I know i'm not totally drug free. NEither are most of your natural bodybuilders, just staying a statement that I have been clean for about 3-months and my gains have been holding good and getting stronger, All I'm trying to say is it is possible to make good gains while your on your down time. Any body wishing to train with me is more then welcome. AS I said before its not the drugs that make the bodybuilder, but hard work, consistency, and knowing about nutritiion proper training and rest. I'm not a mister know it like half of you people imply on being experts. I will admit there is a good hand fu of people that do have speciality in certain areas, but I always try to keep an open mind about every thing one hear.