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EASY TO USE CKD WORKSHEET & NEW DIET: The NOT so Natural FAT-FAST diet! ...by: Mr.X

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Thought I would be the first to say thanks for the latest of the greatest. When I decide to be hardcore, I'll definetly give this a shot.
 
BeefyBull said:


Yeah that would be great! :)
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It takes 1 min to sign up and the site has a copyright on the article for they sponsored it, so sign on up folks :)

AND it's FREE! :)

Mr.X
 
So if one would choose not to use any anabolics(maybe only Clenbuterol 2 weeks and EC for 2 weeks), would that mean one could not drop the amount of fat in that time, without loosing muscle..? It might go right? But it seems like one would have to change the diet, maybe take a bigger protein meal before bedtime?

I think the diet looks interesting. But there must be a "close one" for those who do not want to use the anabolics. What would you suggest Mr. X, more calories? Less cardio? Other ratios?
 
Alfons said:
So if one would choose not to use any anabolics(maybe only Clenbuterol 2 weeks and EC for 2 weeks), would that mean one could not drop the amount of fat in that time, without loosing muscle..? It might go right? But it seems like one would have to change the diet, maybe take a bigger protein meal before bedtime?

I think the diet looks interesting. But there must be a "close one" for those who do not want to use the anabolics. What would you suggest Mr. X, more calories? Less cardio? Other ratios?
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It's impossible to do this type of diet, with such a deficit w/o AS and thyroid, peroid. Such a caloric deficit is rarely seen, and these levels will surely lower thyroid to such a level that fat-loss will be non-existant. Also, cortisol levels will be out of control. Neither Clen nor ECA will help the problem.

The only way to do something like this naturally is just to take a 20%deficit from your BMR (weightx12) which is just a basic diet, not like FF.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:


It's impossible to do this type of diet, with such a deficit w/o AS and thyroid, peroid. Such a caloric deficit is rarely seen, and these levels will surely lower thyroid to such a level that fat-loss will be non-existant. Also, cortisol levels will be out of control. Neither Clen nor ECA will help the problem.

The only way to do something like this naturally is just to take a 20%deficit from your BMR (weightx12) which is just a basic diet, not like FF.

Mr.X
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Great article...

What about using one of the 1-test products and T2 for this instead of steriods and T3? Would this work somewhat?
 
CytoMel said:


Great article...

What about using one of the 1-test products and T2 for this instead of steriods and T3? Would this work somewhat?
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Pro-H are largely a waste of money, so is T2, no real concrete research on human subjects. I would highly suggest AS + T3, otherwise the risk is too high- catabolic wise.

Mr.X
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Mr.X, you are the man. I can't thank you enough for all of the time and effort that you put into helping us all out. When is your first book being released, and what is it titled? I will buy the first copy.
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Chuck Diesel,

I'm not sure of the title, but it will have all the diets you can imagine w/ worksheets like the ones I provides (more detail of course). Just an FYI, the release date is 1-2years, so it's not that soon :)

thank you for all your support :)

Mr.X
 
velvett said:
I can't for the book......


Oh and I WANT TO HAVE MINE SIGNED!

:)
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Thanks Velvett, I promise yours will be signed, even if I have to electronically sign it lol :)

I thank you for the support :)

Mr.X
 
Excell has died on my computer...can anyone download the sheet, scan it and email it to me.....or scan and post it?
 
Cornholio said:
Excell has died on my computer...can anyone download the sheet, scan it and email it to me.....or scan and post it?
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Cornholio,

It's not a worksheet that has matching numbers, it's an excel worksheet where you just input your weight in one box (in lbs.) and it magically shows you all the ratios. :)

What's your weight? I can just break it down for you right here, w/o the worksheet. :)

Mr.X
 
Xiodus said:
OMFG MR.X You are the man. Will you have my kids?
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LOL :p
One problem, I'm a male and your profile says you're a male, and two sticks can't make a kid sorry my man :) lol

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:


Cornholio,

It's not a worksheet that has matching numbers, it's an excel worksheet where you just input your weight in one box (in lbs.) and it magically shows you all the ratios. :)

What's your weight? I can just break it down for you right here, w/o the worksheet. :)

Mr.X
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GREAT.....


