First cycle Omnadren???

[djbyrnie]

Heyy, i'm off to Bulgaria soon and been told they sell omnadren over the counter at the pharmacies. I was wondering if this stuff would be good for first injectable cylce (done oral dbol before).
What other stuff can i pick up whilst over there? Nolva?
Should i stack anything with it or just stick at 250 of the omna twice a week?
Cheers,

Dan.

 

[irishrugger]

Do you have a cycle set up?...duration, post cycle, on cycle support etc.?

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[Arabian]

Omnadren 250 is actually a blend of 4 test esters. DJ ,you will notice an increase in their testosterone levels sooner with Omnadren than with Test. This has a few consequences which we shall examine now. First of all, since testosterone aromatizes (converts) to estrogen, a buildup of this female hormone will occur more rapidly. With estrogen increase follows the inevitability of increased water retention. This is significant for 3 reasons: First, your strength will increase. Secondly, your size will increase, and finally, definition in the muscles will begin to dissipate. As an obvious result, Omnadren is typically used more for bulking than cutting. The extent of these effects are highly dictated by the users diet and training habits, although it is also easily controlled with the proper use of anti-estrogen drugs such as Nolvadex, Armidex, Proviron, and a myriad of others. Good luck to you DJ.

I would run 14 weeks
2 shots per week 500 mg
Week 1-4
Dbol 30mgs per day

Make sure your diet and training are dialed in and you should be good to go.

 

[djbyrnie]

Cheers, it will be a bulking cycle, any way i can keep the water retention down??
I was thinking 2 shots per week 250 each(500/week)
Was also thinking of front loading with the dbol, is 30mgs a day enough?
The thing im not to sure on is the best pct, i've used novla before, what about clomid throughout the cycle?
Much appreciated,

Dan.

 

[Arabian]

Cheers, it will be a bulking cycle, any way i can keep the water retention down??
I was thinking 2 shots per week 250 each(500/week)
Was also thinking of front loading with the dbol, is 30mgs a day enough?
The thing im not to sure on is the best pct, i've used novla before, what about clomid throughout the cycle?
Much appreciated,

Dan.

Try Unleased and Forma Stanza and clomid at 50 mg after. And you should be running 250 mgs of HCG per week from week 1-14.

 

[djbyrnie]

Top man, where's the best bet to source this stuff, can i pick any of it up in bulgaria whilst i'm at it?? Online? I have got a source through someone i know but not sure on what he can get hold of pct wise?
I'm not going to start the cycle until i have it all to hand. I've never pinned before either so that'll be a learning curve, transfering it all from the amps etc.
Thanks for the good advise bro,

Dan.

 

[Arabian]

Top man, where's the best bet to source this stuff, can i pick any of it up in bulgaria whilst i'm at it?? Online? I have got a source through someone i know but not sure on what he can get hold of pct wise?
I'm not going to start the cycle until i have it all to hand. I've never pinned before either so that'll be a learning curve, transfering it all from the amps etc.
Thanks for the good advise bro,

Dan.

Needtobuildmuscle.com for Hcgenerate, Forma Stanzol and Unleased. Try Rxprohub for your Clomid and HCG.

 

[djbyrnie]

Cheers again pal, you've really been helpfull thanks for all the advice,

Dan.

 

[Liquid 2009]

Sust and Omna are same thing

 

[djbyrnie]

except price wise, omna's cheaper isn't it?

 

[djbyrnie]

Right, its been a while since I last posted, I've been to Bulgaria now I'm home.
Whilst over there I got myself 12weeks worth of Omnadren 250, and some Clomid, I also have dbol. I've been putting together a cycle as I want to get it right first time so I know what else to buy and how much. Let me know what you think, what I should do instead etc, Cheers:

weeks 1-12: Omnadren 250 - 500mgs/wk(250x2)
weeks 1-4: Dbol - 40mgs/ed
weeks 1-12: Proviron 50mgs/ed <---- NOT TOO SURE ABOUT THIS???
weeks 6-8: t-3 cytomel 12.5mgs/ed
weeks 8-12: t-3 cytomel 25mgs/ed
weeks 12-16:HCGenerate 5caps/ed
weeks 12-16:Clomid 50mgs/ed

I'm thinking about HCG whilst on cycle, is it necessary? Advice very welcome, not starting this cycle until I have everything in place and everything planned.
Cheers,

Dan.

 

[djbyrnie]

bump^

 

[njmuscleguy]

I would run 14 weeks
2 shots per week 500 mg
Week 1-4
Dbol 30mgs per day

14 weeks for a first cycle??

 

[njmuscleguy]

First off, I'm glad you decided on a 12-week cycle... back in the day, 8-10 was the norm for a first cycle... then it creeped up to 10-12... now I'm hear even higher.... personally, I feel that a first cycle should be at about 10 weeks (definitely no more than 12).

