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We shall not flag nor fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France and on the seas and oceans; we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old. .
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next time i make a sardonic quip, ill let you know in advance so taht you can look up and see it going over your headAristotleBC said:
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GoldenDelicious said:
I think the whole point everyone is trying to make to you is now is not the time for sardonic quips when people just died and a nation was attacked. Its significant, these things mean something to people. Why you might ask? Thats the point, that its a question that no one is going to answer for you. It comes from understanding sociology and anthropology, symbols, myths, history, life in general etc...
They are saying that you dont know these subjects or else you wouldnt have said something like that at this time, basically they are calling you dumb. See how simple it is, just trying to be your interpreter
Dont get mad though, I like you bor, Im just the messenger, people are going to get mad if you say things like that, duh,
but you knew that already didnt you, that was the whole point in saying it
EDIT lol, since you read it and responded before I deleted my rant Ill put it back up
Originally Posted by GoldenDelicious people die everyday. people are dying daily in similar circumstances in afghanistan, and people here say nothing. people die daily in iraq from similar circumstances, and people say nothing. it seems to me that, according to many here, the distance between our cultures is more important than our similarity as human beings, for the deaths of those thousands of people off camera are not nearly as meaningful as the british who died yesterday, and as such, behaving solomnly for the brits and not the iraqis/afghans, to me, is vile, and i will speak of the motivating factors behind these events as i will.
people died. its sad. its terrible....but not as sad and terrible as the idea taht it will happen again, and again and again and again, until people wake the fuck up, stop letting their emotions control them, and find the root cause of what is going on around them, so that they will not be the pawns of uncaring governments, or the sheep of corporations.
are you offering, bitchboy?
No need to tell me that people die man, I see it everyday, I look at people's hearts, I look inside of the with ultrasound and actually see what their heart looks like. I know instantly if they are going to live or die based on all Ive studied, their ejection fraction they have a 50% chance of mortality in a year or the next six months, three months, week, that day and/or they are completely fucked. I know this and then I look in their eye and I know what emotions are, I know what people are thinking, what the family is thinking, I know the questions they ask, I know what its like to see a heart stop and fill up with a clot b/c it isnt beating and no one is doing cpr on it b/c its a no code. Its forever etched in my mind seeing that swirl of blood clotting in the heart and a person takes their last look around on this planet. Do you know what its like to see someone die?? You ever looked into the eyes of someone that knows they are going to die soon?
Well if you ever do and you need to comfort and care for them and alleviate their feelings of coming to their end, I hope you show a lil bit more *compassion* than you are right now.
Its about empathy, its about putting yourself in another person's shoes, fuck professional distance, its about being HUMAN for once. Sure people die everyday, but you are missing the significance of it all. You sit in your freedom and say these things b/c you have that selfish luxury and you put down people who put their lives on the line and fight for something they beleive in trying to change a shithole and track down killers that want to kill you and your family. They are real and when it happens to Australians then you might understand what the fuck we are all talking about. OH Wait, it did happen to Australians, remember Bali bombings, well what do you have to say about that?? Are you consistent in your own mind with what you say? Should they track down the people and organizations that did that and want to do it again?? If your answer is no the reason why is b/c you are not being true intellectually on all of this be it lack of understanding of how the world works, geopolitics, history, why wars are waged. The US was attacked, embassy bombings, the first WTC, they declared war on US! Not the other way around and Saddam Hussein's fingerprints were all over the first WTC attack, read up on it, Im quoting James Woolsey former CIA director, all you need to do GD is read and educate yourself on these things so you dont have to resort to being an ass in your posts crying out for someone to explain all of this to you.
Doing nothing after the first WTC, the embassy bombings in africa, the USS Cole etc... doing nothing no longer worked. Thank God we have a President that its willing to go after the evildoers and when someone you know or love is killed by these men and their idealogy, then that would be karma for you God Forbid.
You best get your ass and your head wired together
Pogue Colonel: Marine, what is that button on your body armor?
Private Joker: A peace symbol, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Where'd you get it?
Private Joker: I don't remember, sir.
Pogue Colonel: What is that you've got written on your helmet?
Private Joker: "Born to Kill", sir.
Pogue Colonel: You write "Born to Kill" on your helmet and you wear a peace button. What's that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke?
Private Joker: No, sir.
Pogue Colonel: You'd better get your head and your ass wired together, or I will take a giant shit on you.
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Now answer my question or you'll be standing tall before the man.
Private Joker: I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir.
Pogue Colonel: The what?
Private Joker: The duality of man. The Jungian thing, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Whose side are you on, son?
