i am what i am said:The team itself basically decided to end their season on their own because they knew they were in the shit hole. There is talk of videos and pictures that were taken, semen samples and stains, the strippers broken fingernails, and a whole bunch of other shit. They are innocent until proven guilty, but it looks lilke they are fucked.
Kakdiesel said:i had some friends on the Lacrosse team in college in ohio and while preppy, upperclass, and white, I didnt find that they were racist at all.
Kakdiesel said:also I want to add that the neighborhood where this off-campus house is located, is predominantly black.
if you were a bunch of college aged white guys, living in a predominantly black neighborhood, would you be yelling N**er this or N***er that like she claimed?
I dunno. I dont think these so-called spoiled rich white kids would have balls to do that.
eat big said:Don't forget, some black females called into 911 claiming someone from that house called them *iggers.
Kakdiesel said:dont forget that there is ONE black player on the lacrosse team who attended the party.
teammate and/or friend who attended the party and is black hasnt been questioned. why?
eat big said:Trust me dude they do. Some southern frats have *igger parties where they dress black.
eat big said:Dude, I know of so many blacks in the upper class at my school who are pretty fucking racist. I go to a private university about an hour away from Duke and the frats here are so damn racist.
Kakdiesel said:so u know blacks who hate blacks??
Kakdiesel said:my frat at a ghetto party where we dressed all thug gangsta. is that racist?
also, my senior year I lived in this off-campus house with 3 of my frat brothers and our neighborhood of housing was called "Da Ghetto"
Is that racist?
eat big said:Pretty much. Some kids have dropped the N bomb in front of upper class blacks I know and they don't care. I was like WTF? They usually say, "as long as you don't call me that I don't care."
I'm not friends with anyone who is really racist honestly. Racism is one thing that pisses me off greatly. I'd say my school is about 8% black. Most private colleges are that way. Sad.
Kakdiesel said:i dont understand what is sad about not having blacks at a college.
College/universities public and private are opportunities, not entitlements. Unlike public elementary, jr high, and high schools (where one must attend according to parents/guardians home address), you can choose which school you want to attend.
When a kid, regardless of race, CHOOSES which school to go to, I dont see anything racist or sad about it. It just means not a lot of black people want to go to your school. Just like you probably didnt apply to Grambling.
Sometimes, when things seem racist, they aren't.
eat big said:Ehh, yeah that's much more true for college. I guess your right but I honestly think it's because most minorities can't afford it which is why it's sad (If it's private).
eat big said:Ehh, yeah that's much more true for college. I guess your right but I honestly think it's because most minorities can't afford it which is why it's sad (If it's private).
I made the poll just to answer out in stereotypical fashion from one view point to the other.nycgirl said:Maybe they are a bunch of assholes that have no respect for women. Had they (the strippers) been white, the same thing might have happened. Like Tiger said, they should've been protected.
If there is evidence of something fucked up occurring, it doesn't matter that these were black ghetto strippers with 4 children and 3 baby daddies in jail. Just like it doesn't matter if they were white girls that got too drunk at some frat party.
The legal system will straigten it out.
Damn, where is 75th? This could've been so much better.
nycgirl said:Maybe they are a bunch of assholes that have no respect for women. Had they (the strippers) been white, the same thing might have happened. Like Tiger said, they should've been protected.
If there is evidence of something fucked up occurring, it doesn't matter that these were black ghetto strippers with 4 children and 3 baby daddies in jail. Just like it doesn't matter if they were white girls that got too drunk at some frat party.
The legal system will straigten it out.
Damn, where is 75th? This could've been so much better.
Kakdiesel said:The sadness lies in the racism of scholarships.
Schools have a lot of scholarship opportunities for hispanics and blacks.
The United Negro College Fund is still alive and well today.
How is it fair to the middle class white kid who has a 3.8 GPA and cant afford to go to college, while the poor black kid who has a 3.0 GPA and gets a full ride?
How is it fair to asians and indians (middle easterners) who are working class families and their kids all cancel each other out with their matching 4.0 gpa's while applying for only academic scholarships (since no other minority scholarships are usually available to these two minority groups)?
eat big said:Some black sports writers say it is a major racial issue because the whole team except one person is white and the victims were black. Sure the same thing could have happened if they were white. But there is a 911 phone call from someone who was walking in front of the house and they called them racial slurs. They obviously treat women like shit.
Kakdiesel said:CORRECTION:
they treat STRIPPERS LIKE SHIT.
eat big said:Eh no one knows if they would do it to white women or not so...
