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ephedrine vs. norephedrine vs. synephrine

your preferred E in ECA stack

  • ephedrine

    Votes: 23 57.5%

  • synephrine

    Votes: 2 5.0%

  • norephedrine

    Votes: 15 37.5%
  • Total voters
    40
J

Justtryingnot2getfat

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ephedrine
pseudo-ephedrine
norephedrine (phenylpropanolamine)
Synephrine
Ma Huang Extract (ephedrine)
Citrus Aurantium (Synephrine)

looking to make my own burner - whats the opinion and experience for these beta agonists - effectiveness, appetite suppression, jitters, herb extract vs hcl pure, etc.

i know that the HCL pure version is not used in most thermo products in the US anymore, because the DEA is paranoid that everyone with a bottle of ephedrine is going to start up a crystal meth factory (now there's a way to get $$$ for juice!! - lol - only a joke for all feds that read). I'm interested in opinion from everyone who has used both versions and any differences.

feel free to add others
 
how bout some voting, at least???? comments, even

- i doubt there are two people on this board that havent used a one or a combo of these as a cutter/energy booster/thermo - how bout some comparisons????
 
how bout some voting, at least???? comments, even

- i doubt there are two people on this board that havent used a one or a combo of these as a cutter/energy booster/thermo - how bout some comparisons????
 
for me ephedrine and products with it makes me too jittery. synephrine seems to be more smooth - tho ive never had "real" synephrine, only the orange extract. noreph is the best to cut down on the munchies - man when i use that stuff (in adipo or lopoK) i totally forget to eat! - but it doesnt really give me much of an enery boost or seem as thermogenic as pure ephedrine. i still have the strait pills from a while ago - not that ma huang crap - and they will get you wired but also a little too much of a bronchial dialator, makes my nose toooo dry if i take very much.
 
The original Ephedrine is the best. I know the FDA has banned this,and this sucks. Anyways, If you could get the original then stay with it. The herbal ones just don't do the same. But if you have to use them then you have no choice. Props. for E.C.A. PL
 
I just ordered a bottle of Adipo.(norephedrine). I've never tried before; have tried Biotests version of MD6 with little results. Was disappointed. I've tried other brands like Xenadrine which contain ECA stack with synephrine that work pretty good. So if you buy a product like Xenadrine, it has all the ingredients in it already besides norephedrine and yohimbe. Adipo. and Biotest are the only brands I know of that contain norephedrine. There was a post here a little while ago that said that PPA( norephedrine) was being outlawed now. I don't know if their just selling what is already on the shelf now, or what? I am a little confused.
 
Thermogenicity(From greatest to least greatest)

1. Nor-ephedrine a.k.a phenyl-proponolamine
(Dextro-isomer of ephedrine HCL)

2. Ephedrine SULFATE

3. Ephedrine HYDROCHLORIDE

(Sulfated EPH crosses the blood-brain barrier easier than
the HCL version and is slightly more bio-available)

4. Synephrine: SUCKS

WIRING EFFECT:

1. Ephedrine Sulfate

2. Ephedrine HCL

3. Nor-ephedrine

4. Synephrine

Pseudo-ephedrine or phenylephrine is even WORSE
than synephrine. Just puts you to sleep and
has next to zero thermogenic properties.

Fonz
 
Because of my long work schedules, I always look for the products that contain Ephedrine HCL in them. I have tried norephedrine and it simply doesn't have and effect on me....this includes eliminating hunger. However, on a really busy week, where unforunately lately, I have been working 80-90 hours, I can take ephedrine HCL, have a tremendous amount of energy, without the jitters, and my appetite is totally surpressed. And when it comes time to work out I am motivated and focused.

It is "lifeline" as of late!!

:D
 
i like adipo, it has worked the best so far for me... there are products that contain ephedrine,nor-ephedrine,yohimbine, and caffeine tho.


Rich
 
hydroxycuts are actually good, despite being from muscletech, the king of bullshit advertising companies. Id say if you can go for some clen instead.
 
All the gas stations around here sell ephedrine tablets.

And I just got my *pure* ephedrine tabs from Canada, and the local P.D. delivered it themselves. :)

I'm surprised about PPA...I hate the stuff. Gave me no type of buzz and sent my blood pressure up through the fucking roof! No wonder people were dying on that stuff.
 
UK bros might be happy to learn that an over the counter product contains the following ingredients:

100mg Theophylline (a thermogenic and relative of caffeine)
50mg Caffeine
18mg ephedrine hcl

The product is called Chest Eeze. You will have to ask for it in Boots or wherever. Try not to look like a bodybuilder?! They will ask what you are using it for. Say "I have bad chest infection and my doctor tells me its ok to use this".
 
gary i looked at the ingrediants of chest eeze it did not list ephedrine or caffiene have you tried it what was it like mate?
 
. Nor-ephedrine a.k.a phenyl-proponolamine (Dextro-isomer of ephedrine HCL

Nor-ephedrine is PPA but it is not the dextro isomer of epehdrine.ephedrine is the dextro-iosomer, pseudo-ephedrine(sudafed) is the levo isomer. Nor is german for "without radical" the radical in this case(and most) being the methyl group.
0
l //
ll l/\ =ephedrine/pseudoephedrine
l ll \ /
ll NH
\

0
l //
ll l/\ =phenypropanolamine
l ll \ /
ll NH2
 
caiza said:
gary i looked at the ingrediants of chest eeze it did not list ephedrine or caffiene have you tried it what was it like mate?
Click to expand...

Hang on... I am now going to go downstairs and get my box of chest eeze....
 
Chest Eze (Do-Do)

Edge of box has ingredients:

Each tablet:

Theophylline 100mg (theophylline is a potent thermogenic)
Ephedrine Hydrochloride 18.31 mg
Caffeine 30mg

30 tablets is something like £3. Bargain. Just don't abuse the stuff. It can fuck you up. I can testify to it's potency - it does get you wired.
 
justwannagetsum said:
that didnt come out to well..
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Err....

PPA is the MOLECULAR mirror-image of ephedrine.

That makes it its dextro-isomer.

isomer=spatial orientation of similiar molecules

dextro="turned" or in this case 90 degrees

Is this wrong?

Fonz
 
Can't tell. . I only tried ECA with ephedrine. My heart was speeding too fast so i stopped. The best effect I felt is the decrease of appetite.
 
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