first cycle sustanon and anavar advice needed

[susandvar]

hello looking for some advice on my first cycle, ive been training for 3 years im 5`8 83kg lean i started taking anavar one week ago at 100mg per day 50mg in morning and 50mg at night, since taking the anavar ive learnt that its advised to take it with tesosterone, so yesturday i started on sustanon 250 i gonna take 2ml per week split on mondays and fridays, for 12 weeks, my question is how long should i take the anavar for? ive been advised to use it for 12 weeks, while others have told me its a really bad idea to stay on any oral more than 4 weeks and im gonna make myself ill, if anyone could chime in and see if im going wrong anywhere id appriciate it alot cheers

 

[RickRock13]

You should not take any methylated oral steroid for longer than 6 weeks, because of its effects on the liver. You really need to be taking N2guard while on it, and you need to be taking an AI like aromasin at 12.5mg EOD while on the sustanon to control estrogen.

Make sure you have a good PCT planned out as well.

Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Liquid Aromasin (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Test Stack 17 or Phytoserms (PM me or see threads below for info and discounts) http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...hytoserms-347-347-beyond-natural-1260633.html

 

[susandvar]

thanks for the reply, i forgot to mention im getting the aromasin on wednesday, do i run this all the time im on or just if i spot gyno? and would the anavar at 4 weeks 100mg per day have any impact on the physque? or would u say pointless running it

 

[RickRock13]

thanks for the reply, i forgot to mention im getting the aromasin on wednesday, do i run this all the time im on or just if i spot gyno? and would the anavar at 4 weeks 100mg per day have any impact on the physque? or would u say pointless running it

Use the aromasin the whole time while on cycle. Anavar can be a great kickstart and you will have some nice results from it if your diet and training are on point

 

[dylangemelli]

if you have quality anavar then there would be no need to exceed 60 mg day... make sure you are protecting yourself with n2guard... anavar is a lot more toxic than people like to think and you need to be protected... i would highly consider adding sarms to your cycle as well to fully enhance it... especially s4 and gw-501516... they stack so well with anavar... SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

 

[susandvar]

the anavar is supposedly very good, no joint dryness or back pains, my man tells me these are the factors for getting real var or stuff crossed with winnie

 

[25homes]

I'd switch out the var for Oxandavar bro...too much fake var. Gonna need aromasin throughout cycle from agguys. .Also I'd add gw and s4 to length of cycle and Def take n2guard and hegenerate during cycle. .follow evolution pct protocol

 

[STTM]

100mg of Anavar for your first cycle? Where did you come up with that idea?

 

[dylangemelli]

bro... your going to find out the hard way that 100 mg of quality anavar is far too much... most advanced users don't even dose it that high... more is not always better and there comes a point where you get too high on the dosing and the effects just become negative... you need to rethink what your doing... here is an example of an optimal cycle for what you have going...


1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 GW-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 s4 50 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-6 anavar 60 mg day
1-12 n2guard n2bm.com
5-12 HCGenerate n2bm.com
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week


PCT 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 ag-guys.com
aromasin 12..5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

 

[susandvar]

yo ive dropped it to 80mg per day, is 100mg of anavar really that bad for u? thanks for the help

 

[dylangemelli]

yo ive dropped it to 80mg per day, is 100mg of anavar really that bad for u? thanks for the help

bro, do you think we have time to waste our breath telling you 100 mg is not good? there's no need to ask the same question multiple times... MORE IS NOT BETTER... ITS OFTEN DETRIMENTAL... its quite clear your one that's going to have to learn the hard way and that's a shame but im not going to tell you the same thing over and over... there is no need to exceed 60 mg of quality anavar... your just adding more methylation, more side effects and causing unnecessary stress on your internal organs as well as lipids and cholesterol... its all unnecessary but you will learn...

 

[silent_revolver]

yo ive dropped it to 80mg per day, is 100mg of anavar really that bad for u? thanks for the help

Back in 2010 my boy and I decided to run our first cycle, idiots that we were we did an Anavar only cycle. I was on 60mg daily, he went from 60 to 120mg daily.

I was not doing too bad, but was definitely shutdown by the end. I felt quite lethargic by week 4 (No liver support) but pushed through it and did PCT and kept most my gains. My boy on the other hand had serious fucking problems. His PCT was shit and his lipid profile got shot to shits. From benching 275 for 12 reps at the end of the cycle, he became lethargic, shutdown and just generally depressed so he quit training for 3 months after the cycle. After the hiatus he was struggling to push 135 for 8 and was generally mopey and wack. Mind you before cycling we both had 2-3 years of training under our belt and were both benching 225 for 8 reps.

So Anavar by itself is toxic as shit, and it will shut you down mighty hard. 100mg will fuck with your lipid profile. Use N2guard, and for fucks sake, take Dylan's advice and drop it down to 50-60mg. Sust at 250mg should give you a good enough base to work on, you can bump it up to 250mg twice a week, that is still better than taking 100mg anavar.

I am on 350mg of Test EW and 50mg anavar daily stacked with GW. Been using Aromasin and N2guard to protect myself. Been making sick gains and feeling great ever since day 1. Drop it down man, there is no reason to be running orals at that high a dosage - EVER.

My max bench went from 325 - 425 in ten weeks, no fucking joke
My max squat went from 455 -525 in ten weeks
Was closing to a 600 DL but fucked my lower back

Body fat went down by 5%
Weight went dow slightly by 10 pounds

This is the strength gain I got from a cutting diet! I spent a lot of time designing my diet to reap the most effect out of peri workout nutrition and making sure all the food I eat feed the muscle and burn fat. The GW really helps with the leaning out aspect as well. I train 4-5 days a week and do skip ropes and ruck marches with 30kg backpack 3 times a week for cardio.

the moral here is that you can amazing gains of a sensible amount of gear even at an intermediate/advance level. So don't make the mistake I made the first time and just take it slow brother. Coz once you start with the roids and you do it right, you'll be wanting more in the future. Don't burn out too soon.

Stay hungry, stay foolish, but don't be a daft cunt.