I don't recall anyone ever picking my friends for me. If i had friends my parents were suspicious of, they might tell me that but they never told me i wasn't allowed to be friends with anyone.
Likewise, my son has always chosen his own friends. Now, there have been one or two that i have said can't spend the night bc they're too hyper/obnoxious. When he gets to HS, i'll keep an eye on who he is hanging out with. If i really think someone is a bad influence or a bad kud, i'll tell him what i think. The kid would have to be up to no good/criminal/dangerous/using drugs for me to ban him as a friend. I guess we'll see how it all pans out
Mine did, or tried. I never picked friends that were good enough for my father. When I was picking up Abby yesterday my Dad made a comment that kids are not developed enough to make good choices until they are 20 (!) and that parents should have a major role and be able to control who they spend their time around because one bad influence could ruin their lives. I completely disagree, and we kinda got in a small argument over it lol. Just curious if I was the only one that thought that kids and teens should be free to choose who they spend time with outside of a major bad influences, and even then I'm not sure how much control a parent has over it.
Yes I do. I also think they should be allowed to choose their own religion. That being said I hope my kid doesn't want to be mormon.
That's partly true.
But it doesn't matter because you can't shelter a kid. I think sometimes if you don't let your kid make mistakes early in life, they'll make them later...usually with worse repercussions as an adult. Just my opinion. I don't have kids yet but that's how I think I'll play it.
My best friends mom banned her from being friends with me in 8th grade. We stayed friends secretly for like a year. Had a falling out. Became friends again in college and now were Besties again.
That was ridiculous and for a ridiculous reason
I don't think parents should have a say unless a friendship actually becomes harmful.
What was the reason that your best friends mom banned her from being friends with you?
Bc I introduced her to this kid Justin who my friend in public school introduced me to. And my friend was like in love with this kid so she would save their IMs and stuff. Then one day, her mom decided to check her emails and stuf and found an IM from him saying something about how the boys at our Catholic school were pussies an she didn't like that word. So she banned ME from seeing her, as if that made sense. I wasn't even in the conversation. She called my parents to tell them too.
And my parents didn't do shit to me bc I obv didn't do anything.
And she secretly "dated" that kid for like 7 months which is a lifetime in 13-14 year old time.
Wow, thats pretty overbearing. I was banned from being best friends with my kindred spirited soulmate best friend after being friends with her for years. The reason he gave was that our friendship was becoming too intense and she wasn't a Christian and we were not "equally yoked" and I lost it and my Dad and I became enemies for a short while.
I can't believe he still thinks he did the right thing. Pissed me off a little. hahaha.
Christianity at its best!!
Wow, thats pretty overbearing. I was banned from being best friends with my kindred spirited soulmate best friend after being friends with her for years. The reason he gave was that our friendship was becoming too intense and she wasn't a Christian and we were not "equally yoked" and I lost it and my Dad and I became enemies for a short while.
I can't believe he still thinks he did the right thing. Pissed me off a little. hahaha.
If so, always? What age are they old enough to choose their own friends? What if they choose a friend you think is a bad influence?
Feedz got caught sucking her friend's dad's uncut cock.
They get to choose.
But I get to veto as long as I have a valid reason based on facts.
They get to choose.
But I get to veto as long as I have a valid reason based on facts.


yeah...like...because i fucking said so
our girls are getting a little older now so we occassionally sit them down and make sure they understand the reason for some of our decisions but, it's still a totalitarian regime...and by totalitarian i mean, my wife is in charge of domestic affairs and we all do wtf she says...or else
if mama ain't happy, nobody's happy, capiche??
Truth be told, yeah -- it is because I say so.
But especially as they get older (11+), I do share some of my reasoning with them.
yup...the girls turned 12 in april...and they're real friggin' smart...we sit down and explain shit to them all the time...we have to...we made them smart...we taught them to ask questions...we taught them to look for the reasons why...we taught them to not accept things for face value...so, sure, we give explanations but they know where the rubber meets the road.
God help your soul.
They're perfect till around 11. Then they lose their minds for a few years.
You'll know when it starts. They'll turn on their mother first.

done...they were all yelling at each other this morning (like they do every morning) before church and i was in the bathroom brushing my son's teeth...he spit in the sink and then looked at me and said "dad...i want a brother"...i about pissed my pants laughing![]()
I think it's awesome when kids say something on point like that often they are so much smarter than they are given credit for. I think it's awesome when kids say something on point like that often they are so much smarter than they are given credit for.
I'd agree with what most have said they are aloud to pick there friends within reason if someone is a real screw up and it affects your child than you get veto for sure.
As for picking your religion I mean do you really have a choice? I was raised catholic you get baptized when you are a baby any choice there? No
Then I went to catholic school and really all your friends are doing first communion at 7 are you going to say no? Probably not than when you are 14 confirmation again all your friends are doing it they put fun retreats around it you are probably not going to say no either.
Now I am not really anything. I believe in faith but not in the biblical sense.
yeah...like...because i fucking said so
our girls are getting a little older now so we occassionally sit them down and make sure they understand the reason for some of our decisions but, it's still a totalitarian regime...and by totalitarian i mean, my wife is in charge of domestic affairs and we all do wtf she says...or else
if mama ain't happy, nobody's happy, capiche??

