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Fina and HIV.... need some help here guys

Re: Re: Fina and HIV.... need some help here guys

Fonz said:


Your choices are Deca, Anavar and Test.

Tren def. suppresses the immune system.

Fonz

I was pretty sure it did but did not want to say not being 100% sure.

Quad
 
Your choices are Deca, Anavar and Test.

I do not feel that Deca is a good choice, while it somewhat boosts the immune system while on, it tends to leave you immuno compermised for awhile after you stop its use. Primo should also work for you. Also you should have no problem getting a script for hgh, as it is indicated for use to prevent wasting in HIV patients. L-glutimine should also be added to your daily supps along with ALA, a high potency multi vit, multi mineral and added zinc. Extra L-lysine noted for its anti viral action in the body may help. It is very important that you train, but not over train. Be sure to get plenty of rest and sleep. Most important realize that having HIV is not a terminal illness, it may progress to AIDS, but there is a good chance with todays treatments that it never will. What you need to do is stay healthy until a cure is found for you. Look at sliprock's friend 20 years with HIV and doing good. Look at Magic Johnson. Good luck to you bro.
 
Sorry to hear the bad news bro. All i can recommend is that you do EXTENSIVE research before taking anything. Hang in there buddy
 
liftsiron said:


I do not feel that Deca is a good choice, while it somewhat boosts the immune system while on, it tends to leave you immuno compermised for awhile after you stop its use. Primo should also work for you. Also you should have no problem getting a script for hgh, as it is indicated for use to prevent wasting in HIV patients. L-glutimine should also be added to your daily supps along with ALA, a high potency multi vit, multi mineral and added zinc. Extra L-lysine noted for its anti viral action in the body may help. It is very important that you train, but not over train. Be sure to get plenty of rest and sleep. Most important realize that having HIV is not a terminal illness, it may progress to AIDS, but there is a good chance with todays treatments that it never will. What you need to do is stay healthy until a cure is found for you. Look at sliprock's friend 20 years with HIV and doing good. Look at Magic Johnson. Good luck to you bro.

Good points.

Best bet would be HgH+low dose Test(300mg/week)+Anavar(20-30mg BTG/day)

Fonz
 
actually, most steroids have some effect on the immune system, test probably has the least. Ask your doctor what he suggests, as, most anabolics are obviosly prescribed to people with HIV to prevent muscle wasting. Good luck, hang in there,
 
You could easily get a script for Deca, HGH, Test Cyp and anavar.... Now that would be a nice cycle.
 
Thanks for all the input guys, I have yet to see my HIV specialist, but have my 1st appointment next Monday. I've heard that alot of doctors don't prescirbe AAS for HIV wasting because of inconclusive studies currently underway. Do you guys think it's gonna be that hard for me to get them??

I hate to hear that about the Tren, I've gotten pretty good at making it and its really good shit, but oh well it ain't worth dying over. Hell... it may of been what brought on my first opportunistic infection ( PCP )

Since overtraining I understand is a big problem, I'm hitting every body part just once a week now instead of twice, even with AAS I'm understanding that less is more, I'm probobly gonna have to break myself into that method because truth be told I may have been overtraining for a good while now.

Still waiting to get my copy of " Built to Survive " supposedly one of the best books to read in regards to AAS and HIV.


Thanks Again for the support guys, this board has always been an excellent resource.
 
Great post/question:

***I am not a doctor, and if I were you I'd read all the replies and bounce the good ones off a really good doctor, once you find one.

I do have some experience here that I could share:

1) you have just been diagnosed with HIV, not aids, which means currently your body is trying to fight the virus (some people are able to fight it for years before any drugs are necessary).

2) (not knowing your exact situation) chances are you're not wasting and you actually feel great every day.

3) the fancy bloodwork that I assume is underway, will tell you and your doctor how strong your Immune system is currently, and every 3-4mos from now on as long as you are religious about monitoring.

4) Chances are your immune system is strong as hell if you're in the early stages, and nothing will harm it to the extent of the tricky HIV virus.

5) In my opinion, if the above is correct, juice all you want, within reason,
but remember, I AM NOT A DOCTOR.

Keep your head up bro, HIV is not a death sentance anymore, it's just one more reason to take awesome care of your body and to workout like a mother-fucker!

Good luck.
 
Well " growing "

I did fail to mention that I did just get diagnosed, but it was in the hospital with Pneomo Cystis Pneomonia, and my CD4 count is a frightening 24 !!

I feel fine now and am on a string of heavy antibiotics, to keep other infections at bay until I get started on my retroviral meds, so actually until my CD4 gets back ( which it will ) I have AIDS.

I was one of those procrastinators who didn't find out until I got sick. My workouts are going pretty good, I lost 15 pounds and have gained most all of it back so thats pretty encouraging. Although I am not as strong as I was before, but I've been off the juice since all this happened a month ago, so that I guess is a contributing factor as well.

I just hate being off the juice for too long, as we all no it just isn't the same without it. So I guess its pretty logical to stay away from all AAS until my CD4 count rises above 350, I'm just a as crazy as a nut though without the shit........ Call me a raving lunatic I guess ....
 
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