I'm getting out of this thread before it gets nasty.
eat big said:Some black sports writers say it is a major racial issue because the whole team except one person is white and the victims were black. Sure the same thing could have happened if they were white. But there is a 911 phone call from someone who was walking in front of the house and they called them racial slurs. They obviously treat women like shit.
nycgirl said:Well, of course the team is predominately white. Um, playing on the lacrosse team was not an option at John Jay High School in Brooklyn, New York. The only black player that was on the Syracuse team while I was there was from Northern VA. I'm willing to bet he (the only black player) is from a similar community or a prep school. The fact that the sports writers (black,) would even mention that is stupid.
Yes, the use of racial slurs doesn't help the situation. It stirred up some old wounds. However, I don't think its a "hate crime". According to what I read on washingtonpost.com, they were called ni**ers before they walked in the door. If they felt uncomfortable, wtf did they go in there?
LOL @ differentiating between strippers and women. I'll leave this one alone.
nycgirl said:Well, of course the team is predominately white. Um, playing on the lacrosse team was not an option at John Jay High School in Brooklyn, New York. The only black player that was on the Syracuse team while I was there was from Northern VA. I'm willing to bet he (the only black player) is from a similar community or a prep school. The fact that the sports writers (black,) would even mention that is stupid.
Yes, the use of racial slurs doesn't help the situation. It stirred up some old wounds. However, I don't think its a "hate crime". According to what I read on washingtonpost.com, they were called ni**ers before they walked in the door. If they felt uncomfortable, wtf did they go in there?
LOL @ differentiating between strippers and women. I'll leave this one alone.
Kakdiesel said:I think its illogical to say that a person who doesnt respect a stripper, doesnt respect women.
i think thats an unfair assumption. I dont respect strippers. I respect women. Is that wrong?
nycgirl said:If that is your view, fine. However, I don't see the difference between a stripper and a women/women that posts pics of their boobs, naked shower pics and other forms of sexually suggestive poses on the internet.
If a woman posts pics of her boobs on a site, does that mean she should be stalked because "no woman" would do something like that?
You may not respect them, but that doesn't mean you have the right to violate them.
Kakdiesel said:Well I think you might have misunderstood the extent of not respecting a stripper.
I would never violate or physically/verbally abuse or assault a woman just bc I didnt respect her.
My lack of respect would be categorized in the department of "NO SYMPATHY"
Does it suck what happened? if its true, of course.
But I dont feel that sorry for her.
Its like feeling sorry for a crack dealer for getting shot during a drug deal gone bad.
When you are in these lines of work, one must expect the risks that are involved.
eat big said:She's just trying to earn. Pretty sure she didn't do anything to deserve it except being black. Which is fucked up.
Kakdiesel said:I've worked for Blimpie Subs and delievered pizzas for Donato's pizza in my lifetime.
she can earn in other ways
ya and shack that ass like a poleroid.eat big said:She's just trying to earn. Pretty sure she didn't do anything to deserve it except being black. Which is fucked up.

eat big said:Sure she can. But what about women that post pics on the internet for free?
Kakdiesel said:I think you answered your own question. Its for free and for one reason or another.
She strips for money (let us not forget, in person, in real life).
If she needs money, she can swallow her "pride" and get a shitty job like I've had in the past.
you know how humiliating it was at times makin fucking the Blimpie's Best sandwhich during lunch hour?
fucking A.
eat big said:Your contradicting yourself here for a few reasons.
1) You say strippers are pretty trashy or whatever you find wrong with them but you don't think they have already swallowed their pride. You think a minimum wage job is worse but you for some reason talk down on strippers and not yourself.
2) It has to be pretty humiliating to dance naked in front of mostly white males while they call you racial slurs.
3) Okay she strips in person, but posting pics on the internet is pretty much an invite for jerking off in many instances.
Check your avi.
Kakdiesel said:1) I was responding to your remark about the "individual" just trying to "earn."
2) I worked those shitty jobs bc I needed the money at the time. I could have acted like I was too good for them, but my wallet spoke otherwise. I think my choice of working those jobs is a helluva lot more respectable than a stripper.
3) When you take your clothes off for money, I think racial slurs are the least of your concerns. Although, yes, it probably adds insult to injury.
4) WTF does a picture on the internet have to do with a real life stripper? U post a pic on the internet, people jerk off to it. Fine. Whatever. You goto someone's house and take off your clothes, I think before you take that job you would think there is a possiblity of it becoming somewhat shady or dangerous. Just like Tigger88 said, dont strippers/escorts always have a driver or bodyguard? why would they? because they are needed in that line of work.
eat big said:I was just saying that you act like a min. wage job is so bad and embrassing but being a stripper is probably much worse.
In response to number 3, "if one takes of money then racial slurs are the least of your concerns." This is exactly what I'm talking about. Girls post pics on the internet for FREE of themselves naked etc. How is that not as bad? They don't do it for money. Are you saying doing it in person makes it less respectable? Shit I'd post a cock pic before I get naked in front of people in real life.
