

LCBUTLER, That depends on which stimulants you're talking about. For Thermorexin it doesn't matter when you take it in these terms.

This is DR Macro's shift coming up so he can finish.

 

[JG1]

JG1, Yes the insulin spike is beneficial PW.

I can't tell people the best way to use Glucorell R for their diet when their diet is counter to what it can do.
It's like people doing keto diets while taking Thermorexin. Yes, it will help tremendously in many aspects of dieting like that. But is that the best diet for Thermorexin? No.
Is that the best diet for Glucorell R? No. Should you drink gatorade while you train? Absolutely.
I spend all day every day telling people JUST EAT THE CARBS because if you're using Glucorell R they won't hurt you. Too many calories against what you burn will hurt you but the mere fact that they are carbs won't.

To quote wilson6 on the women's board.

"As far as fat vs carb metabolism goes, this business of CO2 confuses me. If you take a single 6 carbon fatty acid (C6-H12-O2) and a single unit of glucose (C6-H12-O6) and oxidize them both aerobically the outcome is still 6 units of CO2. In fact, it requires 5 units more of oxygen to burn the fat versus the carbohydrate. Now, you do get 45 ATP for each 6 carbon fat burned vs 39 ATP for each unit of glucose burned, BUT you can't go anaerobic with fat (producing lactate) and that's why you're limited in terms of exercise intensity. Remember, fat burns in the fire of carbohydrate."

So if one were eating in this fashion...only carbs for your PW shake, and your second PW meal, you'd day skip the r-ALA for the shake and get that insulin spke, then take the r-ALA with the second PW meal which is solid food?

Just trying to be sure we're clear on this.

 

[JG1]

BUMP.


I'm all confused now. Before, you and macro were saying to take the r-ALA with your PW shake, now the insulin spike is beneficial PW.

 

[ProteinFiend]

BUMP.


I'm all confused now. Before, you and macro were saying to take the r-ALA with your PW shake, now the insulin spike is beneficial PW.

I could be wrong, but I think insulin shuttles all nutrients (carbs, protein, and fat) while r-ala shuttles solely carbs.

 

[LCBUTLER]

BUMP.


I'm all confused now. Before, you and macro were saying to take the r-ALA with your PW shake, now the insulin spike is beneficial PW.

This is very confusing. If the point of the carbs in the PW shake is to replace the glucose etc. in your muscle cells and R-ALA helps to shuttle glucose into muscle cells then it seems to me that one of the ABSOLUTE best times to take r-ALA is with the PW shake, and again with the PW meal that typically is eaten 60-90 min after the shake. With my routine I am barely done with my workout and I am sucking down my shake as I bring it with me to the gym. I take my r-ALA and other supps 15 min before my workout ends. I know some of this timing is a bit compulsive but I try to get things right, and this is one of those things that is easy to do if you have the right info. Also, let's not forget that if there is any meal(s) during the day to fret over the timing, the PW meals are the ones to do it. The body does not get primed for nutriton intake the same way as PW.

LC