Drums of War bangin' for Iran?

[juiceddreadlocks]

Hardly.

It is entertaining to say the least to watch how far people go in their spin attempts to justify what the rest of the world already knows. Clinging desperately to their own own fleeting images of delusions that things really are just the way they want them to be and that if they spin spin spin hard enough, everyone will see it that way too.

Come join the real world.

Listen, I was just asking. Conservatives will always rule the world, that's all there is to it.

 

[AAP]

Listen, I was just asking. Conservatives will always rule the world, that's all there is to it.

Not unless Jesus comes back. We all know how that is going to go.

 

[Mavafanculo]

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Why do you suppose most members of the Armed Forces disagree as well? Are they all mind-numbed robots too? .................
Most of them have the skills to make much more money outside the Army. Yet they continue to enlist and renlist during a time of war........

Governor's Call For U.S. Withdrawal From Iraq Greeted With Standing Ovation At National Guard Conference

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico, Aug. 26, 2007

(AP) A call by Puerto Rico's governor for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq earned a standing ovation from a conference of more than 4,000 National Guardsmen.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/26/national/main3204570.shtml


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[redsamurai]

quoted for truth

Some here just don't have the balls to do what's right

what are you saying here? That those of us who disagree with the war in Iraq have no balls? Let me also inform you that the war has cost 10's of thousands of Iraqi civilian lives..........with some estimates from red cross getting close to 6 figures. I don't "want" to beleive red cross........I can't even fathom being part of a country that could perpetrate this against a nation of simple people for what is now obviously "dubious reasons". And all "conservative" and "peaceful, god fearing" people in this country are coming up with one mealy mouthed, feckless explanation for why the war was totally justified in the eyes of god despite our initial reasons being "not so truthful".

We don't have the "balls" to do what's right? And how exactly do explain "right"?? I'm not one for pulling out immediately because we royally fucked up that place and we have some obligation to fix it........but at some point we just have to concede we're fucking idiots and we don't have a firm intellectual grasp on the rest of the world. There's people out there that just don't want what we're selling and we just really need to get over that fact.

 

[redsamurai]

Hillary and others couldn't care less about the prosecution of the war and victory.

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and that in the end is all you and your kind really care about isn't it? "VICTORY"!!! Yet because of the complex nature of the beast called humanity............your so called victory is made of complete air. We're dealing with people that hold grudge's for "MILLENIA"!!!! Do you think if we start selling pepsi and coke to them that they'll just "forget abou it"??? This is exactly the problem with this administration which right now I'm almost positive you must be affiliated with in some way..................they have no vision, no clarity to understand that which they're dealing with. And it's going to bite all of us in the ass.

 

[redsamurai]

How many terrorists did they kill? They smacked some Hezbollah ass for a month, and I love the way Bush DICTATED to the rest of the G8 (who were meeting at the time) to let it continue for a while to let it sting some more.

dude, read a newspaper............even the Israeli newspapers were admitting disaster. And again, you just don't have it ole boy............you ask "how many terrorists did they kill?"..........like a thousand more aren't just around the corner. You really don't seem to grasp the situation.........I mean you really don't get it. Do you think Hezbollah was even throwing their top officers and soldiers at the Israeli's? They threw kids at them...........young boys eager for their 75 virgins..........and they still didn't do too bad. And yes ole boy.........Hezbollah is alive and well in Lebanon and run a good portion of the country. The lebanese military are the ones keeping them preoccupied right now or they probably would have launched another offensive against Israel because the first one was a BOOON for them...............please educate yourself better on current affairs.

 

[redsamurai]

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We need to stop them, we need to hit them hard. All they understand is force and their going to get it.

This is getting maddening.............dude.................your making the argument for having cleaned up afghanistan and maybe actually caught the head Towel named.........oh what's his face............yeah, bin laden. Instead we left to go take out Saddaam. Logically, according to your statements......you should be INFURIATED we left afghanistan which.....shocker..........is now experiencing a resurgance of Taliban and Al quaeda. So when all is said and done..............my god did we fuck up. Our war in Iraq didn't make a single fucking dent........not one dent........in Al quaeda's ability to generate income, plan attacks, train folks...........NOTHING!!! I mean fuck.............can we at some point drop a logic bomb into this debate and wake the fuck up?? Nobody is doubting we've got a problem that has to be dealt with..............but invading one country after another isn't going to work. And I hate to break it to you..........but this is one war that the military can't win.........it's not their battlefield. This is a covert war that is only going to be won by our intelligence services................end of story.

 

[redsamurai]

Actually, Falwell and Phelps are Republican conservatives. That was their mantra. That we deserved 9-11.

that's right..........didn't he and robertson say that it was the rampant man on man action in this country that got us 9/11?? My god.......people listen to these clowns............this country isn't going to last.............sorry, it isn't.

 

[redsamurai]

1) You are contradicing yourself, c'mon no reasonable "right" winger believes gays and promiscuity caused 9/11 that's just non sense. :

you don't listen to your own people very much............because actually that's exactly what they say.

 

[redsamurai]

Listen, I was just asking. Conservatives will always rule the world, that's all there is to it.

I hate to disrupt your fantasy..........but the people who rule the world are hardly conservative. They do what they want, when they want, wherever they want. That means all the things that get us thrown in prison.......they do at will. Conservatism has become merely a smokescreen to guilt people into following some flawed moral ideology resembling neofascism.