Lol cute
That is no way how it went down at my house when I was younger. Now he's older he has settled down and I notice my Mom is running things now.
Would you tell a 15-16 year old kid they couldn't hang out with their best friend because you said so?

cross that bridge when i get to it, i s'pose...but, generally speaking...is the best friend a heroin addict? then, yes i ABSolutely would...and if need be, i'd make said best friend disappear. but, is the best friend a different religion or just some odd-ball (e.g., gothic, artsy-fartsy, outcast) or gay or a liberal-treehugging-democrat or whatever? then, no...that would be stepping out of bounds imho...however, with that said, i would respectfully defer to what-ever-the-hell my wife says, cuz she's gonna have the final word anyway.![]()
Lol
I'll always have a soft spot for Catholic men, usually right next to a strong woman.![]()
off topic, but...carrie underwood was on letterman last monday and dang! you really DO look like her!
Lol, Was she really?I get that a lot. I think she looks like my sister...who is my twin so I must look like her too. Lol. When I visited the Titanic museum the tour guide thought I actually was Carrie, seriously. That was weird. Hahaha.
That is the first time I've heard that song before. I love it!
I think it's awesome when kids say something on point like that often they are so much smarter than they are given credit for.
I'd agree with what most have said they are aloud to pick there friends within reason if someone is a real screw up and it affects your child than you get veto for sure.
As for picking your religion I mean do you really have a choice? I was raised catholic you get baptized when you are a baby any choice there? No
Then I went to catholic school and really all your friends are doing first communion at 7 are you going to say no? Probably not than when you are 14 confirmation again all your friends are doing it they put fun retreats around it you are probably not going to say no either.
Now I am not really anything. I believe in faith but not in the biblical sense.
When I was picking up Abby yesterday my Dad made a comment that kids are not developed enough to make good choices until they are 20 (!)
It's actually more like 25. Frontal lobe development takes some time, generally longer than the rest of the brain. That's the part that is related to decision making, planning (long-term thinking), assessing risk, etc.
That's why you can't rent a car until you're 25.![]()
or you know...risk assessment models based on statistical evidence of age groups and accident correlation..

It wasn't something that I sat down and thought through, it was like an involuntary response.Religion/spirituality is going to be about what the kid sees you do not what you say. If the kid sees you active and finding fulfillment in your spirituality (whatever that may be) they're going to ask questions and probably want to participate ... now, when they get to be teenagers that may change but most children actually like the idea of deity and find a great deal of comfort in spiritual concepts (at least I found my son did).Completely agree MM. I figure, I have until she is about 7. I did many things to my father just out of spite.It wasn't something that I sat down and thought through, it was like an involuntary response.
I don't care how hard you try, you can't force someone to be a certain religion. My Dad would sit me down and talk to me for HOURS about a God I didn't know and didn't care about. Why the hell should I care about being equally yoked? I didn't. You can't tell someone to care about something, I don't think anyway.
Reality is that you have to make a lot of decisions before 25. IMO making all choices for kids just tells them they can't be trusted to use their own judgment. I give Abby freedom to make choices in any area I can, like what she wears and what and if she eats.
neurobiology major...got it...
but you werent concise
and Im taking issue with bullshit today given that I woke up to be called a hogthat I didn't think was amusing..at all

Absolutely no reason to bother if it's not something you want in your life, remember what I said about actions speaking louder than words?so should we start finding some kind of religion for our kids' sakes?
nah, nm.
Absolutely no reason to bother if it's not something you want in your life, remember what I said about actions speaking louder than words?
I saw that "hog house" thread. This whole time I thought I was reading it wrong. It was "dog house", correct? At least I think it was.
lol if it got changed.
I'm not arguing with you btw.Just sayin about the brain thing. For future reference on that, please ask shirlene. She's the expert!!!!111#1
I was up all night due to a crying baby. I can barely read the screen.
well i guess when it comes to picking friends i think it's ok. some parents just are bad but others aren't. i just know that parents can usually pick up when kids are up to no good. i may have hated some of my parents rules growing up, but now I can appreciate it. I also didn't have strict baptist parents though.
dude...you guys are fucked....my 13 yr old ...thats years, not months
got up last night screaming because shes cutting molars of some variety
dude...you guys are fucked....my 13 yr old ...thats years, not months
got up last night screaming because shes cutting molars of some variety
motrin? saving the good stuff for yourself?idk if its wisdom teeth or what...i was about that age when my wisdom teeth were coming in
I felt really bad for her...loaded her up on ibuprofen and gave her a benadryl cap hoping it would relax the muscles in her jaw cuz I could see her whole face was tight
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