Some girls are just deadfucks brother, plain & simple. I have been with a few strippers in my days that sucked in Bed, and was shocked. You'd think that a Woman that can move that well on stage would be a virtual gymnast in the sack, but it isn't always true. I went out with a really sweet girl that I used to bartend with a few years ago as well, and she was by FAR the worst piece of sex that I have ever had. I tried to talk to her about it, and she just came off with the attitude that "Im not going to change, or do that because YOU want me to"! Kinda like a Feminist, "I wont do that because some Man says so" type attitude I thought. It was a waste of a year of my life brother. If a girl doesnt like sex..chances are you aint gonna make her. Move on
O, and about the Masturbation thing...I agree with you. The deadfuck Bargirl that I spoke of didnt do it either. IMO, it is kind of hard to know what you like done to you if you've never tried it on yourself. She felt like that would make her dirty if she did that I guess. I was like HELL YA MAN...Dirty would be nice!!! Not a chance.