First Cycle - Advice Needed ASAP

[Bobster]

Dear all, good day

I will make this a bit quick since I am extreemly new to steroids but not new to bodybuilding since i've been training for the past 10 years now.

I decided to take my trainin a bit further and start a steroid cycle that will be consisting of Test and Deca.

So I just purchased 2 components one says Sustanon 250 mg and one says Equipoise 250 mg. The brand is German and I was told by my trainer that the first is the Test and the second is the Deca.

Question number 1 :

Are these component authentic? Will they be what Im looking for for a first cycle? ( im looking to gain 15 pounds with a nice muscle shape and some power )

Question number 2 :

I will be administrating half a mg of Sustanon and half a mg of the Equipoise twice a week for 6 to 8 weeks.

If I may ask for your good suggestion regarding this and what can I further add to it.

Cheers

 

[FunKoMaN]

Stats?

 

[jtmdell]

Equipoise is not deca, two different substances. Personally I prefer EQ over deca so if you already bought it you are better off.

That should make for a good first cycle. Do you have an AI? What's your post cycle look like?

 

[jtmdell]

Also run the sust at 500mg per week and the EQ a little higher, say 600 mg. make sure your pct is correct

 

[Bobster]

My stats goes like this : 170 cm - 80 kg - 20% Bf

Well that's great news regarding the EQ Jtmdell, thank you, as for the PCT I'll be using N and Clomid... Didnt buy any yet so I can modify the plan upon you guys' good advice. However, isnt 500mg of sust and 600mg of EQ a bit high for a first cycle?

Should I administrate them both together in one shot for example?

Allow me to thank you for the fast replies I really need it!

 

[brazilbeast]

First off your source is either a fool that doesn't know what he is doing or just a liar. The equipoise is not deca, it is a completely different substance. Personally I would save the EQ for your second cycle and for now just run the Sust. Even though I wouldn't even run Sust personally, especially for your first cycle. You don't even know how you react to a simple Test E cycle and you are going to be putting multiple kinds of test in your body at once. Good luck make sure you have an AI on hand...

 

[Bobster]

Im sure my source is an idiot, I've managed to establish that already

 

[jtmdell]

Keep the sust for your first cycle. It's great for a first cycle. If you think the EQ is too much then drop it and maybe add some d Bol. The reason for the higher dose of EQ is because it really needs to be run at a higher dose to be effective. You can do them both in one shot. EQ makes me super hungry so if you are looking to bulk it's great but some people use it for cutting too.

 

[MagenxA]

Dear all, good day

I will make this a bit quick since I am extreemly new to steroids but not new to bodybuilding since i've been training for the past 10 years now.

I decided to take my trainin a bit further and start a steroid cycle that will be consisting of Test and Deca.

So I just purchased 2 components one says Sustanon 250 mg and one says Equipoise 250 mg. The brand is German and I was told by my trainer that the first is the Test and the second is the Deca.

Question number 1 :

Are these component authentic? Will they be what Im looking for for a first cycle? ( im looking to gain 15 pounds with a nice muscle shape and some power )

Question number 2 :

I will be administrating half a mg of Sustanon and half a mg of the Equipoise twice a week for 6 to 8 weeks.

If I may ask for your good suggestion regarding this and what can I further add to it.

Cheers

As far as I remember Sustanon 250 is created for TRT patients so they'll only have to inject once every 8 days. You better check that info just to make sure you wont end up like me experiencing very bad side effects

Check for Dylan's video regarding sustanon 250 on youtube

 

[Bobster]

Did you experience side effects with Sust? Like what can you share these info?

I ran my first shot yesterday with 250 mg of Stut and 250 Mg of EQ... Im planing on running 500 mg Stut and 625 mg of Eq per week for 12 weeks... That's it plain and simple.

Now as for the PCT I have absolutelly no Idea, I think I will start Nolvadex, but I just dont know when will be the optimum period to start running it with the cycle.

 

[EZ_E]

#1 Yes you're source is an idiot.

#2 You're in absolutely ZERO shape to be using juice. That means physically and mentally. By mentally I mean knowing how these drugs work and impact your body.

If those stats are accurate then your probably need a major overhaul of your diet and training. Please post what you eat and BE SPECIFIC.

Don't say "I eat pretty good" post exactly what parts your lips; food, quantities, how it's prepared, what you drink, etc.

