Experience with Proline Labrotories (please help)

[Focused Individual]

Bro's, this is my second post on this subject, I'd really appreciate it if I got as many replies as possible. I'm going to break it down to a few questions,

I Have Test prop, 200 mg/ml made my proline. I was told it was human grade, and real good gear, I already heard there's no way it can be human grade because it is made by an underground labortory. I also hear that people are saying they never heard of 200 mg/ml concentrate Prop.

1. I shoot 150 mg eod in my shoulders. I did my second shot today, and now I have two very sore shoulders. While the first shoulder I did (the right) is starting to feel just a lilttle better, the left one is starting to hurt like hell. It hurts to the point I cannot pick up my arms. Also, on the right arm, between the shoulder and tri, it is very swollen, also on the shoulder. I'm guessing this is going to happen on the left. So the question is, is this normal? And if it is, is this going to go away and stop hurting soon?

2. Is proline gear any good like the kid told me it was. The kid doesn't really seem like one to BS too much, but who knows. Anyone with experience with proline gear I'd apprecaite it if you shared it with me, ESPECIALLY if you had an expeirence with the prop.

3. I thought doing test would make me feel good. Ive been feeling very shitty today and yesterday.

4. Gotta ask one more this if this pain is going to go away. I do fencing, it is going to be hell to go to work tomorrow and have to lift heavy things. I lifting today (chest day), it was hell. If this pain isn't going to go away I'm going to give up on it.

Bro's I'd really appreciate alot of replies, I really need help. I dont really have any where else to go and find out, so I'd appreciate your guys help. I've been training for 4 years. This is really my first cycle, other than doin winny for 3 weeks at 50 mg eod. That ended about 3 weeks ago. My cycle is

1-10- Prop- 450mg/wk
5-10 winny- 50mg/eod

Thanks bro's, all help is appreciated, sorry for the long post.

 

[Focused Individual]

By the way, when I say feeling like shit, i've been having headaches like crazy and been feeling very very tired. Also, if this test is dosed in correctly, is it possible I'm doin too much for a beginner? Or not enough? I'm doin .75 ml eod. Thanks bro's.

 

[SofaGeorge]

I've seen ZERO lab tests on Proline... and without a lab test any response as to quality is pure BS.

 

[drrman]

i won't go into this, most here know my thoughts on "underground gear" all i can say is underground is synonymous with dirty in my book, and i've never heard anyone complaining about anything with real human grade gear!!

 

[Focused Individual]

Thanks, but how about the pain and everything? Is it normal? How about feeling like shit the last two days. I'd appreciate the help. Bump for more replies.

 

[drrman]

yeh, pain from prop is normal, feeling like shit, well not for me, if this is your first time for gear then maybe that could be normal, but for most thats not the case. Your gear may be legit or dosed accurately, im not calling it garbage, i just don't understand why people put anything into their bodies with a needle from "underground"

 

[Focused Individual]

Never really knew it was underground until today. I was told it proline was human grade shit. As a matter the fact, I was told it was so good that I shouldn't feel any pain from the injections. If this pain is normal how do people workout and go on with they're normal lives? Bump for more replies. Please help. Thanks bros

 

[Focused Individual]

bump for more replies, please. Will the pain go away, thats the biggest question, although all are important to me.

 

[drrman]

pain from test injections is VERY normal, especially prop. Take you an advil and live through it!! it should not be that bad everytime you take it, usually your body gets used to it

 

[totti28]

Bro, I stay away from all underground products as well as Mexican bathtub roids. My only exception is equipoise which is from a trusted lab in Holland. High quality human grade is the only way to go.

 

[khemix]

Focused...search for my post on Injection Pain. It will explain to you a good way to help get rid of the soarness post injection. I just ordered 2 bottles of test enth and a bottle of tren, so i will let you know in a week of two.

Chris

 

[Focused Individual]

I appreciate all of the replies bro's. Bump for more. Thanks.

 

[corv1]

Seems everone is bashing proline. I got some 500mg enanthate and 50mg water based winny. Just started the winny the enanthate is great. In the past I've done the eq and it was great. Its true I never saw a test result but if my body is an example it works great. The kicker is the owner is a good guy always updating ect. If that is any example of the way he does business it is a good one. On some other boards alot of guys use alot of proline and I've only heard a couple issues but 90% really bump it.

 

[Payphone_Johnny]

Lab tests? Ok that point makes sense but the other people on here whining about 'human grade only' are elitist snobs. Sorry but if something is properly dosed and sterile then 'human grade' doesn't mean shit.
If anyone has a supressed immune system-such as an individual with HIV,ect. then I can understand and fully appreciate only wanting to use products expressly made for human consumption or better yet domestic Rx items.
Otherwise its in your mindset-it's not like you are living in a plastic bubble and get a staph infection if you skin your knee playing softball. If I have raw boldenone undecylenate or test enanthate and convert it myself-running it thru 0.2 micron filter (also with BA and BB) and then autoclave it how the hell is an ICN or Testoviron any better than what I have?
I can't see how-if a bacteria count shows up negative (which they have) and the stuff is right on (doseage wise) I can'[t see where anyone has leg to stand on in favor of overpriced 'human grade'.
Waste your money if you want.

