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Erection issue whilst on TRT

jassdhali

jassdhali

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Currently on TRT sustanon100 every week - into my third month and my fella is coming up but not for very long, could it be that the sustanon in these quantities aint doing it for me anymore. The only thing I have started doing different training wise is cut cardio to 3 days and replaced with 2 days of moderate lifting.
Did speak to my doc and he wants to put me on Viagra, which isnt really getting to the root of my problem.
 
I've always read an average man makes 75 mgs/week of his own test -- but that's not the same as an ester. It's not the same release, same mg-for-mg potency, etc. etc.

So my first guess is your dose is a tad low low... maybe you need 125 mg/week.

But it could be a different problem: Are you taking any anti-estrogens? If its three months in, you might have a slight aromitization problem that's building-up your estrogen levels. If you're feeling a little bloated and puffy (i.e. like you just ate a little something that didn't agree with your gut) then that could be your problem.

Also... did your libido go crazy about a month into TRT? If you felt a big bump then, that would support the estrogen build-up idea.
 
jassdhali said:
Currently on TRT sustanon100 every week - into my third month and my fella is coming up but not for very long, could it be that the sustanon in these quantities aint doing it for me anymore. The only thing I have started doing different training wise is cut cardio to 3 days and replaced with 2 days of moderate lifting.
Did speak to my doc and he wants to put me on Viagra, which isnt really getting to the root of my problem.
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How much T you using?

-Pp
 
FunFun said:
It was good info you provided though...thanks!
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I've done HRT under an MD's care since I was 36 -- I'm 40 now.

In terms of anti-aging, consider HGH before testosterone. Year-round HGH combined with one or two mild testosterone cycles per year will do wonders.
 
jassdhali said:
Currently on TRT sustanon100 every week - into my third month and my fella is coming up but not for very long, could it be that the sustanon in these quantities aint doing it for me anymore. The only thing I have started doing different training wise is cut cardio to 3 days and replaced with 2 days of moderate lifting.
Did speak to my doc and he wants to put me on Viagra, which isnt really getting to the root of my problem.
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How old are you, what is your weight, and what is your TRT dosage per week? Also, before you started TRT did the doc disclose your Free and Total test values as well as estradiol levels? Are you having bloodwork done during TRT? Blood pressure and blood sugar can also affect the libido as well, but I'd be surprised if your doctor prescribed viagra if you had a high bp. I would also want to know the root of the problem rather than just treat the symptom as well.
 
Donnie Darko said:
How old are you, what is your weight, and what is your TRT dosage per week? Also, before you started TRT did the doc disclose your Free and Total test values as well as estradiol levels? Are you having bloodwork done during TRT? Blood pressure and blood sugar can also affect the libido as well, but I'd be surprised if your doctor prescribed viagra if you had a high bp. I would also want to know the root of the problem rather than just treat the symptom as well.
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Im 40 years young, 95 KG pretty active and I take sutanon 100 every week.
Sustanon 100 manufactured by Organon, breakdown below:
20mg testosterone propionate (Ph.Eur.)
40mg testosterone phenylpropionate (BP)
40mg testosterone isocaproate (BP)
(equivalent to 74mg of testosterone)
Blood work done 3 months ago showing test level at 9.1nmol/L
Thats all the info doc gave me, you have to appreciate the UK docs are a bit behind you guys in the USA.
Initially taken as low Libido, tiredness etc. The first month on TRT my libido was better than it has ever been, but seems to have started to decline.
What do you mean by the root of the problem??
 
jassdhali said:
Im 40 years young, 95 KG pretty active and I take sutanon 100 every week.
Sustanon 100 manufactured by Organon, breakdown below:
20mg testosterone propionate (Ph.Eur.)
40mg testosterone phenylpropionate (BP)
40mg testosterone isocaproate (BP)
(equivalent to 74mg of testosterone)
Blood work done 3 months ago showing test level at 9.1nmol/L
Thats all the info doc gave me, you have to appreciate the UK docs are a bit behind you guys in the USA.
Initially taken as low Libido, tiredness etc. The first month on TRT my libido was better than it has ever been, but seems to have started to decline.
What do you mean by the root of the problem??
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You've got some serious expertise helping you on this thread, and they'll have more experience than I do.

Having said that, what you wrote (the part I bolded) makes me think its estrogen build-up. Noticed any bloat or fullness feelings, especially in your abdomen?
 
