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I haven't kept up with it lately but the cop should be punished to the full extent from what I read in the beginning. But I wish they'd drop the race BS. It was a crime against citizens in general. Pretty good chance that cop would've shot anyone had the situation played out the same. Screw Al Sharpton.

Pretty shitty they're arresting reporters and media personnel too. Lol @them burning down their own neighborhood though
 
What's ferguson
 
I read there was an altercation and the kid got away and the cop started shooting in his direction as he was running away at which point the kid dropped to his knees with hands in the air and the cop kept shooting, killing him.

Another trigger happy POS. Makes the good cops look bad and hard to trust any of them.
 
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wow.

iv heard two stories.

Kids were walking on the street, officer told them to get on the sidewalk.

other story

He was a "suspect" in a convince store robbery- according to the police though
 
I read there was an altercation and the kid got away and the cop started shooting in his direction as he was running away at which point the kid dropped to his knees with hands in the air and the cop kept shooting, killing him.

Another trigger happy POS. Makes the good cops look bad and hard to trust any of them.
Shit like this will stop happening when all police forces are outfitted with body cameras.

My father was a cop, and I know cops can be assholes but I just find it very hard to believe the guy was surrendering and the cop unloaded, and in a really weird way if you look at the entry wounds and assume Brown had his hands up and was dropping to his knees when he was shot.

Actually, from the way he was shot, it is more in keeping with the officer trying to stop a man running towards him with several non lethal shots to the right arm/chest. It makes more sense.
 
Shit like this will stop happening when all police forces are outfitted with body cameras.

My father was a cop, and I know cops can be assholes but I just find it very hard to believe the guy was surrendering and the cop unloaded, and in a really weird way if you look at the entry wounds and assume Brown had his hands up and was dropping to his knees when he was shot.

Actually, from the way he was shot, it is more in keeping with the officer trying to stop a man running towards him with several non lethal shots to the right arm/chest. It makes more sense.

So you are a racist? is what your are saying?

or just Illiterate ?

Autopsy reports came out today, he was shot 6 times twice in the head. (non lethal shots??)

you are officially bat shit crazy
 
Shit like this will stop happening when all police forces are outfitted with body cameras.

My father was a cop, and I know cops can be assholes but I just find it very hard to believe the guy was surrendering and the cop unloaded, and in a really weird way if you look at the entry wounds and assume Brown had his hands up and was dropping to his knees when he was shot.

Actually, from the way he was shot, it is more in keeping with the officer trying to stop a man running towards him with several non lethal shots to the right arm/chest. It makes more sense.

Is there no way the cop shot him because he thought he could get away with it? Do you think it's normal that he didn't check his pulse or anything?
 
Shit like this will stop happening when all police forces are outfitted with body cameras.

My father was a cop, and I know cops can be assholes but I just find it very hard to believe the guy was surrendering and the cop unloaded, and in a really weird way if you look at the entry wounds and assume Brown had his hands up and was dropping to his knees when he was shot.

Actually, from the way he was shot, it is more in keeping with the officer trying to stop a man running towards him with several non lethal shots to the right arm/chest. It makes more sense.

I just read something that went against most everything I read in the beginning so who knows. It'll all come out eventually I guess.
 
so what's your take on this.

MM is just fucked.

I don't really care,

facts are facts however

2 shots to the head.

my take? i'm a 49 year old white guy in a white collar profession...current conditions aside? the powers that be in ferguson, mo probably like folks like me ;)
 
i got a question for you...what kind of fucking retard robs a convenience store (the film footage is all over the news) and then walks down the middle of the street, blocking traffic and drawing attention to himself???

chances are, someone that arrogant and ignorant was likely to get dead anyway...and yes...i DO sorta feel that way...sorry...i don't have much sympathy for pieces-of-shit that end up dead, regardless of the specifics of their demise.

not excusing the lack of due process...that'll be dealt with. but the dead criminal??? i could give two fucks about him...feed his ass to the worms.
 
i got a question for you...what kind of fucking retard robs a convenience store (the film footage is all over the news) and then walks down the middle of the street, blocking traffic and drawing attention to himself???

chances are, someone that arrogant and ignorant was likely to get dead anyway...and yes...i DO sorta feel that way...sorry...i don't have much sympathy for pieces-of-shit that end up dead, regardless of the specifics of their demise.

not excusing the lack of due process...that'll be dealt with. but the dead criminal??? i could give two fucks about him...feed his ass to the worms.

No, you are right 100%

Percent kid is/was a criminal and ignorant about it.


I really don't care, its just how the cops handled the issue clearly excessive force/ misuse of a firearm.
 
No, you are right 100%

Percent kid is/was a criminal and ignorant about it.