 

[Focused Individual]

Bro's just woke up, have to tell ya, my left shoulder isn't half as bad as the right was the first shot I took. And I wasn't bashing proline, simply trying to know what I am taking. Today I actually woke up feeling kind of good. Only a little pain I can deal with in my shoulder, which was expected. Thanks for all the help bro's.

 

[drrman]

Lab tests? Ok that point makes sense but the other people on here whining about 'human grade only' are elitist snobs. Sorry but if something is properly dosed and sterile then 'human grade' doesn't mean shit.
If anyone has a supressed immune system-such as an individual with HIV,ect. then I can understand and fully appreciate only wanting to use products expressly made for human consumption or better yet domestic Rx items.
Otherwise its in your mindset-it's not like you are living in a plastic bubble and get a staph infection if you skin your knee playing softball. If I have raw boldenone undecylenate or test enanthate and convert it myself-running it thru 0.2 micron filter (also with BA and BB) and then autoclave it how the hell is an ICN or Testoviron any better than what I have?
I can't see how-if a bacteria count shows up negative (which they have) and the stuff is right on (doseage wise) I can'[t see where anyone has leg to stand on in favor of overpriced 'human grade'.
Waste your money if you want.

Im an elitist "snob" because i don't like underground gear? i've been here for almost 5 years, i was here 2 when the server went down and i had to re-register in 2000. So, im speaking on the fact that over those 5 years i've seen NUMEROUS underground labs come and go, all end up going away on a bad note? Do this for me, name one underground lab that has been in business for over 2 years? i don't think you can, and EYE PEE doesn't count as a lab, thats more like a mess hall of powders.

 

[thetruth12]

Focused I took proline 200mg prop awhile back and had flu-like symptoms for 3 days after every shot.... I stopped after my 4th shot because I couldn't stand feeling like shit... Also experienced terrible injection site pain... I've taken many different kinds of test, including T-400 and Jurox suspension and never got sick or had that much injection site pain.... I personally don't use his gear anymore, but many love it....

TheTruth

 

[Payphone_Johnny]

Im an elitist "snob" because i don't like underground gear? i've been here for almost 5 years, i was here 2 when the server went down and i had to re-register in 2000. So, im speaking on the fact that over those 5 years i've seen NUMEROUS underground labs come and go, all end up going away on a bad note? Do this for me, name one underground lab that has been in business for over 2 years? i don't think you can, and EYE PEE doesn't count as a lab, thats more like a mess hall of powders.

UG labs are OK and usually tank because of supply and legal problems and IP-well my IP tabs have been OK but the injects are too dicey sometimes with their doseages and are loaded with BA.
Summation: MY point is that the raw materials are NOT inherently expensive and by making it yourself you control the quality.
Even if you are paying $5 for 250mg of test thats $25/gm for something worth about $8/gm domestically and YOU YOURSELF control the quality. People who want Organon,Schering ect are getting good products but are paying for a name as well.
How many people do you know that autoclave their finished product get sick let alone the ones who just use simple chems and a 0.45 micron filter. Otherwise Fina users would be in abcess hell right now.
I like juice but I am not going to spend more than I have to 'get human grade' just to make myself think I am getting quality or to sleep better at night.

 

[atlas2003]

proline

i do not think anybody on this board should knock anything they have not used. the guy is a good bro with great products. i have used his deca, enth, EQ, winny and tren/prop all great products. the guy does not make muscular development two months in a row and not be good. check out this months MD and they are testing his products for those who are knocking his gear. and some of his products hurt more than others but after about two shots you have no pain.

 

[dish_bizkit]

I am on his EQ 500mg/ml and Prop 400mg/ml. The EQ is awesome, great pumps and awesome veins, I am on my 8th week of my 10 weeker I started my cycle at 178 lbs and now I've gained about 10lbs of quality muscle. The Prop is very painful so I cut it, I do 100mg EOD and I cut it with steril oil like this: 1 part prop 3 parts oil, so EOD my prop/oil injections are little over 1cc. I inject the EQ once a week every monday 1cc (500mg). I am very happy with the ProLine and the product, I know many other bros that swear by the stuff (bros at Meso, Anabolix, Steroidology use it). Great guy, great prices and fast shipment. I sent cash on a Monday, he shipped it on tuesday, sent me a tracking number and I had my package in my hands on Friday that same week. I wanna tell you bro, Prop is painfull so If you can get some steril oil and cut it down. I have no pain at all once I did that. For my next cycle I am getting ProLine EQ 500mg/ml, ProLine Test Enth 500mg/ml, ProLine Tren 100mg/ml and ProLine Winny 50mg/ml. I will start that in September.

I am sure that some brand name human grade gear is pobably the best way to go, but some of us aren't lucky enough to have a reliable source for that. IMO what ProLine has to offer is the next best thing at a great price.

Good Luck Bro!
Good Luck Bro

 

[CavaCA]

I also use Prolines test prop, 400mg/ml, it was very very painful the first 2 weeks but your body gets used to it. I also cut the oil , 1part prop, 3 parts sterile oil, also warm it under hot water and take ibruprofen, this really helps. The pain and swelling your experiencing is normal. I like the products and the service is solid, my cycle is going well and I'm getting the results I'm looking for. My 2 cents.