 

[Bobster]

Why am I in no shape physically??

I may understand that I do not know about cycling juice from A to Z but this is why we're here no?

Anyways I would appreciate if anyone can dearly advise a PCT plan, currently im planing to run Nolvadex and Clomid since they're very available in my area of residence ( Saudi Arabia ) However, Im having difficulties trying to find out when to start running it.

Btw, Saudi Arabia is not my country of origin...

As for food, here is a schedule i started 2 days ago:

1) 2 Bananas with a 1 litter of milk
2) 3 boiled eggs
3) Rice with a main dish, usually including meat, fish or chicken. Grilled
4) Prior workout workout 1 scoop of proteins (30g of protein, 3 grams of creating. Im using Muscletech Isolate)
4) Post workout, Rice with 2 cans of tuna with 2 scoop of proteins
5) Tones of fruits throughout the day

 

[damn shame]

PCT generally starts 3 weeks after your last injection of Sust. People do like to vary their approach to PCT. Here are a few examples.

Day 1 - Nolvadex - 100mg
Following 10 days - 60mg
Following 10 days - 40mg

Some people like to add clomid

Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg

Personally I don't think clomid is necessary as they are both SERMS.

You could also try the following PCT for 4 weeks

Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Nolvadex 20mg ED

You could be prone to gyno (bitch tits) so always good to have and AI on hand (arimidex) If you cannot get this then Nolvadex will help. Personally I would not have started a course until I had everything I needed. PCT is important.

 

[MagenxA]

Did you experience side effects with Sust? Like what can you share these info?

I ran my first shot yesterday with 250 mg of Stut and 250 Mg of EQ... Im planing on running 500 mg Stut and 625 mg of Eq per week for 12 weeks... That's it plain and simple.

Now as for the PCT I have absolutelly no Idea, I think I will start Nolvadex, but I just dont know when will be the optimum period to start running it with the cycle.

Yes, I did experienced the side effects with sustanon. It was my first cycle that time and didnt research and take other opinions on using the drug and end up listening to one guy. What happens to me is I realized that my chest and back are starting to have acne. A lot of acne. Then my nipple starts to hurt and I can feel a lump behind it.

But now I got rid the acne and lucky me I didnt end up with gyno.

As for the medicine I took for the acne,I took APO-DOXY (Doxycycline Hyclate Capsules/ taken every 12 hours) & Clyndacint. It's available in your local pharmacies coz I live in Saudi Arabia as well

 

[TheKid7]

#1 Yes you're source is an idiot.

#2 You're in absolutely ZERO shape to be using juice. That means physically and mentally. By mentally I mean knowing how these drugs work and impact your body.

If those stats are accurate then your probably need a major overhaul of your diet and training. Please post what you eat and BE SPECIFIC.

Don't say "I eat pretty good" post exactly what parts your lips; food, quantities, how it's prepared, what you drink, etc.

This. And just because you think you have a "good diet" doesn't mean you are ready to start taking AAS.. And I'm not sure who said this earlier but Sust is not a good choice for a first cycle.. Stick to one ester of test. You need to do a lot more research instead of having other people tell you what to do before running anything, oh and your source sounds sketchy but sure inject yourself with vegetable oil I heard its good for overall health!

 

[joonp]

U need a lot more protein. Thats not even enough for when ur off cycle. U need at least 1gram per lb of weight and preferably 1.5-2 grams of protein. I would also add more carbs like sweet potatoes, black beans, etc

 

[dylangemelli]

bro, your body fat is FAR too high for steroid use... you should NEVER consider deca for a first cycle... you are going to hurt yourself associating yourself with the types of people you are... telling you that deca is eq and vice versa... seriously?? not even close... your not ready physically nor are you ready knowledge wise to be anywhere near steroids... your going to end up hurting yourself... here's what you need to do... be responsible... stick around and learn some things here and get your body fat down to where it needs to be so you can SAFELY and EFFECTIVELY run a cycle in the future instead of jumping into something your not even close to ready for... start by reading my articles on sarms at Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMS) - Evolutionary.org Run a cycle of sarms and get yourself in the proper condition to eventually run a cycle... do everything right... this is a marathon, not a sprint and nothing is more important than health and longevity... here is a full layout for you...


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[EZ_E]

Why am I in no shape physically??