Also, in number two, you state " worked those shitty jobs bc I needed the money at the time. I could have acted like I was too good for them, but my wallet spoke otherwise." Strippers get paid pretty well. If she had a few kids, no spouse and no college education, she needs all the money she can get bro and stripping will provide that money. And in response to your later part in number two, "I think my choice of working those jobs is a helluva lot more respectable than a stripper." Then how come you said this: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6034566&postcount=37. She can get a shitty job like you? So her job isn't shit now? Doesn't make sense. I'll reply tomorrow because The Sopranos is coming on soon and I need a shower. Peace.
tiger88 said:I hope not. When you are a stripper who goes to peeps houses (you need to be ready for this shit to happen) strippers who go to houses = escorts
where was there driver?body gaurd? its not like a escort doesnt know they are selling sex fantasies 1$ at a time....
...they did put themselves in that situation.... hey i am a escort and gonna go to do a sex show with another chic naked in front of guys in some shady house at midnite ? nothin good is gonna come from that
Kakdiesel said:dont forget that there is ONE black player on the lacrosse team who attended the party.
teammate and/or friend who attended the party and is black hasnt been questioned. why?
I would think that if racial slurs were involved, that this black male would speak out against his teammates. or at least would have tried to stop them during the whole fiascoDial_tone said:because the woman said her attackers were white, so he was out.
Kakdiesel said:I would think that if racial slurs were involved, that this black male would speak out against his teammates. or at least would have tried to stop them during the whole fiasco
Dial_tone said:a. his word against everyone else
b. he'd be hassled right off the team
needtogetas said:ya and shack that ass like a poleroid.![]()

Kakdiesel said:Dude, either you have some sort of agenda here, or you can't read. Either way, this is getting tiresome.
I never said strippers dont get paid well. of course they do. I'm going to lay this out very simply for you:
1) strippers are pieces of shit in my opinion.
2) strippers get no sympathy from me. why? see #1.
3) this woman who may or MAY NOT be telling the truth, claims to have been assaulted raped etc. Sucks, but I dont feel sorry for her. I hope the Duke athletes, if they are guilty, get punished. But I don't feel sorry for her. Why? see #2.
4) If I'm broke, need money, I'm going to get a job. Swallow my pride if I have to (if i had no formal education etc.) and work somewhere like a fuggin sandwich shop. I could easily get into slinging some blow or pills and make a shit load of money. If I got robbed, jumped, or arrested, I wouldnt expect anyone to feel sorry for me. Why? Because before going into hypothetical career move into drug dealing, I would obviously know the dangers and risks I would be taking. So do strippers.
5) If I post a picture of myself on the internet, and WOOLTOOL or COLDBLUETOOL or SWOLE were to photo shop it into something funny or embarassing, I wouldnt expect anyone to feel sorry for me. Posting my picture on the internet involves risking that someone creative would defame this pretty face. Would I have any right to bitch and moan about it? No.
What you seem to be missing in your agenda based posts for some odd reason, is that a girl or guy posting pics on the internet is not comparable AT ALL to a real life stripper.
Internet vs Real Life. what is confusing about that?
Strippers get no sympathy from me. Why is that hard to understand? There is nothing contradictory to me about that.
Do you know any real life strippers personally? Guess what? I do. Two of my best friends in Atlanta had serious girlfriends who were strippers at a club. I hung out around them a lot. I know how fucking shady stripper life is. And this one, in this story, was a house-calling stripper.
do you realize thats just a legal way of saying hooker?
Do you respect hookers? Because they are just "trying to earn a living?"
eat big said:Well they aren't most lacrosse kids. Much of lacrosse is an upper class sport. Almost all of the lacrosse athletes are Caucasian. It's Duke bro, in the middle of NC. Plus I don't think there's maybe even two black people on the team. In the South East, it's a mostly white sport. I go to all of the UVA games and they only had one black player on their team out of about 30. I saw them play Duke one time in Charlottesville and they were almost all white.
Hengst said:Conversly, by using your standards the NBA is racist because it is overwhelmingly black.
or do you believe that ANY organization that has a majority white composition is racist? and ANY majority white group should be 'diversified' ? (even if the US is still 70% white?)
JuicedAthletics said:Some of you guys are oblivious. Durham for years has had a well known grudge against Duke. Duke employess like 80% of Durham's working population while the other half is poverty. I have played team sports at a pretty private rich white school in Florida and I know what its like to go to a wealthy school in a poverty stricken town. If that women was raped, more likely than not, someone would have stopped it, or the tests would have come back by now and someone would be getting the hammer. So two black chicks are called nigs and they call 911 to complain? Bro, those chicks would have got their boys to come burn down that frat house, who are you kidding... Someone just wants a little piece of $$$$ from some dumb ass jocks, who made a bad decsion about the clientel the hired.