I really don't care, its just how the cops handled the issue clearly excessive force/ misuse of a firearm.

i kinda think that the police officer/shooter is fucked. i love how the city ran out and found a black officer to be their spokesperson...that said? he's doing a pretty good job in what has to be a pretty uncomfortable position.
 
They didn't run out and get him. The Gov. put the MO State Patrol in charge after the white chief of police was fucking everything up and using the swat team on the protestors, and the Captain just so happens to be black.



Fuck off you stupid faggot follow the story and speak eloquently or sit down and shut up.
 
so what's your take on this.

MM is just fucked.

I don't really care,

facts are facts however

2 shots to the head.
I don't give a damn what color the involved parties were, seriously. I'm looking at it purely from a logical perspective. I'm sick to shit of race always coming into play. It's unfortunate that all parties involved weren't the same color.

However, if you'll just think for a minute, assuming you were going to shoot a person who has their arms raised and is not moving, and your intention is to kill or seriously wound your victim, and you're within 100 feet of them, and trained to shoot a weapon, then you aren't going to place three shots in the arm, one in the shoulder, then nail the individual in the eye and top of their head.

All the bullet wounds are entry, there are no exit wounds. All the shots hit the front of his body.

Take a look at the autopsy sketch:

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If Brown was surrendering and the cop wanted to unload on him, why shoot down his arm, to his shoulder then hit him in the eye? Why not hit the torso, an easier target? If the man had his arms raised why didn't they drop after the first shot? Why didn't he move his other arm to protect himself?

If he had been stopped or kneeling at the time of the eye shot, wouldn't the force of the eye shot have thrown his body backwards so the top of the head shot wouldn't be able to occur unless the cop was standing over the man.

If that cop could hit him in the eye he surely could have hit him in the heart as well. I think he shot him on the right side to stop him, Brown kept moving towards him, he killed him.

The uncle is saying a gunshot occurred when Brown and the officer were actually physically in contact, we already know that didn't happen since there are no powder burns or stippling.

And BTW, even if this is a racially motivated murder, how does that justify "protests" that take the form of looting and burning? One bad cop means it's open season for mobs to assault other cops and trash local businesses?
 
Is there no way the cop shot him because he thought he could get away with it? Do you think it's normal that he didn't check his pulse or anything?
No, I actually don't, for a couple of reasons:
1. A shooting ALWAYS means an investigation and shooting someone who hasn't shot at you first ALWAYS looks very, very, very bad.

2. Why risk flushing your career and possibly freedom to murder someone you don't even know?

3. If the cop was just out to be a murdering racist then why didn't he kill anyone else who was watching, like the friend who was walking with Brown at the time the police told them to get out of the street to begin with?

The incident makes no sense the way the witnesses are describing it, a young man and his friend are walking down the street, the cops tell them to get out of the street and onto the sidewalk. Instead of saying "Sorry, Officer" and complying, Brown decides to tell the cop his destination and that he's only going to be in the street for a few more minutes ... REALLY?

Who tells a cop they'll only be a few more minutes doing what they've been told by an officer of the law to stop doing? A cop says get out of the street, you say yes sir, sorry about that and MOVE YOUR ASS.
 
They didn't run out and get him. The Gov. put the MO State Patrol in charge after the white chief of police was fucking everything up and using the swat team on the protestors, and the Captain just so happens to be black.



Fuck off you stupid faggot follow the story and speak eloquently or sit down and shut up.

can i uncle tom??? :lmao:
 
What difference does it make that he stole some cigars?

A TON of teenagers steal those cigars. I'm willing to be that either one of your teenage kids or one of your daughter's teenage boyfriends will do the exact same thing. Oh, and they will also walk down the middle of the street like they own the world. Because they are teenagers. They thumb their nose at authority and think they're invincible.

It's not robbery either. It's like petty theft.
 
No, I actually don't, for a couple of reasons:
1. A shooting ALWAYS means an investigation and shooting someone who hasn't shot at you first ALWAYS looks very, very, very bad.

2. Why risk flushing your career and possibly freedom to murder someone you don't even know?

3. If the cop was just out to be a murdering racist then why didn't he kill anyone else who was watching, like the friend who was walking with Brown at the time the police told them to get out of the street to begin with?

The incident makes no sense the way the witnesses are describing it, a young man and his friend are walking down the street, the cops tell them to get out of the street and onto the sidewalk. Instead of saying "Sorry, Officer" and complying, Brown decides to tell the cop his destination and that he's only going to be in the street for a few more minutes ... REALLY?

Who tells a cop they'll only be a few more minutes doing what they've been told by an officer of the law to stop doing? A cop says get out of the street, you say yes sir, sorry about that and MOVE YOUR ASS.