As for your cycle, it looks good. I personally love proviron. It works great with test, it's a mild anti-estrogen, and it's great for libido. It should be sufficient as your anti-estrogen, but just in case, you may want to have some on-hand. I can't comment on the t3, I don't have experience with that. I would recommend HCG during the cycle at a low dosage, so that you're primed for PCT, then HCGenerate plus clomid will do the trick (you may even be able to get away with 25mg of clomid instead of 50mg).

Good luck!

 

[djbyrnie]

Cheers for the advice, t-3's will be a first for me also. I want to cut up at the end of the cycle as I know Omnadren produces a big but puffy rounded look. Doesn't HCG become ineffective if run for too long? or is that complete bs? should I run it the last 4 weeks of cycle? e.g weeks 8-12?? 250iu's a week??
Thanks again,

Dan.

 

[njmuscleguy]

you'll get conflicting opinions on running the hcg during cycle... some will stay do it right from the start, some will say start it a few weeks into the cycle, right before your body has completely stopped making its own test... but since you're trying to avoid complete shutdown, I would do it from the start... it's a low dosage anyway...250iu's twice a week

 

[djbyrnie]

cool, cheers for all the advice think I've finalised my shopping list
So my cycle would look something like this:

weeks 1-12: Omnadren 250 - 500mgs/wk(250x2)
weeks 1-12: HCG 500ui's/wk (250x2)
weeks 1-4: dbol - 40mgs/ed
weeks 1-12: Proviron 50mgs/ed
weeks 6-8: t-3 Cytomel 12.5mgs/ed
weeks 8-12: t-3 Cytomel 25mgs/ed
weeks 12-16:HCGenerate 5caps/ed
weeks 12-16:Clomid 50mgs/ed

I'm looking at Unclez.net for the Proviron but all I can find is 20x25mg packs, that'd mean I'd need 8 packs - (kinda expensive) Is there anywhere I can get them in bulk? or maybe even 50mg tabs?
Trying to keep the costs down, if possible.
Cheers again,

Dan.

 

[daveyboy2345]

no need to run hcg at the very beginning, start at week 4 and then throughout.

 

[djbyrnie]

Right, I didn't end up doing the cycle last summer. I got delayed due to family problems, I've started today though.
Just now done my first ever pin. 1ml of omnadren 250 in the right glute.
I used a 21gauge to draw and a 23 to shoot. I'll be honest I was sh*tting myself, it took me about 45mins to do it.
I cleaned the area with alcohol, checked for no air, went in at 90degrees, pulled back(was hard to pull back) - no blood, pressed it down, took a while.
Didn't hurt as much as I thought it was going to.
Is there a good way to open amps? I used a pen lid.
Hopefully next time will be easier, (thursday), I'll keep you posted on my gains etc.

 

[djbyrnie]

Right, 4th jab of omna250 tommorow (1ml X Mon/Thursday), how long does it take to kick in?
I've heard 4 weeks or so?
Started the dbol @ 40mg e/d thought it was a bit too much so dropped it to 30mg e/d.
My lifts are up and have put on about 5lbs.
Can get hold of HCG whenever i need it, was thinking last 4 weeks of cycle? Its the mixing and storing it i'm concerned about?
Also have proviron on hand for end of the cycle, i'm thinking last 3 weeks @ 50mgs e/d?
my HCGenerate arrived the other day as well, for pct
(have loads of clomid also)

 

[djbyrnie]

Right I'm half way through(6 weeks in), come off the dbol nearly 2 weeks ago now, I've got proviron for the last 3 weeks of cycle(weeks 10,11,12)@50mg/day,
I'm thinking of adding anavar during these three weeks (as well as the Proviron) to really get that lean/pumped look? What dosage should I do with the proviron @ 50mg/day?
Is this a bit OTT on the orals?

cycle's going great btw, lifts have increased, weights gone up.
Its changed a bit from what i proposed, it looks like this:

weeks 1-4: dbol - 40mgs/ed
weeks 1-12: Omnadren 250 - 500mgs/wk(250x2)
weeks 1-10 Arimidex 1mg/eod
weeks 9-13: HCG 1000ui's/wk (500x2)
weeks 10-17 Arimidex 1mg e3days <----- ????
weeks 10-12: Proviron 50mgs/ed
(week after last injection)
weeks 13-17:HCGenerate 5caps/ed
weeks 13-17:Clomid 50mgs/ed

So i was thinking of 50/60 mg of anavar at the last three weeks with the proviron, or maybe 4 weeks?

 

[cosminax]

I bought omnadren and I don't know if this product is real or fake? The lot number is 104231, expiry date - 04 2014. What do u say. U can help me? Thanks a lot