 

[drago01]

Im an elitist "snob" because i don't like underground gear? i've been here for almost 5 years, i was here 2 when the server went down and i had to re-register in 2000. So, im speaking on the fact that over those 5 years i've seen NUMEROUS underground labs come and go, all end up going away on a bad note? Do this for me, name one underground lab that has been in business for over 2 years? i don't think you can, and EYE PEE doesn't count as a lab, thats more like a mess hall of powders.

ill name one. RSOC(red star of china). been around for multiple years making good gear. solid bro that works to keep all involved safe and always comes through. made the best tren i have ever used. its a shame he discontinued it.

 

[oubeta]

WHat about Golden Triangle Pharmaceuticals in China?
I posted a post today but it got deleted..WTF?

 

[gotgame83]

Proline is great quality gear. I have seen dirty QV things before as well as some UG that i refer to as "bath tub juice". But proline gear is nothing like those other UG. His 400mg/ml prop does cauz a little bit of pain but his 200mg/ml shouldnt be that bad. If you want to read a lot of personal experiences with proline gear head over to the meso board.

 

[Juice Authority]

ill name one. RSOC(red star of china). been around for multiple years making good gear. solid bro that works to keep all involved safe and always comes through. made the best tren i have ever used. its a shame he discontinued it.

The guy behind RSOC leaves a lot to be desired from what I heard. Do a search on RSOC and you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

[Juice Authority]

bump for more replies, please. Will the pain go away, thats the biggest question, although all are important to me.

I just posted a thread about this.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=244392

The pain is due to a high BA content. Proline claims to have as high as 500mg's/ml on their Enan and EQ. They claim to make a Prop that's 400mg's/ml. Since there haven't been any lab reports posted on his products it's hard to say one way or the other. As far as the difference between Vet gear and human gear I wouldn't get all hung up in that since the difference is negligible. The main issue here is whether or not the mg dosage Proline advertises is accurate. Many feel it's underdosed but no one can say for sure until someone takes the initiative to get a lab test done.

 

[gotgame83]

Proline is able to make such high concentrations by using his own developed solvent.(which he wont tell any one how he makes it)

yes in most gear the BA would have to be so high to get 400mg/ml. T-400 comes to mind, ouch. however he is not using the BA for its solubilty properties but more for maintaining its sterility. I believe his products contain .9% BA. Some people claim that its underdose because after doing a calf shot of 500mg/ml they can still walk so there best deduction is it must be underdose. However many experiences bros have used it with great gains and minimal pain. And he doesnt say the prop is painless but the EQ. enanthate and lots of his other gear are.

 

[atlas2003]

i was talking to proline last month about making MD. he said they are supposed to have his gear tested in this months issue.

 

[drago01]

The guy behind RSOC leaves a lot to be desired from what I heard. Do a search on RSOC and you'll see what I'm talking about.

from what you heard? i dont have to do a search because i am extremely familiar with his line. i have used and will contunue to use some of his products personally. look, my point is that its idiotic to make a blanket statement such as "all underground labs make shitty gear" or whatever was said. it simply isnt true. there are good ones out there but like everything, a few bad apples gives everyone a bad name.

 

[speedy7]

Is this thread on RSOC or Proline? LOL

 

[Juice Authority]

from what you heard? i dont have to do a search because i am extremely familiar with his line. i have used and will contunue to use some of his products personally. look, my point is that its idiotic to make a blanket statement such as "all underground labs make shitty gear" or whatever was said. it simply isnt true. there are good ones out there but like everything, a few bad apples gives everyone a bad name.

Agreed but RSOC is not a good example of that.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

from what you heard? i dont have to do a search because i am extremely familiar with his line. i have used and will contunue to use some of his products personally. look, my point is that its idiotic to make a blanket statement such as "all underground labs make shitty gear" or whatever was said. it simply isnt true. there are good ones out there but like everything, a few bad apples gives everyone a bad name.

RSOC is golden. He had one bad incident a few years ago where his Masteron was tren and this was due to a screw up at the lab where he contacted it out to. He was unaware that it was tren and I seriously doubt that he would try to pass it off as suck knowingly.

I use all of his products with great success. The tren is awesome to say the least.

 

[Burgboy]

his shit is the real deal.....very good gear!

 

[SofaGeorge]

Proline is able to make such high concentrations by using his own developed solvent.(which he wont tell any one how he makes it)

that is the biggest line of crap I've read all year.


If someone developed a solvent that would allow higher concentration solutions... he'd be sitting on a billion dollar formula.

 

[gotgame83]

Well then there isnt any other way to jusify how he can can make such high concentration gear. Many people have used his gear with outstanding results and without pain.

If it was underdosed to the extent that it wasnt painful anymore more people would complain about lack of results using his gear, which isnt the case. Now personally i would like to know atleast the ingrediants in the solvent not even how he combines them, but hey to each his own.

I plan on doing a enanthate only cycle with proLINE gear so ill keep all inquiring minds updated on the potency.