Do one for 225...and one for 145 please Sir.
 
Excellent.....I am starting this on Mon...I willpost numbers everyweek if there is an interest.
 
Actually - Im gonna try ther FF diet.....but I would still klike the numbers on ther ckd for 225 and 140 for future
 
Cornholio said:


GREAT.....


Do one for 225...and one for 145 please Sir.
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My friend, here you go:

225lbs
DAY..........BMR cal/day.............Fat ..........Protein.......... Carb
1..............2565........................242..........96........... >20grams
2..............2430........................203..........152..........>20grams
3..............2295........................166..........201 ..........>20grams
4..............2700........................210..........203..........>20grams
5..............2430........................189..........182..........>20grams
6..............2295........................166..........201..........>20grams
CARB-UP
7..............3510........................39............176 .......... 614


140lbs
DAY...........BMR cal/day.............Fat..........Protein.....Carb
1..............1596........................151..........60............> 20grams
2..............1512........................126..........95............>20grams
3..............1428........................103..........125..........> 20grams
4..............1680........................131..........126..........>20grams
5..............1512........................118..........113..........> 20grams
6..............1428........................103..........125..........>20grams
CARB-UP
7..............2184........................24............109............382

Mr.X
 
Cornholio said:
Excellent.....I am starting this on Mon...I willpost numbers everyweek if there is an interest.
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Post them here... :)
Make sure you have ALL the supplements :)

Mr.X
 
MR X can you alternate weeks of clen and Beta3/ Bromo, or possibly run bromo throughout and alternate just the clen and Beta3(octopamine).

I am very sensative to prolactin/progesterone
 
HUGHJORGEN said:
MR X can you alternate weeks of clen and Beta3/ Bromo, or possibly run bromo throughout and alternate just the clen and Beta3(octopamine).

I am very sensative to prolactin/progesterone
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I would just drop the clen and run the bromo throughout if you have such bad prolactin/prog problems.

Mr.X
 
im going on a dnp cycle in about 5 weeks. I'll run this diet with it . It should really be insane. I might need to add some fruit here and there because i will be on dnp.

will keep you all posted when i start
 
Diesel3d said:
im going on a dnp cycle in about 5 weeks. I'll run this diet with it . It should really be insane. I might need to add some fruit here and there because i will be on dnp.

will keep you all posted when i start
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If you run DNP w/ it, you need to switch the fat intake to carb intake, making the diet a protein/carb diet.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:


I would just drop the clen and run the bromo throughout if you have such bad prolactin/prog problems.

Mr.X
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OK doin that.

Also would 1 meal a day(breakfast) of 4 eggs 1/4 cup cheese and 4 strips of bacon be a problem??

I lookes at the numbers for P & F and they seem to me to work.

BTW _ I am on day 3- But will try to keep my routine normal besides diet- 3 workouts per week, cardio ED fo 30 minutes in AM. And doing 30 minutes on the afternoons I do not lift.

PS- I dreamt of chocolate cake last nifgt- not a good sign- LMAO~~
 
Also would 1 meal a day(breakfast) of 4 eggs 1/4 cup cheese and 4 strips of bacon be a problem??
that's fine, as long as you come out w/ the right ratios you're fine

I lookes at the numbers for P & F and they seem to me to work.

BTW _ I am on day 3- But will try to keep my routine normal besides diet- 3 workouts per week, cardio ED fo 30 minutes in AM. And doing 30 minutes on the afternoons I do not lift.

PS- I dreamt of chocolate cake last nifgt- not a good sign-
choc dreaming is no good lol

Mr.X
 
dont you think that the supps are a bit of an overkill? since there are no carbs- why would you want arimidex? and IMO 75mg fina/ed would be just as beneficial, not to mention cheaper. i can see why you need t3 and the fatburners of course. creatine- why? im assuming you are talking about the one w/o any sugars. vitamin c and multi vits and potassium (if i remember correctly, potassium helps prevent the lerthagy that comes from not eating carbs?) are reasonable. but why vit E, calcium and magnesium?
 
Mr.X said:
Also would 1 meal a day(breakfast) of 4 eggs 1/4 cup cheese and 4 strips of bacon be a problem??
that's fine, as long as you come out w/ the right ratios you're fine

I lookes at the numbers for P & F and they seem to me to work.

