Genetics...

[sk*]

No.....it doesn't even have to be extremes. In the early stages, their strength always outbalances their physique......greatly.

And with women i've seen and heard virilisation and other tell tale signs from a 3 week cycle.

You are wrong. It is greatly individual. Most people my size are way stronger than I am ...

Regarding woman, it depends what kind of a cycle they do. A small anavar cycle won't do anything to their voice.

-sk

 

[slobberknocker]

VG is such a steroids expert.

 

[vinylgroover]

I'm not talking about guys your size.

I'm taking about the guy who is 170 pounds, has been lifting for 6 months, starts a cycle and doubles his weights. Same with girls.

I'm not talking about randomly picking it, which is easy with very muscular people , but observing behaviour in the gym and physical characteristics of the 'smaller' users.

 

[vinylgroover]

VG is such a steroids expert.

I've got you guys sorted

 

[OreoPL]

hey vg i dont agree with you on this one. i ahve been working out for only 6 months and i have added 500 pounds to my PL total with no steroids. i have only put on 10 pounds of muscle give or take a few pounds. and my size still looks the same. maybe i ahve good genetics maybe i dont. but being 6'2" and just breaking 190 and deadlifting mid 400 squating near 400 and benching around 200 after only six months if you saw me at the gym would u think i juiced just becasue my stregnth has increase by more than double in a short amount of time. or did i read it backwards and you were saying that they will be big but not strong?

 

[sk*]

I'm not talking about guys your size.

I'm taking about the guy who is 170 pounds, has been lifting for 6 months, starts a cycle and doubles his weights. Same with girls.

I'm not talking about randomly picking it, which is easy with very muscular people , but observing behaviour in the gym and physical characteristics of the 'smaller' users.

This is pointless.
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-sk

 

[vinylgroover]

Man, I really hate how you keep commenting on these steroid related threads and act as if you are the steroid expert.


-sk

It's not a steroid related thread SK. Do you need to take drugs or alcohol to know when someone's is off their face.

Don't be so fucking ridiculous. Any individual who has any knowledge of training and steroid principles, half a fucking brain and an observant eye can pick it in alot of cases, not all, but in most

 

[sk*]

It's not a steroid related thread SK. Do you need to take drugs or alcohol to know when someone's is off their face.

Don't be so fucking ridiculous. Any individual who has any knowledge of training and steroid principles, half a fucking brain and an observant eye can pick it in alot of cases, not all, but in most

Your eye must be way more observant than mine ...

-sk

 

[vinylgroover]

Your eye must be way more observant than mine ...

-sk

It probably is.......some people are stronger than others, some are more observant and their ability to analyse is better.

 

[sk*]

It probably is.......some people are stronger than others, some are more observant and their ability to analyse is better.

Actually I am the most observant person I know. I just don't jump to conclusions ...

-sk