I may understand that I do not know about cycling juice from A to Z but this is why we're here no?

Anyways I would appreciate if anyone can dearly advise a PCT plan, currently im planing to run Nolvadex and Clomid since they're very available in my area of residence ( Saudi Arabia ) However, Im having difficulties trying to find out when to start running it.

Btw, Saudi Arabia is not my country of origin...

As for food, here is a schedule i started 2 days ago:

1) 2 Bananas with a 1 litter of milk
2) 3 boiled eggs
3) Rice with a main dish, usually including meat, fish or chicken. Grilled
4) Prior workout workout 1 scoop of proteins (30g of protein, 3 grams of creating. Im using Muscletech Isolate)
4) Post workout, Rice with 2 cans of tuna with 2 scoop of proteins
5) Tones of fruits throughout the day

If you're 20% BF (unless you're competing in WSM) then you're not in juice shape. I don't think you're 20% BF tho looking @ that picture.

Diet needs work. Meal one you need good solid protein. Drop the fruit throughout the day; too much sugar.

Don't forget the stay hydrated.

 

[Bobster]

Alright guys thank you for the replies. I really wish I had more resources to work on here in Saudi Arabia. Believe me that if I did I'd go with whatever you're advising via shipping or via any method, sadly im neither in the States nor in an area of the world where I can ship anything. Here if you wana ship a damn T-Shirt you'll have to go through lot of procedure with the customs.

Anyhow it's worth to mention that it's not my first first cycle completely... 4-5 years ago I ran couple of cycles including Test-E and Primo I didnt mention it before because it was far back I'm sorry for that. They gave me super great gains at that time.

I made some researches, got my PCT and a whole lot of supplements, AND improved my diet. I went forward with the cycle following this layout :

1)
Week 1-10 Sustanon 500 mg / Week
Week 1-10 Equipoise 625 mg / Week
Week 1-10 Primobolan 600 mg / Week

Components injected in 1 pin 3 times a week.



2)
PCT 3 weeks after last injection include following SERMS
Clomid: 50/50/25/25/12.5
Nolvadex: 40/20/20/20/10

These all are in my disposal now, but Im finding difficulties finding Aroma sin to use it as an on cycle AI
Any good substitute for Aromasin for an on cycle AI ? With dosage?


3) My Food diet will consist of:

1) 2 Bananas with a 1 litter of milk with oats
2) 4 boiled eggs with Soy and whole grain milk
3) Rice with a main dish, usually including meat, fish or chicken. Grilled
4) Vegetables including boiled brockley, carrots, diacritics, and sweet potatoes
4) Prior workout 1 scoop of proteins (30g of protein, 3 grams of creating. Im using Muscletech Isolate)
5) During workout 5 tablets of Amino Acide 9000 (im using Olipm Anabolic Amino 9000 Mega Tabs)
4) Post workout, Rice with 2 cans of tuna with 2 scoop of proteins (60g of protein, 6 grams of creating. Im using Muscletech Isolate)
5) I will lessen the fruits throughout the day as advised
6) Omega 3-6-8 after each meal
7) Multi vit 3 caps morning 3 caps night ( Im using Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men Multi vit)

 

[hurricane]

Im sure my source is an idiot, I've managed to establish that already

eq is way different then deca.Different sides, different results and different methods of oncylce support should be used for each

 

[Bobster]

Ok guys these are my components, just finished the first week and noticed a big boost. However for the first time I am urinating phosphoric colors (bright yellow) !!

I'm just a little bit concerned.

Anyhow... I will be performing my blood test tomorrow morning and see how is it going

If you can shed the lights on what to look for in a blood test guys... I'd really appreciate it

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok guys these are my components, just finished the first week and noticed a big boost. However for the first time I am urinating phosphoric colors (bright yellow) !!

I'm just a little bit concerned.

Anyhow... I will be performing my blood test tomorrow morning and see how is it going

If you can shed the lights on what to look for in a blood test guys... I'd really appreciate it

make sure you get a full panel done and when you get results, post them and we will assess for you bro...

 

[25homes]

Be very careful bro

 

[dylangemelli]

have you gotten any results yet?

 

[Billybucko]

I use equipoise 250 and sustanon 250 both mixed in the same needle, . 5 ml each so that's 1 ml and do that 3 times a week, works great,