Drums of War bangin' for Iran?

[Mavafanculo]

1) Exaggerated...9/11 I remember, oh but of course we "deserved" it according to the "radical left" Put up the list of terrorist attacks against the US...do we need to?

Strawman argument. no reasonable leftie argues that "we deserved it". not me either lol.

AAP got it right - it was the Christo-Fascist rigthwing that said the gays and promiscuity "...brought God's wrath upon NYC..." oollloooolloooo fucking tools

2) Yep, Bush wants to attack and prosecute innocent "citizens".

not the point. If they wanted to degrade the bill of rights and lessen civil liberties vs US citizens they should have made the case on the merits and not used the backdoor of "we need these tools vs the terrorists" and then use them vs US citizens in routine criminal cases.

3) Toast already..pass that along to the troops and their families. I think the will give you a different outlook to what's really going on there. If any one thinks the US military "can't" win in combat, their "mis guided". Funny how the left says "if we win in Iraq it's bad for us politically". Go terrorist

ur mixing apples and grapefruits. Conflating = bush/longhorn trying to tie 9/11 and sadaam and iraq together in people minds.

nobody said we cant "win" with military strength. but win what? do you know what the point of the surge was? The latest NIE says we're making military gains, and the surge and our Iraq involvement is failing and likely doomed.

nobody says "go terrorist", and also, according to our Intel Services, "al queda" and "terrorists" are a small part of the mess that we're fighting against in Iraq. But FAUXNEWS is doing its part to confuse the issues apparantly.


4) Iraqi terrorist, oh wait that's right there are no "Iraqi" terrorists, "nice" fellas", have been found trying to cross the Mexican border into the US.

see above

Talk about putting your head in the sand. Mav your a smart guy and at least can argue your side intelligently without the normal name calling. But, let's face the facts, we are in a war with Radical Islamic's who want to KILL Americans period. We need to stop them, we need to hit them hard. All they understand is force and their going to get it.


agree -

The talking heads have done a good job of confusing people into thinking if ur against the war in iraq you're against defeating terrorism. sad but oolllooollooolo -

Iraq was and is a diversion to the war vs terrorism. its like as if we bombed Iceland when Pearl Harbor was attacked. Iraq has little/nothing to do with defeating islamic terrorists. The NIE's have said we're helping them not hurting them by our involvement in Iraq.

You gonna believe them (CIA, DIA, State Dept, etc) or the Bush apologists and the talking heads on FAUX?

people on my side arent against war, they're against THIS war. A sad waste of time money and blood. Cheney's war profiteer buddies are pretty happy about things tho....

This isnt a black and white thing. even tho Bush "...doesnt do nuance..." ( ), thinking people must.

see my response in red above ...

 

[bw1]

1) You are contradicing yourself, c'mon no reasonable "right" winger believes gays and promiscuity caused 9/11 that's just non sense. It was a attack on our country, way of life and freedom. We need to respond, with deadly force. Where ever that takes us.

2) Again, Bush wants to prosecute innocent civilians Left wants to give "terrorists, civil rights and attorneys..give me a break.

3) You first must have military victory....then a functioning stable country can evolve.

4) No diversion, who do you think we are fighting over there?

Go to get to the office, have a good day Mav. Oh get Mikchael Savage's book, liberalism is a disease" Maybe I'll send it to you for Christmas, lololol

 

[Mavafanculo]

1) You are contradicing yourself, c'mon no reasonable "right" winger believes gays and promiscuity caused 9/11 that's just non sense.

when are you guys gonna learn I dont make stuff up? lol

and you're right. only crazy people believe stuff like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_8d...=en&newwindow=1&num=100&btnG=Google+Search&as


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Rev. Jerry Falwell (with Rev. Pat Robertson)
blames pagans, abortionists, feminists
& gays and lesbians & the ACLU for bringing on the
terrorist attacks in New York and Washington

Partial transcript of comments from the
September 13, 2001 telecast of the 700 Club

JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected us so wonderfully these 225 years. And since 1812, this is the first time that we've been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results. And I fear, as Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, said yesterday, that this is only the beginning. And with biological warfare available to these monsters -- the Husseins, the Bin Ladens, the Arafats -- what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact -- if, in fact -- God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.

PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population.

JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well yes.

JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system..

JERRY FALWELL: Pat, did you notice yesterday the ACLU and all the Christ-haters, People For the American Way, NOW, etc. were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress as they went out on the steps and called out on to God in prayer and sang "God Bless America" and said "let the ACLU be hanged". In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time - calling upon God. ~~~

PAT ROBERTSON: > Amen





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[Mavafanculo]

1) .... We need to respond, with deadly force. Where ever that takes us.

That was Afghanistan (or Afstanighan as the imbicile called it). Then we pulled out early to prepare for the fake war in iraq

2) Again, Bush wants to prosecute innocent civilians Left wants to give "terrorists, civil rights and attorneys..give me a break.

NOOOOOOOOOO.

In america, you're still innocent until proven guilty.

point is they are using the "tools they need vs terrorists..." in ORDINARY CRIMINAL CASES against your neighbors, not just terror cases.



3) You first must have military victory....then a functioning stable country can evolve.

Tell that to our combined Intel Services. You know better than them?

4) No diversion, who do you think we are fighting over there?
Research that question. and source it. then maybe you'll change your mind about Iraq.

Go to get to the office, have a good day Mav. Oh get Mikchael Savage's book, liberalism is a disease" Maybe I'll send it to you for Christmas, lololol

I wont ruin your day and tell you about Savages 60's history. whooooo heeeee oololloollo

see red

 

[rnch]

when are you guys gonna learn I dont make stuff up?[/I]





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unlike longhorn......

 

[Powerbuilder333]

That would require terrorists, no?

Which were not in Iraqi before we got there. Where did Iraqi terrorists attack us? I must have missed that one.

Actually Iraqi terrorists at the command of Sadaam tried to kill former President Bush while he was visiting Kuwait. Clintion responded with a lame cruise missile strike. Enough with the HISTORY lesson.
It's time to stop looking backwards in time, and look FORWARD towards a victory against terrorists - wherever they may be. Constantly hand wringing and nitpicking about details that happened yesterday doesn't do US any good.

 

[AAP]

Actually Iraqi terrorists at the command of Sadaam tried to kill former President Bush while he was visiting Kuwait.

Kuwait = not American soil.

You can not apply that reasoning with the harped on threat that was shoved down the throats of everyone about WMDs being used on Americans in American cities.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

AAP why you so butthurt?

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Americans are Americans wherever they stand. A threat to one of us is a threat to all of us.
I'm not talking about a tourist robbed for his wallet. I'm talking about soldiers being bombed in a German bar, airplanes being blown up over the skies of Scotland, and assasination attempts on ex Presidents.
Wherever Americans are the victims of terrorism, we must strike back against the assailants.

 

[AAP]

AAP why you so butthurt?

Hardly.

It is entertaining to say the least to watch how far people go in their spin attempts to justify what the rest of the world already knows. Clinging desperately to their own own fleeting images of delusions that things really are just the way they want them to be and that if they spin spin spin hard enough, everyone will see it that way too.

Come join the real world.