do you guys think that stay-at-home mom is a full time job?

[foreigngirl]

Just wondering what your views on that are.

I know that I get tired like mentally. Hardly wait to ship the kids off to bed so I can have some quite time by myself. But I have to admit that it was way harder when I worked AND took care of the kid and husband and the house.

 

[KillahBee]

YES. it is different than the typical "job", but it is still EXTREMELY difficult. no matter how much money my father made or how hard he worked, I would have NEVER turned out like this if it wasn't for my mother.

 

[theoak01]

hell yes,and its one id never be able to handle

 

[foreigngirl]

YES. it is different than the typical "job", but it is still EXTREMELY difficult. no matter how much money my father made or how hard he worked, I would have NEVER turned out like this if it wasn't for my mother.

did your mom stayed at home til you guys went to school or she was still at home to help you with homeworks and stuff?

 

[habitualhealth]

Definitely. The only job that never stops. You can't leave it in the office or close the books. At least you have support. (ie: husband)


Being a mom is the coolest most rewarding job in the world....the benefits kick ass.

 

[curling]

yea, it is a tough job if you do it all the way. The woman should also iron her man's shirts, mow the yard, take out the trash. And the guy should weedeating.

 

[KillahBee]

did your mom stayed at home til you guys went to school or she was still at home to help you with homeworks and stuff?

stay at home is stay at home. all day, all night

 

[KillahBee]

Definitely. The only job that never stops.

I wouldn't say that. NO need to start comparing types of jobs like that. Every type of job is difficult in its own way.

 

[KIAN]

It's a full-time job.
It's the hardest job.

And it's the BEST job.

 

[habitualhealth]

I wouldn't say that. NO need to start comparing types of jobs like that. Every type of job is difficult in its own way.

Oh gees shoulda known mr. big swingin' dick would show up. Could you pull the 'literal' cob out of your ass please.


When you become a mom...talk to me.

 

[foreigngirl]

stay at home is stay at home. all day, all night

I ment did she start working after you started school

 

[Raina]

Yes! What my mom did was a 24-7 job up until we were both out of the house. That's the ultimate sacrifice. If I ever had kids it's what I would want to do.

 

[bigmann245]

i was a stay at home dad for the past year. i go to school during the morning and i work nights now, but i am here for my son when he gets out of school and i make sure we do homework together. i cook dinner still, i clean, i do laundry (sometimes), and all the yardwork. yes it is a tough job. but if done right it is so rewarding.

 

[chefbone]

No it's not. It's a responsibility not a job! Do you get paid to be a Mom?
LOL....I think not.

 

[KillahBee]

Oh gees shoulda known mr. big swingin' dick would show up. Could you pull the 'literal' cob out of your ass please.


When you become a mom...talk to me.

you see, you are being ridiculously immature and short sighted here. not one person came in here having to "qualify" what they do against what others do. shit, I came on here and gave mad props to moms, mine especially. But when you come in and start saying being a mom is tougher than this or that you sound like a child. Every job is tough in its own right - grow up. A stay at home mom is no better than a working dad and vice versa

 

[habitualhealth]

No it's not. It's a responsibility not a job! Do you get paid to be a Mom?
LOL....I think not.

depends on your opinion of a payout..

 

[230lbs]

Just wondering what your views on that are.

I know that I get tired like mentally. Hardly wait to ship the kids off to bed so I can have some quite time by myself. But I have to admit that it was way harder when I worked AND took care of the kid and husband and the house.

It is such a full time job.....especially if you are the mother of two or more...1 is fun and exciting and a little bit hectic...two or more !!! a whole lot hectic with a little bit of excitement and fun thrown in.
The world needs more stay at home moms...the kids are smarter and more social as well as better behaved.

 

[foreigngirl]

No it's not. It's a responsibility not a job! Do you get paid to be a Mom?
LOL....I think not.

lol..chef, if we dont get paid it doesnt mean that we dont work. Its 24/7 work and never stops, cause you have to take care of the husband and the house too.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I was a stay at home dad for a while, was easy and I loved it.

When your efficient about cleaning and errands it doesnt take you eight fucking hours to get three things done and then use it as an excuse why your too fucking tired to still be a spouse.

Housewives genereally disgust me and for the most part are really fucking lazy.