BTW _ I am on day 3- But will try to keep my routine normal besides diet- 3 workouts per week, cardio ED fo 30 minutes in AM. And doing 30 minutes on the afternoons I do not lift.

PS- I dreamt of chocolate cake last nifgt- not a good sign-
choc dreaming is no good lol

Mr.X
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I re-ran the numbers- and it looks like this

1 egg 1 strip ob bacon 15g of cheese and 1 tsp(not tbsp) of oil ( iused flax, but olive would taste better)

it works out to 244 cal, 21g F and 18 g P

good for 1 - 2 meals but not quite the cal for all 5 but you could adjust.

This should helpp with hunger pains as you will be digesting food (protein in powders ie shakes are pre-digested and leave you hungry)
 
also- the diet is for 28 days and the t3 is for 45 days. im assuming this is because you are not suppose to take lower doses at the end of the diet?
 
DepressiveJuice said:
dont you think that the supps are a bit of an overkill? since there are no carbs- why would you want arimidex? and IMO 75mg fina/ed would be just as beneficial, not to mention cheaper. i can see why you need t3 and the fatburners of course. creatine- why? im assuming you are talking about the one w/o any sugars. vitamin c and multi vits and potassium (if i remember correctly, potassium helps prevent the lerthagy that comes from not eating carbs?) are reasonable. but why vit E, calcium and magnesium?
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No, the supplements are NOT overkill. Taking in armidex has NOTHING to do w/ carbs. W/o T3 the diet is a waste of time, after a few days your thyroid levels will drop and you'll be wasting your time; thus, the T3. Creatine to help the muscle fullness, where creatine is still absorbed through the lower intestine. ALL the vitamins and minerals and anti-oxidants are beneficial because of such a limited regiment. And, potassium doesn't prevent any lethargy.

NYC, you can get it at www.anabolicfitness.com

Mr.X
 
Cornholio said:
Actually - Im gonna try ther FF diet.....but I would still klike the numbers on ther ckd for 225 and 140 for future
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Began on Jan 10.......typical 45/30/25 split on the Protein/Fat/Carbs - 11 cals per pound.....cardio ED for 400 cals per day

233 at 12.8%
225 at 10.2%

.....carbing up every 5th day.
 
can somebody do this for 255 lbs please? i dont have exel, only excel viewer, could somebody give me a link to download excel?

thanks
 
YES! Finally a diet I like lol

Protein shakes and flax oil - couldn't be simpler!

I'm strarting right now as a matter of fact.

Fina - check, T3 - check, winny - check, femara - check, NYC - check, CLA - check, R-ALA - check....I'm set.

Can I run some test (500mgs of sus a week) with this or would that be a waste?

thanks,

nik

btw eating egg whites is easy - just pour liquid egg whites in skillet and make an omelet with some seasoning.
 
so what about this diet if I dont want to do any Cycles of Test, or any hormone stuff? would it still be effective if I just used Glutamine, Proteins, Flax Oils, Omega Oils? or do you need all the supplements for the fat loss claims to be about right? Im just a little scared about starting any anabolic stuff.
 
mrX what about after the diet? how are you supposed to pick up your thryoid back up to prevent a rebound?
 
Great work ! ! ! Im starting a keto in May and cant wait , this sheet makes it idiot proof

I have on equestion

every time you lose weight do you change the numbers on a week to week basis or do you just stick with the same base wait from week 1

and how many weeks can you run this if you had some help from some test

thanks
 
Ive been trying to download this program, and I registered at massmonsters. But I dont have excel. Im not too computer literate. If any of you bros can help me out, and find out the breakdown for 185lbs it would help out a lot. Ill send you Karma or whatever. -thanks:D
 
CKD WORKSHEET BY: Mr.X

ENTER WEIGHT BELOW in LBS.
Weight= 185

DAY BMR cal/day Fat grams Protein grams Carb Grams
1 2109 199 79 less than 20grams
2 1998 167 125 less than 20grams
3 1887 136 165 less than 20grams
4 2220 173 167 less than 20grams
5 1998 155 150 less than 20grams
6 1887 136 165 less than 20grams
CARB-UP
7 2886 32 144 505


compliments of Mr.X and his upcoming book........enjoy guys and gals :)
 
The sheet is great. I have an issue of concern, i feel the need to express. I will give you some background that you need to know.

