Do you only count meat or whey for dail protein amounts?

[javaguru]

Plants have the highest levels of naturally occuring glutamine in nature. Are you saying glutamine from plants does nothing as opposed to glutamine from beef? Studies done by the WHO have shown diets consisting almost exclusively of grains are capable of meeting the protein needs of human beings as long as EAA protein requirements are met. The idea of "incomplete" proteins is a misnomer, wheat contain ALL of the essential amino acids but at less than optimal amounts. However, so does meat and fish. Only dairy and eggs contain all the essential amino acids in optimal amounts as measured by the PCDAAS. If you're eating a typical bodybuilder protein diet you can safely count all grams of protein with full confidence. If you're bodybuilding and consuming a diet consisting of the RDI of protein you better only be eating eggs/ dairy and shouldn't be counting plant proteins and your results will still probaly be limited.

 

[abarlament]

Yup. That's in info that Lyle's giving out too.

 

[billy boob]

is there such a thing as a useless amino acid? count them all!!!!!!!!!
they will all float around in your blood loooking for a job. if you eat veggie protein in the day with any complete source you will get what you need. the liver can convert these aminos into the correct sequnece to meet the bodies special balance in the blood and for tissues.
besides if you where goinmg to be that anal about it than you could say that meat was useless because it had more than just the essential amino acids. as we all now only the essential amino acids and glutamine comprise muscle tissue. therefore we should only eat essential amino acid powder and glutamine????? bullshit! just make sure you get in good complete sources with your veggie sources, you will be fine. besides your body will only use a small portion of that huge amino acid pool for muscle gain (ex. out of 300 grams you may get 75 for muscle gain and the rest for, enzymes, hormones, cell regeneration, hair, and then the rest will enter the cori cycle and be turned into glucose, and that would generally all of those extra aminos that dont fall into the essential or glutamine group......) As weightlifters our bodies adapt to proteins use and oover time we can use less protein to get the job done (for recovery)! however this is not to say to stay large and ripped not to eat that 300 grams because it is vital to keep that intake high!

 

[Blu Steel]

I would just count the complete protein sources from meats, whey etc. At least you know for a fact those will be doing there job. Personally, I count only protein from foods that I eat for protein, carbs from foods that are my carb sources, and so on. If I get more in any column, I know that they are just a little bit more quality calories, and they will help me.