I cannot put myself into the shoes of the cop because I can barely manage a gun. The only person I can empathize with is the kid. Or possibly his mom. I believe what they say about their experience as African Americans and not being treated the same by the police as white people. Almost all of them say they have this experience. Why don't we want to believe them?
 
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He shoved the store owner, and then motioned towards him like he was going to assault him.


Hardly petty shoplifting.
 
What difference does it make that he stole some cigars?

A TON of teenagers steal those cigars. I'm willing to be that either one of your teenage kids or one of your daughter's teenage boyfriends will do the exact same thing. Oh, and they will also walk down the middle of the street like they own the world. Because they are teenagers. They thumb their nose at authority and think they're invincible.

It's not robbery either. It's like petty theft.

his parent(s) didn't care enough about him to raise him to be a citizen instead of a (dead) thug, piece-of-shit...so why do you care?

petty theft and robbery are two different things...if the indian/pakistani shopkeeper had capped him when the asshole assaulted him in his store, would we even be talking about this??

and, it's not the "thumbing your nose at authority" thing...it's the chain of events...

1) steal cigars

b) assault shopkeeper

iii) walk down the middle of the street causing a disruption and attracting attention to yourself WHEN YOU KNOW FULL WELL THAT THE SHOPKEEPER CALLED THE POLICE AND NOW THEY ARE LOOKING FOR YOU.

that's not bullshit, childhood behavior and shouldn't be written off as such.
 
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I cannot put myself into the shoes of the cop because I can barely manage a gun. The only person I can empathize with is the kid. Or possibly his mom. I believe what they say about their experience as African Americans and not being treated the same by the police as white people. Almost all of them say they have this experience. Why don't want to believe them?
Probably has something to do with the fact I've lived my entire life in the Philly suburbs. The city of brotherly love doesn't exactly live up to it's name.

My sympathies lie with the law enforcement officers, sorry. I'm a mother, too, and I raised my son to treat the police the same way I do: Respect the uniform. They're fellow humans trying to do a hard but necessary job who generally only see the crappy side of people. Don't make an already tough job any harder by giving them the slightest hint of an attitude.
 
How about you take a look at the sketch, cuz it says right at the top about an exit wound that re-entered.
My main point was the cop didn't shoot the guy in the back, which is what a lot of people seem to be under the impression happened.

A pathologist is only responsible for determining the cause and manner of death. Cause is gunshot to the head. Manner has yet to be determined.
 
his parent(s) didn't care enough about him to raise him to be a citizen instead of a (dead) thug, piece-of-shit...so why do you care?

petty theft and robbery are two different things...if the indian/pakistani shopkeeper had capped him when the asshole assaulted him in his store, would we even be talking about this??

and, it's not the "thumbing your nose at authority" thing...it's the chain of events...

1) steal cigars

b) assault shopkeeper

iii) walk down the middle of the street causing a disruption and attracting attention to yourself WHEN YOU KNOW FULL WELL THAT THE SHOPKEEPER CALLED THE POLICE AND NOW THEY ARE LOOKING FOR YOU.

that's not bullshit, childhood behavior and shouldn't be written off as such.

yes, stealing cigars, grabbing pushing and shoving others and walking down the middle of the street is male teenage behavior. And the police don't give a fuck about the cigars or someone being shoved and pushed around that wasn't injured. They weren't looking for anyone. This cop didn't even know about the convenience store issue.
 
yes, stealing cigars, grabbing pushing and shoving others and walking down the middle of the street is male teenage behavior. And the police don't give a fuck about the cigars or someone being shoved and pushed around that wasn't injured. They weren't looking for anyone. This cop didn't even know about the convenience store issue.

theft combined with assault are not normal, teenage boy behavior in the house that i grew up in and they are not normal teenage boy behavior in the house that my son is growing up in...so we will agree to disagree on that point.

my other point is that this piece of shit was headed down a road (yes, i am speculating a bit based on the behavior observed in the video) that would eventually result in something bad happening to him...if you ask for it often enough, eventually you'll get it.

what the police officer did? we don't know the whole story yet but it sounds like it was likely unjustified and if so, he'll be up shit creek without a paddle.
 
Normal teenage behavior? Where?

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This assault only fits one of the 5 criteria for assault in MO which is: knowingly causing physical contact with another person knowing it will be considered offensive by the other person. It's lower than a DUI as a misdemeanor.

How many people have you assaulted Mitch? You've done worse things than this, especially as a teenager.
 
This assault only fits one of the 5 criteria for assault in MO which is: knowingly causing physical contact with another person knowing it will be considered offensive by the other person. It's lower than a DUI as a misdemeanor.

How many people have you assaulted Mitch? You've done worse things than this, especially as a teenager.

you know what I didn't do?


act like a shit head when someone with a gun confronted me either.



