Dragonmona is hitting a wall!!!

[Inkman69]

Hey everyone. My GF Dragonmona is having a bit of trouble. Her goals are simple. Lose fat gain muscle mass get rid of all of the jiggles on her body. As you might recall from her pics she has a thick build and legs to match. She did very well the first year and a half going from size 13 to size 3,4 148lbs to 129lbs but now she is stuck in fat loss limbo. Her weight fluxs 3 to 4 lbs several times a week and she is always feeling like she is full of water retention.

She has been trying to burn the fat off of her legs along with her abs and glutes and the rest of her body but the results are painfully slow for her and in the last 3-4 months no real changes can be seen even tho she has lost a few pounds. She is eating very clean and training very hard, along with cardio 3 times a week 50 mins and weight training 3 times a week 2 bodyparts a session and using a homemade ECA stack. Not a damn change that we can see in her bf levels. diet is 120grams pro, 50-100 grams of carbs rotation and 30 grams of healthy fats with one eat up meal a week total cals around 1350 for BW of 129lbs

I was wondering she likes to train heavy with low reps. Is this causing her to bulk instead of cut even tho she is on a clean strict diet? Would she be better off using lighter lbs and higher weights and bumping the protien up to 1.5 grams a lb? and tossing in something to combat her estrogen levels such as anavar or primoblen depot? At 40 we suspect she might be premenapause and her homones are going nuts and it could be hampering her efforts to lose water and fat. What do you ladies and some of you well informed men think? Inkman

 

[jnuts]

how much water is she drinking per day?

 

[Inkman69]

She is drinking 1 to 1 1/2 gallons of water a day. Spatterson I know thier is no such thing as target fat loss I just wanted to point out her trouble areas which have not really changed in the last year. I will post her complete diet by this weekend after I talk to her. You might be right about her not eating enough but when we bumped her up to 2000 a day she started bulking like crazy?? right now she is getting so frustrated that she is ready to throw in the towel and quit. With genetics like hers that would be a damn shame.. We have even tried t3 and clen with barely visible results just made her hungry and caused her to cheat to much LOL. I really love this women and I want her to reach her goals cause she deserves it. Please help her if you can..Ink

 

[Dingo12]

Sounds like her body has got used to a very low level of kcal intake. Firstly increase and expand her weight split to 4 days. Make sure she is lifting heavy, increase protein to 150g per day- this will maintain and help her increase her muscle mass which will increase metabolism and help burn more energy/fat stores.

Increase kcals to 1500 then 1750 kcals per day - this will release her body from presuming it is in starvation mode and allow further fat loss.

Rotataing carbs on a 3 off, 2 on split will also help confuse her body into letting go of it's fat reserves. Something like 100g complex carbs for 3 days followed by 200g mixed carbs for 2 days will achieve this.

Try doing cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach.

Lifting heavy will NOT prevent fat loss - it will increase it.

How tall is she?

What is her bf%? Knowing these stats would really help us give more specific advice.

 

[Dingo12]

Also how long did you try upping to 2000kcals for? Initially going from such a low kcal/carb diet will result in water retention as the muscle increase carb reserves. After 4-6 weeks this will reduce dramatically as the body gets used to this level of maintainance kcals and she may even lose some more weight/fat.

 

[Inkman69]

Dingo12 she is 5 tall bf is around mid to high 20's. Maybe her pic will help you determine that. Look under dragonmona new pics on the members pic section. She is currently 40 years old which I know will also hamper things a bit but she had made some excellent progress until lately. You will see what I mean. Ink

 

[BigEasy]

Ink,

Quick ramblings....

Spats, I think, is heading the same direction you and I discussed last nite. If she has been on a k-calorie deficit diet for too long, her metabolism has likely slowed to 'starvation' mode. I know she was on carb rotation, but without sufficient k-cals, she will still go into starvation mode, just not as quickly.

Try a short, natural, 'bulk' phase to break out of the rut. She will gain a little fat, but if she continues to progress as well as in the past, she will gain muscle easily and be primed for cutting.

If her frame and metabolism will allow her to keep adding more muscle, then go for it until the gains slow. When another plateau is reached you can follow up with a cutting cycle. After the natural cutting phase starts to bottom out, THEN use the yohimbine HCL, NCY, anavar, etc. I prefer not to pull out the big guns right away.

As far as the peri-menopause goes, estrogen levels should be lower it that is the case. Reduced estrogen would assist cutting the thighs and butt. Watch out for sides with AAS if estrogen is very low. Fat redistribution from female/estrogenic to male/abdominal would be one such warning sign, I believe.

Rome wasn't built in a day.....

 

[Inkman69]

Spatterson you are right we have talked about this before. She swears she is on progam now for the last few months with no crap. Her food choices are oatmeal, ground trukey, tuna salad, chicken, lean beef, low carb protein shakes, egg whites. Her only cheat foods are nuts!! Do you call 1350 low cals for a BW of 129lbs? If so then maybe she is too low.

Can you explain the 3:2 rotation to me and how do I go about finding her BMR or at least a ballpark figure.

Big easy are you going to chat later tonight I really need to talk to you about this in more detail my poor women is pulling her hair out right now and getting overwelmed from too many people and to many different answers. Ink

 

[Inkman69]

thanks for the help Spatterson and everyone else here. Just one more question. How come when I want to cut for a show I just drop my kcals from 5000 to 2000 add cardio and drop fat like crazy but when Dragonmona drops her kcals her body does not allow her to lose fat?? I don't get it. Is it becuase I have a fast vs her slow metab? Inkman

 

[Inkman69]

Oh LOL. I just talked to her on the phone. Man is she pissed about not getting the results she wants. I told her it just takes time to get around the wall she has hit. It's just a learning process that we all have to go through. Every time we hit a wall we have to find a way to go around it. It is a never ending process and it requires patiance and consistancy. I do feel for her tho some people tell her to eat more some tell her to eat less she is getting confused and overloaded from all the info.Thanks all.. Inkman