"Got their boys to burn down that frat house."
That one statement negates any point you were trying to make.
JuicedAthletics said:But I truly find it hard to believe that a bunch of guys would be THAT STUPID to give up what they know they have for a hooker..
Dial_tone said:It's not stupid if you're sure you're going to get away with it. The amount of stereotyping on this thread is crazy. She's a stripper so she must be easy. She's got a kid so she must be after money. They're rich and thought they were above the law. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
eat big said:Wow. So because she's a stripper you don't feel sorry if she's raped or abused? You're contradicting yourself. And it is tiresome, which is why I didn't want to get into it in the first place. Later.
Kakdiesel said:I find it comical based on your agenda that you want to spin everything I say and tell me I'm contradicting myself. If anybody would take the time to read my posts, there would be able to see there is nothing contradicting about anything I'm saying. You are just wanting to spin it as such.
For the last fucking time, no I dont feel sorry for her if she was raped or abused because she is a house calling (escort) stripper.
When you become a fireman, there are certain risks you know about going into the job. You might die in a fire being one of them.
When you become an house calling stripper, getting raped or abused (especially withouth having a bodyguard or driver with you) is one of those things you are willing to risk.
Nothing I'm saying in contradicting and you my friend are spinning every post I make.
eat big said:Another thing. My school is about 8% black, most of which are athletes with scholarships.
thewanderer690 said:the black population of this country is only like 12%. A school shouldnt strive to accept more students of a certain race unless they are way under represented. A news story came out saying they didnt find any DNA evidence of any of the players on the woman Story
Kakdiesel said:
thewanderer690 said:that is like the funniest thing i have seen all day especially how he gets up and starts dancin
that fucking turd ruined their whole season, got a player kicked out of school for that one email, and everyone loses a year of eligibilitycanadianhitman said:I hope they smack this ho with civil suits and smear her to the max...make her life miserable. Nothing worse perpetrating a hoax that could ruin lives.
Kakdiesel said:that fucking turd ruined their whole season, got a player kicked out of school for that one email, and everyone loses a year of eligibility
people in the media were trying to make them out to be cuz they were white and the poor slutbag was black and ghetto and that she wouldnt have been raped had she been white.Wootoom said:why the fuck are they racist?
Dial_tone said:They should make her walk the streets selling crackpussy to pay them damages.
4everhung said:strippers lie
that's what they do
Hengst said:another hate crime hoax.
mekannik said:Listening to NPR this morning - could not help but laugh at the end of the news article they reported on this. After stating that DNA testing exonerates any of the lacrosse team members, the reporter had taped interviews with two Duke students (both male) and two NC Central Universtiy students (both female).
And yes - the stereotypical voice patterns were evident. Two uppity, slightly snobbish white boys saying if the D.A. wants to keep digging, then say what evidence he is looking for, one more try, and then drop it if nothing/no one is singled out. The two black women interviewed said DNA testing is useless and they do not believe in it.
But at the very end, the NC Central U. student blew apart any credibility with: "DNA testing is bullshit".
How eloquently put.
spongebob said:i thought i just heard on the radio this morning that dna from samples match up? or did i get that wrong? im tired as hell.
Kakdiesel said:SPONGEBOB! whats up stranger? how are u man?
no you are tired as hell![]()
spongebob said:yep just got home from working 16 hrs so im drained.
wat up bro?
Kakdiesel said:damn man. thats hard work. my advice? seriously when i have days like that and get home in the morning
go to Mcdonalds
take a 15 dollars
but any assortment of breakfast food from Mickey D's with 15 dollars
make sure you get a few of their hashbrowns
bring it home, get in front of the TV with all your food
get a carton of Orange juice to wash it down with
Eat
you will sleep like a baby
4everhung said:strippers lie
that's what they do
dognutz said:This crying racism everytime a black person is injured somehow is tiring and boring. Does whitey cry racism every time he is injured by a black person?
Dial_tone said:I thought they took their clothes off.
Kakdiesel said:i cant help but laugh at this whole situation yet be angry for Duke University lacrosse team and their families.
i mean do people realize a kid got kicked out of DUKE over this shit? they better let him back in.
lololol @ all the duke students who protested against their own schoolmates.
big4life said:Read and learn please.
http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/427038.html
This is a program that nobody had control over. It was more or less a frat house that was on scholarship.
"Since 1999, records show, 41 Blue Devil lacrosse players -- about 31 percent of all players on the roster from then until now -- have been charged with a variety of rowdy and drunken acts"
Yes, it might just be college kids being college kids, but those statistics should have been a red flag warning the school that there was a lack of control.
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