I do feel as though my stomach is bloated and I do feel more FULL on the same amount of food that I regularly take in.
I will wiat for further guidance and I thank you for your guidance mrplunkey
 
Galaxy said:
Try injecting delts and quads for better absorption.
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I am injectging into my glutes, because the pain isnt as bad as when I inject in quads. Then again I didnt think injection site would have made a difference as long as it is IM?
 
jassdhali said:
I do feel as though my stomach is bloated and I do feel more FULL on the same amount of food that I regularly take in.
I will wiat for further guidance and I thank you for your guidance mrplunkey
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Did your doctor prescribe any anti-estrogens for you? You have an enzyme in your body that will convert a portion of your testosterone over into estrogen. When guys cycle on testosterone, they frequently have to take an anti-estrogen (pill or liquid) that inhibits that enzyme. Their testosterone levels build-up over time and without an anti-estrogen, an increasing portion converts to estrogen. They'll get bloated and pie-faced -- and yes, sometimes lose libido and/or erections.

Doctors currently prescribe 0.5 mg every other day of Arimidex (anastrazole) often as an anti-estrogen, but there are several choices beyond that available. Look at a few of this boards sponsors and read-up on their products. And also, always go a little easy on anti-estrogens -- you're on such a light testosterone suppliment that you won't need much of it at all.

Also... bounce all this off your doctor!
 
jassdhali said:
I am injectging into my glutes, because the pain isnt as bad as when I inject in quads. Then again I didnt think injection site would have made a difference as long as it is IM?
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Well your ass tends to have more fatty pockets and may slow absorption. Ever wonder why when your off you get one of those awesome workouts? Juice being released thats been just sitting there. Delts are a sure bet for steady release. Pure muscle.
 
mrplunkey said:
You've got some serious expertise helping you on this thread, and they'll have more experience than I do.

Having said that, what you wrote (the part I bolded) makes me think its estrogen build-up. Noticed any bloat or fullness feelings, especially in your abdomen?
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Took a 25mg tab of Proviron last night, this morning woke up with wood which hasnt happened for a week or so, but then again I did have a sust100 jab on Tuesday night,but I generally feel better. May be too quick but will carry on with proviron for a week to see how I get on.
 
jassdhali said:
Took a 25mg tab of Proviron last night, this morning woke up with wood which hasnt happened for a week or so, but then again I did have a sust100 jab on Tuesday night,but I generally feel better. May be too quick but will carry on with proviron for a week to see how I get on.
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Good luck! Sounds promising.
 
prob your test is too low....By the way, i'm not a fan of sustanon and I think it sucks for TRT unless you inject 2x a week. Cyp or enth is better and if you want a fast release agent use propionate with it. That's what I use now, 100mg cyp and 100mg prop once a week. Sex is great and no estrogen problems or anything either.
 
Varga said:
prob your test is too low....By the way, i'm not a fan of sustanon and I think it sucks for TRT unless you inject 2x a week. Cyp or enth is better and if you want a fast release agent use propionate with it. That's what I use now, 100mg cyp and 100mg prop once a week. Sex is great and no estrogen problems or anything either.
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How long do your do 200 mg/week? Are these cycles, or do you take that dose indefinitely?
 
Varga said:
prob your test is too low....By the way, i'm not a fan of sustanon and I think it sucks for TRT unless you inject 2x a week. Cyp or enth is better and if you want a fast release agent use propionate with it. That's what I use now, 100mg cyp and 100mg prop once a week. Sex is great and no estrogen problems or anything either.
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Hard to get that stuff in the UK. Was thinking of substituting 1 sust 100 jab with sustanon 250:

Sustanon 100
20mg testosterone propionate (Ph.Eur.)
40mg testosterone phenylpropionate (BP)
40mg testosterone isocaproate (BP)
(equivalent to 74mg of testosterone)

Sustanon 250
30mg testosterone propionate (Ph.Eur.)
60mg testosterone phenylpropionate (BP)
60mg testosterone isocaproate (BP)
100mg of testosterone decanoate (BP)
(equivalent to 176mg of testosterone)

Any thoughts appreciated
 
mrplunkey said:
How long do your do 200 mg/week? Are these cycles, or do you take that dose indefinitely?
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I do 200mg a week contiuously in between cycles as my HRT. Once I'm on a cycle I increase test considerably (500-850) depending what I'm doing along with other compounds. I do not think 200mg of test a week is a cycle by any means. 200mg a week puts me at high end of test around 1000ng.
 
jassdhali said:
Hard to get that stuff in the UK. Was thinking of substituting 1 sust 100 jab with sustanon 250:

Sustanon 100
20mg testosterone propionate (Ph.Eur.)
40mg testosterone phenylpropionate (BP)
40mg testosterone isocaproate (BP)
(equivalent to 74mg of testosterone)

Sustanon 250
30mg testosterone propionate (Ph.Eur.)
60mg testosterone phenylpropionate (BP)
60mg testosterone isocaproate (BP)
100mg of testosterone decanoate (BP)
(equivalent to 176mg of testosterone)

Any thoughts appreciated
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I would opt for the sust 250 if you can. Sust 250 has a longer acting ester in there ....exactely what you want. Your blood levels would be much more stable and consistent through the week.
 
