First cycle advice - bulking

[callmejay]

Also bro.....do NOT run hcg during pct!!!! It IS suppressive period. You use hcg in the two weeks between your last pin of test and your first day of pct. Yes......you need to wait two weeks before starting pct.

This is one way to do it. A lot of people use 500iu ED leading up to PCT, or blast it. There's so many different protocols and a million threads on it.

Alternatively and what I personally plan to do in my next cycle is is 250iu Mon and Thurs throughout the entire cycle stopping 4 days before PCT. This keeps the boys ready to go so once PCT starts they are much more receptive and responsive.

But yes, HCG is suppresive and you don't start recovery until you stop the HCG.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

This is one way to do it. A lot of people use 500iu ED leading up to PCT, or blast it. There's so many different protocols and a million threads on it.

Alternatively and what I personally plan to do in my next cycle is is 250iu Mon and Thurs throughout the entire cycle stopping 4 days before PCT. This keeps the boys ready to go so once PCT starts they are much more receptive and responsive.

But yes, HCG is suppresive and you don't start recovery until you stop the HCG.

He didnt plan on running HCG during cycle so I didnt take it in that direction.
But yes you are absolutely correct. The USUAL protocl is to run hcg at either 250 or 500iu twice a week throughout(250 personally does dick for me). Usually starting sometime around weeks 3-5. This the time you will start to notice shrinkage. Taking it right from day one is just wasting your money and not necessary.

If you dont mind the shrinkage while on then I say save it for pre PCT. I personally dont care either way. You are correct again that in the week preceeding PCT many guys do 500-1000iu ED or do a few large blast type shots. All are perfectly acceptable. As long as the HCG is stopped once you start PCT.

 

[callmejay]

He didnt plan on running HCG during cycle so I didnt take it in that direction.
But yes you are absolutely correct. The USUAL protocl is to run hcg at either 250 or 500iu twice a week throughout(250 personally does dick for me). Usually starting sometime around weeks 3-5. This the time you will start to notice shrinkage. Taking it right from day one is just wasting your money and not necessary.

If you dont mind the shrinkage while on then I say save it for pre PCT. I personally dont care either way. You are correct again that in the week preceeding PCT many guys do 500-1000iu ED or do a few large blast type shots. All are perfectly acceptable. As long as the HCG is stopped once you start PCT.

Well said.

Week 13-16 torem 90mg, 60mg, 60mg, 30mg a day
Week 13-16 clomid 25mg a day
Week 13-16 unleashed post cycle combo or recycle by purus lab
Week 13-16 D-aspartic acid 3g a day
Week 13-16 aromasin 25mg a day
Week 13-15 hcg 500iu a day
Week 13-15 1000iu a day

Let's revise this a bit. My understanding is that you need to wait a couple weeks to start PCT when using a longer ester like Cyp.

Something more like this:

Week 15-18 clomid 25mg a day
Week 15-18 unleashed post cycle combo or recycle by purus lab
Week 15-18 D-aspartic acid 3g a day
Week 15-18 aromasin 25mg a day

You could use Forma Stanzol instead of Aromasin, both are very effective at increasing IGF-1.

Burn would you agree with the the timeframe?

 

[wootoom]

Thats insane....did i hear this correctly? You are only 165lbs?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Thats insane....did i hear this correctly? You are only 165lbs?

Yeah, there is that too. But with some of the shit I've seen here recently I figured its pointless to argue. At least this guy tried to do some research.

 

[wootoom]

Yeah, there is that too. But with some of the shit I've seen here recently I figured its pointless to argue. At least this guy tried to do some research.

Ya no shit brother...like this is a first cycle now?? Wow...people need to chill out and just ease into it

 

[infraredline]

Well said.



Let's revise this a bit. My understanding is that you need to wait a couple weeks to start PCT when using a longer ester like Cyp.

Something more like this:

Week 15-18 clomid 25mg a day
Week 15-18 unleashed post cycle combo or recycle by purus lab
Week 15-18 D-aspartic acid 3g a day
Week 15-18 aromasin 25mg a day

You could use Forma Stanzol instead of Aromasin, both are very effective at increasing IGF-1.

Burn would you agree with the the timeframe?

Why are you getting rid of the torem? the shit is gold when it comes to pct

 

[callmejay]

Why are you getting rid of the torem? the shit is gold when it comes to pct

Oops, unintentional. Just meant to get rid of the HCG and adjust the start times. Thanks for catching that.

 

[infraredline]

Oops, unintentional. Just meant to get rid of the HCG and adjust the start times. Thanks for catching that.

Haha anytime bro

 

[RADAR]

Not sure what you're hoping to accomplish running all those compounds, Hell even i don't use that much, With Fresh Virgin Receptors a Test only cycle at 500mgs a week should yield you a good 18-20lbs Providing your diet is on spot, what you're trying to do is bring Gasoline to a marshmellow cook out,completely unneccessary.