Im 35/M/Natural started the Atkins diet(no carb up day). So iv been in ketosis for allmost 2 months. When i started i was 235 lbs. Benching 135, squating 135(hvnt worked out in about 10 years)

Iv been in ketosis now for 2 months. im benching 245 for reps, squatting 275 for reps and im at 205 lbs.(all unasisted and full debth)

If muscles cant grow when we are in a constant state of ketosis, please explain the increase in poundage im able to lift.
 
Re: NEW DIET: The NOT so Natural FAT-FAST diet! by: Mr.X

Mr.X said:
The NOT so Natural FAT-FAST diet!

ARE YOU READY TO BE HARDCORE?! here is what I've been working on for you hardcore folks......

The NOT so Natural FAT-FAST diet!...click here
Mr.X
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I just read through your article over at massmonsters. I had question regarding your AS recommendations adn T-3. Why winny and anavar together? That's a lot of 17AA IMO. I was thinking of something like this:

Tren/Prop 75/100mg's Eod
D-bol - 50mg's ED ( D-bol raises dopamine levels, which aide in fat burning).

Also , I'm not a big fan of T-3. Is this highly recommended for this diet?

Thanks...

Juice
 
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Juice Authority said:


I just read through your article over at massmonsters. I had question regarding your AS recommendations adn T-3. Why winny and anavar together? That's a lot of 17AA IMO. I was thinking of something like this:

Tren/Prop 75/100mg's Eod
D-bol - 50mg's ED ( D-bol raises dopamine levels, which aide in fat burning).

Also , I'm not a big fan of T-3. Is this highly recommended for this diet?

Thanks...

Juice
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To answer your t3 question, your thyroid levels will be extremly low on this diet. You are wasting your time without the t3.
 
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IMO, you are wasting your time period. imaging the fat rebound once youre off the diet and T3
 
DepressiveJuice said:
IMO, you are wasting your time period. imaging the fat rebound once youre off the diet and T3
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Not true at all....Imagine the amount of fat-loss possible first, then imagine a typical CKD where the same stands true as fat-fast (starvation). Now, you can taper off CKD just as you can taper off FF, bring serotonin levels back up and increase r-ala, p-seven intake and you should be fine - with a good amount of fiber daily.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:


Not true at all....Imagine the amount of fat-loss possible first, then imagine a typical CKD where the same stands true as fat-fast (starvation). Now, you can taper off CKD just as you can taper off FF, bring serotonin levels back up and increase r-ala, p-seven intake and you should be fine - with a good amount of fiber daily.

Mr.X
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Well I would hope so for my sake. I am doing this now and I am on day 4.

After the 4 weeks is up, I am switching to a low carb, small meal diet for 3 weeks. Basically diet will consist of only low gi carbs (wild rice etc) and protein and good fats.

So after the 4 weeks, a sample meal would be:

1 chicken breast
1 cup wild rice
1 cup broccoli
 
can someone send me the excel file or something...? when i tried to login i actually put my real age and it says that they can't register anyone under 18, i tried to register again with a different age but i got the same error message...
 
HI folks Im new to this board so Hello to all. Im away to come off a bulking cycle in a month and am interested in this ckd diet, I had a look at massmonsters for the thread but couldnt find it. Maybe Im just looking in the wrong place or maybe its not there?
 
need2Bbig said:
Mr. X, would this diet be beneficial for someone with 20% bodyfat? Or is this diet good only if you are around 10%?
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I would suggest you try it when you're a bit lower then 10, maybe at 15.

Mr.X
 
ok, I registered at MM, and still cant see the fat fast diet. Its under Mr. X articles or whatever right?? It keeps telling me inactive link or some sheeit. WTF?
 
KOArtist said:
ok, I registered at MM, and still cant see the fat fast diet. Its under Mr. X articles or whatever right?? It keeps telling me inactive link or some sheeit. WTF?
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works for me...

fat fast

Mr.X
 
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what kind of foods do you guys eat in order to reach that fat amount and still stay below 20gs or carbs? Just interested...
 
bump for the work sheet via email PLEASE!! I cant down load it from here!!
 
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