Thanks varga - will get a blood test from my doc after a few days after my last jab for the month, just to see what my test levels are before I start the sust 250
 
Varga said:
I do 200mg a week contiuously in between cycles as my HRT. Once I'm on a cycle I increase test considerably (500-850) depending what I'm doing along with other compounds. I do not think 200mg of test a week is a cycle by any means. 200mg a week puts me at high end of test around 1000ng.
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200 a week of exogenous test only gets you to 1000ng? That's amazing (I believe you, you're just on the far end of the scale!).
 
Thats about right. general rule of thumb is to multiply by 4. For me Im naturally about 150, so I take 150mgs enanthate times that by 4 plus my additional natural 150 and you get me right around 800.
 
mrplunkey said:
200 a week of exogenous test only gets you to 1000ng? That's amazing (I believe you, you're just on the far end of the scale!).
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that's all it gives me unfortunately, I think that my weight and muscle mass sucks that testosterone right up:)
 
Galaxy said:
Thats about right. general rule of thumb is to multiply by 4. For me Im naturally about 150, so I take 150mgs enanthate times that by 4 plus my additional natural 150 and you get me right around 800.
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That' pretty cool how you figured that out
 
Yes a lot of doctors will prescribe Sustanon for TRT. As suggested^^^, it is not ideal for using in this way because of the neeed to inject more frequently using sust due to its ester structure. By far the best is a sinle long acting ester like Enanthate & @ 200mg PW. Arimidex can be used as an AI but should not be necessary at this dose.
 
Im on TRT as well. The doc presently has me on 260 mg test cyp weekly. Started me off at 180 mg and Ive been moving up slowly. When he tests me every 6 months, I do it on the day when my shot is due, which he calls a trough level. He determines from my low level if he needs to increase or not. If anyone does a shot and goes to the doc within a day or two, its going to read high.
A trough level is a more accurate way to determine if you actually need more test or not.
 
Galaxy said:
Thats about right. general rule of thumb is to multiply by 4. For me Im naturally about 150, so I take 150mgs enanthate times that by 4 plus my additional natural 150 and you get me right around 800.
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Sorry, but if you are on Test your body will make ZERO natural test.

So you are likely around 600 since you are likely completely shut down.
 
I incorporate Proviron into my Testosterone hormonal repertoire. Frees up more Test to bind with receptors, AND works quite nicely as an AI. AND makes you horny, AND gives you wood. :D

Libido comes and goes with HRT. It is obviously hormone balance.
 
halfcenturian said:
I incorporate Proviron into my Testosterone hormonal repertoire. Frees up more Test to bind with receptors, AND works quite nicely as an AI. AND makes you horny, AND gives you wood. :D

Libido comes and goes with HRT. It is obviously hormone balance.
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The last week I have incorporated Proviron and finding my groove again. But Doc wants to do a blood test in another 3 months, so I guess I have to go private
 
My doc has me on 400mg of test c per week been that way for about 6 months. I have not estro problems and no wood problems. I do eat a lot of candy from phizer though. Through in some HCG every 6th month.
 
goin on 4T said:
My doc has me on 400mg of test c per week been that way for about 6 months. I have not estro problems and no wood problems. I do eat a lot of candy from phizer though. Through in some HCG every 6th month.
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What were your levels before and what are they now..?

Since you have been taking the test how have things changed for you. Health and body looks wise??
 
My levels were the shits in the low 100's. I never ran test before in my life except in the last 2 years. When I was 20 or so I ran some winni and 2 cycles of EQ. I need a new blood test but I have like 2 more months of test c so I will call in about 6 weeks. Health is great and body well taking that amount of test is going to show great results for this long of a time. I don't know. I started slow with like 100mg a week and the dr just kept boosting it up so I started out growing and have just kept getting biger and stronger. Only the people who haven't seen me in a couple of months think wow. I eat good and train hard at the gym so no one there thinks any different. The problem is I am getting stronger than my joints. Starting to hurt from to heavy lifting. Doc says to add some deca... I don't know about that. I am trying to get more GH. Lots of body hair have not lost any on my head. Added about 15 or so pounds of good lean muscle.
 
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