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Do most of you guys change out the needle after you draw and before you inject? That's what I've been doing, but I hate losing the oil that's in the needle. Wondering if there is a popular opinion here one way or the other.
Drawing and Pinning - Change Needles Or Not?
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tha_Waco_kid
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It'll definitely hurt a lot less if you put a fresh needle on. I can't imagine there is much gear lost by swapping the needle.
CynicDream
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There are about 3 little droplets remaining in your needle after you swap. Lets be real here.
What you do after you draw with the needle is pull the needle half way back to suck most of the oil in after you draw your amount.. Then you hold the syringe upright with needle pointed up and tap the syringe a few times to loosen up the rest of the little bit of oil then draw it all the way back. There should be at most 2 drops left in that needle after doing this
What you do after you draw with the needle is pull the needle half way back to suck most of the oil in after you draw your amount.. Then you hold the syringe upright with needle pointed up and tap the syringe a few times to loosen up the rest of the little bit of oil then draw it all the way back. There should be at most 2 drops left in that needle after doing this
ALWAYS change the needle after drawing. If you don't you set yourself up for bad PIP, and possibly even abscesses. Sterility can also be an issue as well. The last thing you should worry about is the minuscule amount of oil in the drawing needle.
I change my pins to draw/inject but it's not necessary.
I've done it without and there is no noticeable difference. If you're doing proper injection technique changing the pin really isn't necessary other than maybe offering some peace of mind.
how many times have you been to your physician and they changed out needles after drawing before giving you an injection?
I've done it without and there is no noticeable difference. If you're doing proper injection technique changing the pin really isn't necessary other than maybe offering some peace of mind.
how many times have you been to your physician and they changed out needles after drawing before giving you an injection?
Also, when you draw with an 18 it is just easier to pull the gear into the pin. This make a big difference when you are running a cycle with 2 compounds at 1cc each twice a week.
If I'm drawing from one bottle, or 5, I still change needles. Just one push through the stopper can dull the needle
Good fucking point, Ive never seen a needle change at the doctors office. they kinda know what the hell theyre doing also
this. I change needles for the hubs pins because I've hit myself with a dull needle and it sucks serious shit.
tha_Waco_kid
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My dr / RN always changes the pin. Many times they will walk in with a pre loaded pin so you can't see if they switched them - but they told me they switch them. I have also seen them do it right in front of me. Always change out the pin. My RN that gives my injections says they are taught to change the needles in their training.
at the end of the day it is really just a matter of pain. Pins are so cheap why not switch them and make injecting as pleasant as possible?
freakshow85
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Even if I have to use the same sizes pin to pull as I do to inject, I change that sucker out. Sterility is my reason. Even thought I wipe my vials with alcohol, etc., that sucker goes deep down in ya, so I'd like to know the whole thing is clean.
dangerboy857
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Must resist....
"THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!"
I'm an immature 13 year old at heart, I can't help it.
you want the edge of the needle to be fresh.. even if it touches the plastic cover i change it.. even if i draw out of an amp and it touches the bottom of the glass i change it!! never inject yourself unless its a sharp and fresh needle that hasn't touched anything else.
now as far as drawing I have no problems drawing with a needle that is clean and using it to draw again and then obviously switching out the needles for a fresh one to inject. as long as the needle is not used or dropped etc you can draw with the same one. the odds of getting an infection are so slim that it would take a miracle doing it that way. but obviously I am not gonna inject with the same needle that i used to draw, as i said ALWAYS you want a fresh needle to inject. and throw out the needle you used to inject, don't re use that one to draw.
the drawing needle should never be mixed up with the injecting needles.
now as far as drawing I have no problems drawing with a needle that is clean and using it to draw again and then obviously switching out the needles for a fresh one to inject. as long as the needle is not used or dropped etc you can draw with the same one. the odds of getting an infection are so slim that it would take a miracle doing it that way. but obviously I am not gonna inject with the same needle that i used to draw, as i said ALWAYS you want a fresh needle to inject. and throw out the needle you used to inject, don't re use that one to draw.
the drawing needle should never be mixed up with the injecting needles.
KillaBig
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It's not necessary at all if you get a flu shot or any other shot from a hospital they don't change the needle after drawing.
It's more of comfort thing especially if your drawing from multiple vials and pinning often.
yeah, that was my point.
Nothing wrong w/doing it that way if it give you peace of mind, but to say it's necessary is false.
newtotheaasworld
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Sterile technique is the fundamental here. Open fresh alcohol pad and wipe the vial stopper for 10-15 seconds. It is now sterile. Open needle package remove needle cap. Aim thru the center of the sterile stopper, invert & draw. Obviously, don't impact the bottom of the vial with the needle.
Draw the product to correct level. Aspirate any air bubbles, wipe injection site with alcohol pad 10-15 seconds and inject.
YOU CAN SWAP NEEDLES IF; USING MULTIPLE VIALS OR YOU'RE SENSITIVE TO PAIN. There is no sterility issue, however.
I 've just used one needle most of the time and have hundreds of injections under my belt and never any issue. (23 gauge 1 1/2" needle in 3 ml syringe)
The needle remains sterile as long as you don't touch it or lay it down. The contents of the vial are sterile so as long as stopper has been properly wiped, needle stays sterile.
YES it does slightly dull the needle but it is still plenty sharp to pierce the skin, it does hurt about 10% more than a virgin needle, but that's nothing compared to the gym.
ps I have been injected by doctors, never once saw them waste a needle...
Draw the product to correct level. Aspirate any air bubbles, wipe injection site with alcohol pad 10-15 seconds and inject.
YOU CAN SWAP NEEDLES IF; USING MULTIPLE VIALS OR YOU'RE SENSITIVE TO PAIN. There is no sterility issue, however.
I 've just used one needle most of the time and have hundreds of injections under my belt and never any issue. (23 gauge 1 1/2" needle in 3 ml syringe)
The needle remains sterile as long as you don't touch it or lay it down. The contents of the vial are sterile so as long as stopper has been properly wiped, needle stays sterile.
YES it does slightly dull the needle but it is still plenty sharp to pierce the skin, it does hurt about 10% more than a virgin needle, but that's nothing compared to the gym.
ps I have been injected by doctors, never once saw them waste a needle...
I always change them out. I never did before but for that extra piece of mind I do now. I don't think it matters. The needle is a bit more dull and can hurt more.
Gerhard van Lamp
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I use 18 gauge needles. Definitely swop it out before injection. No point taking any chances or having a blunt needle.
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Mr. Chicago
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I use the same simply bc when I draw I like to overdraw so then I could push the extra along with the bubbles back into the vial and then you're good to go.
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