Like it or not, police officers are human and most have shit training (proven fact) with firearms. Doesn't take a genius not to escalate a situation with another human you don't know that's carrying a firearm, now does it?
 
This assault only fits one of the 5 criteria for assault in MO which is: knowingly causing physical contact with another person knowing it will be considered offensive by the other person. It's lower than a DUI as a misdemeanor.

How many people have you assaulted Mitch? You've done worse things than this, especially as a teenager.

even when it's combined with another criminal act, like, oh, theft for instance??? suppose the guy had stood his ground because he knew that he had glock tucked in a holster on his back, got stroked in the face and came up bleeding...and shooting?? now this same asshat is dead, but the circumstances are different...are we still debating this??
 
you know what I didn't do?


act like a shit head when someone with a gun confronted me either.



Like it or not, police officers are human and most have shit training (proven fact) with firearms. Doesn't take a genius not to escalate a situation with another human you don't know that's carrying a firearm, now does it?

No, it doesn't. But we don't know what happened if he escalated the situation with the police officer. All we have is someone who is friends with the police officer's girlfriend telling what she heard and ignoring eye witness testimony...pry cuz they're black and untrustworthy
 
and at least 2 "eye witnesses" that have completely different stories.



What we have is video of him before the incident acting like a complete shit head with total disregard. Probably a safe bet he acted similarly with the officer.



I'm not saying the officer was right, i'm saying this punk bitch didn't help his own situation out.
 
I spent 2 years of my life in the police academy and I can say, without a doubt, that all patrol officers are dumb, inbred hicks with very little training given to them. And, that little bit of training is all taught by older versions of the same inbred hicks.
 
I spent 2 years of my life in the police academy and I can say, without a doubt, that all patrol officers are dumb, inbred hicks with very little training given to them. And, that little bit of training is all taught by older versions of the same inbred hicks.
What the heck were you doing there?

Because I know you weren't attending the academy, no cop courses run two years. I dated a state trooper while he was going to the academy, it's something like a six month course.
 
What the heck were you doing there?

Because I know you weren't attending the academy, no cop courses run two years. I dated a state trooper while he was going to the academy, it's something like a six month course.

It's the police science program. Get your AA and become a cop in about 18 months.
 
It's the police science program. Get your AA and become a cop in about 18 months.
No kidding, what's the difference between that and going to something like the state trooper academy, or do ex-military get to test out and take a shorter course or something?

God, I dated that guy 31 years ago :worried:
 
No kidding, what's the difference between that and going to something like the state trooper academy, or do ex-military get to test out and take a shorter course or something?

God, I dated that guy 31 years ago :worried:

Normal police academy doesn't come with any type of college education. It's just a crash course on laws, driving, motorcycles and guns.

Also, regular academies are becoming scarce, and most have moved into some sort of college program.
 
Normal police academy doesn't come with any type of college education. It's just a crash course on laws, driving, motorcycles and guns.

Also, regular academies are becoming scarce, and most have moved into some sort of college program.
Ahhh, okay, makes sense now.

PA state troopers actually still have a 27 week course (I got curious and Googled it).

Hm, learn something new everyday.

So after two years, you didn't go into any aspect of law enforcement?
 
Ahhh, okay, makes sense now.

PA state troopers actually still have a 27 week course (I got curious and Googled it).

Hm, learn something new everyday.

So after two years, you didn't go into any aspect of law enforcement?

Newp. I could barely stand being around these dumb-asses who constantly spoke about changing the world and making a difference. I think I was the only person there who new I'd make shit money, sitting on a motorcycle and writing tickets for the next 20 years.
 
Newp. I could barely stand being around these dumb-asses who constantly spoke about changing the world and making a difference. I think I was the only person there who new I'd make shit money, sitting on a motorcycle and writing tickets for the next 20 years.

*knew
 
I don't understand how you fucking idiots have the time to create alters. I'm seriously very pissed off right now
 
I don't understand how you fucking idiots have the time to create alters. I'm seriously very pissed off right now

are you calling me a fucking idiot?

What is so hard to understand? It takes 7 seconds to register, so is it incredibly difficult for your mind to figure out how someone might have 7 free seconds?
 
What's with the lynched stuffed animals?

No clue, I don't watch the news on tv. I get most of the news from twitter, or radio news

I do have a video of a cop telling a livestreamer he was gonna kill him while he pointed a rifle at him, all kinds of video of the police acting like lowlifes
 
are you calling me a fucking idiot?



What is so hard to understand? It takes 7 seconds to register, so is it incredibly difficult for your mind to figure out how someone might have 7 free seconds?


I was kidding :( look at my post count hahah
 
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