Private Joker: Our side, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Don't you love your country?
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Son, all I've ever asked of my marines is that they obey my orders as they would the word of God. We are here to help the Vietnamese, because inside every gook there is an American trying to get out. It's a hardball world, son. We've gotta keep our heads until this peace craze blows over.
Private Joker: Aye-aye, sir.
People died, are you a leader? No? What if you messed up giving the wrong medication to a person filling their prescription and they died, your action resulted in the death of a person. Do you know what that death looks like? I do, Bush does, have you stood on Ground Zero? Have you had to stand their with a bullhorn saying to a whole troubled nation what needed to be said. How would that feel having to me that one man with that responsibility. Can you fathom that?? You would have to have that responsibility of knowing your decisions will cost lives and save lives. Do you take pride in your work, do you take your job seriously? If you do then how can you sit and judge Bush and say he isnt taking it seriously? All of the people who dedicate their lives to intelligence of knowing what these murderers are planning and they take their jobs just as seriously as you do. Yet you sit in judgement, what if I sat in judgement of you misfilling a prescription, are you perfect? Do you think youve never made a mistake? Is that it?
Bush and these people believe in their heart that they are doing the right thing, what fault can you find with that. THey do the best they can given the limits of the information that is available to them, classified information. Until you have access to that classified information then dont give us this fucking bullshit that the US blew up London and killed these people. You know why, b/c you are too afraid, too scared of the truth. That these people are real, Zarqawi is alive coordinating attacks from Iraq, he is in touch with Osama Bin Laden. They are flesh and blood, pinch yourself so you know that you are real and that these people are real and they want to cut your head off. Leave your little island of insanity and venture out into the real world, go to an islamic country and see if they dont kill you b/c they think you are an infidel. You think that they stay over there, that they just stay in their lil region of the world like you do? They dont, we live in the new world, they can hop a plane and fly anywhere in the world, they have networks set up, they have islamic sympathizers like you all over the world willing to help them out. They go and they murder people, people like those killed in the world trade center attacks, people in the embassy bombings, people in Bali Nightclubs, soldiers on the USS Cole, civilians in Iraq with carbombs, soldiers fighting and dying their to hunt down these terrorists. Its all real man, cant you see that? Are you so blind with your hatred for Bush and the US and the American way of life that you dont see it and say that the US killed these people in London. Im telling you this, you are wrong. Some people dont want to take the time to explain it to you so they just call you an asshole or whatever and you like that. What Im sure you dont like is losing an argument but when you fuck up and kill someone at work then you'll know what its like to know that your action has a consequence and then you can blame Bush or the US b/c your mind was too cluttered b/c you are trying to read and study how the world works. Trying using that excuse then, until then STFU already and keep your vitriolic hate speech that the US or Great Britain killed these people, its not a sardonic quip, it represents what your soul wants to expose, that you have hate in your heart. That is not something to laugh at or for someone here to find amusing. Its perverse and sick.
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GoldenDelicious said:
stick your dick in one
and listen to lucias
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people die everyday. people are dying daily in similar circumstances in afghanistan, and people here say nothing. people die daily in iraq from similar circumstances, and people say nothing. it seems to me that, according to many here, the distance between our cultures is more important than our similarity as human beings, for the deaths of those thousands of people off camera are not nearly as meaningful as the british who died yesterday, and as such, behaving solomnly for the brits and not the iraqis/afghans, to me, is vile, and i will speak of the motivating factors behind these events as i will.luciasbrown said:I think the whole point everyone is trying to make to you is now is not the time for sardonic quips when people just died and a nation was attacked. Its significant, these things mean something to people. Why you might ask? Thats the point, that its a question that no one is going to answer for you. It comes from understanding sociology and anthropology, symbols, myths, history, life in general etc...
They are saying that you dont know these subjects or else you wouldnt have said something like that at this time, basically they are calling you dumb. See how simple it is, just trying to be your interpreter
Dont get mad though, I like you bor, Im just the messenger, people are going to get mad if you say things like that, duh,
but you knew that already didnt you, that was the whole point in saying it
people died. its sad. its terrible....but not as sad and terrible as the idea taht it will happen again, and again and again and again, until people wake the fuck up, stop letting their emotions control them, and find the root cause of what is going on around them, so that they will not be the pawns of uncaring governments, or the sheep of corporations.
are you offering, bitchboy?AristotleBC said:
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May your GOD of faith bless you, them and all those that don't wish to perish in an equally pointless and violent way.
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GoldenDelicious said:
You make a valid point here fuckwit
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