 

[bigmann245]

its funny how some people put a value on a job because of the income it produces. u might make millions but if ur kids are fucked up you failed in life. bitch all u want but we are not here to make as much money as possible. thats something we as humans came up with. but pro-creating is the most important thing. it seams the ones who talk down upon raising children as a job are the ones who dont have any kids or sit on their ass and dont contribute quality time. its not all about money. sure it helps but i would chose my family over my job anyday...

 

[habitualhealth]

you see, you are being ridiculously immature and short sighted here. not one person came in here having to "qualify" what they do against what others do. shit, I came on here and gave mad props to moms, mine especially. But when you come in and start saying being a mom is tougher than this or that you sound like a child. Every job is tough in its own right - grow up. A stay at home mom is no better than a working dad and vice versa

Let's define maturity for about 2 seconds ....name calling? badgering? I see mom did wonders with you.

I have more maturity in my f'king toe than to debate with your ignorant ass. Just because you gave "mad props" to your mother doesn't win you a gold star, yo.

No one said anything about tougher this and that...I said it's the only job the never stops. Likewise with a father. So, take your pansy ass comments and fuck with someone else.

 

[KillahBee]

Let's define maturity for about 2 seconds ....name calling? badgering? I see mom did wonders with you.

I have more maturity in my f'king toe than to debate with your ignorant ass. Just because you gave "mad props" to your mother doesn't win you a gold star, yo.

No one said anything about tougher this and that...I said it's the only job the never stops. Likewise with a father. So, take your pansy ass comments and fuck with someone else.

Damn you're scaring me. You go girl!

If you think it's the only job that never stops, then you need to work in a few more industries and jobs. Very short sighted. But I wouldn't expect you to have the mental capacity to figure all that out on your own. "Yeppers"

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Well. I dotn know.. I have 4 kids at home.. I was a stay at home dad with two..

it just wasnt that hard. I think a lot of women use it as an excuse because they think a few hours of effort every day equals wokring your ass of at some shit job. It doesnt.

Id give up work to go back to being a housedad ANY day of the week. Hell stay home, hang out with my kids and clean the house for an hour a day .. ANY DAY over coming to work. ANY DAY.

 

[habitualhealth]

u might make millions but if ur kids are fucked up you failed in life. it seams the ones who talk down upon raising children as a job are the ones who dont have any kids or sit on their ass and dont contribute quality time.

for reference please see killa, thanks.

 

[nycgirl]

ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I was a stay at home dad for a while, was easy and I loved it.
When your efficient about cleaning and errands it doesnt take you eight fucking hours to get three things done and then use it as an excuse why your too fucking tired to still be a spouse.

Housewives genereally disgust me and for the most part are really fucking lazy.

I'm glad you said this. I strongly agree. Time Management would cut down on the complaining.

Also, it kills me when they swear that they are way more busy than me or when compare their "job" to mine. My day does not begin at 9am and end at 5:30pm.

 

[bigmann245]

for reference please see killa, thanks.

tell me about it.....

 

[habitualhealth]

Damn you're scaring me. You go girl!

If you think it's the only job that never stops, then you need to work in a few more industries and jobs. Very short sighted. But I wouldn't expect you to have the mental capacity to figure all that out on your own. "Yeppers"

Ooohh and the blow connects. Swing a little harder next time.

Mental capacity? You're debating about something you have NO clue about. Just bc you shadowed your mother as a child doesn't grant you knowledge or "insight" on what being a mother/father is all about. Please tell me what job you've worked, all knowing one, where you were at it 24/7/365?

*anxiously awaits*

 

[chefbone]

lol..chef, if we dont get paid it doesnt mean that we dont work. Its 24/7 work and never stops, cause you have to take care of the husband and the house too.

It's a responsibility. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's easy but it def. isn't a job!

 

[foreigngirl]

I'm glad you said this. I strongly agree. Time Management would cut down on the complaining.

Also, it kills me when they swear that they are way more busy than me or when compare their "job" to mine. My day does not begin at 9am and end at 5:30pm.

My day starts at 7 am and dont end untill they go to sleep. THose 2 hours alone time I get is the only time-off.

I'm sure I'm not buisier than you but you get to come home and relax because you are childless. I was a working mom and now I'm stay-at-home. I am not phisycly tired, but mentaly

 

[bigmann245]

Ooohh and the blow connects. Swing a little harder next time.

Mental capacity? You're debating about something you have NO clue about. Just bc you shadowed your mother as a child doesn't grant you knowledge or "insight" on what being a mother/father is all about. Please tell me what job you've worked, all knowing one, where you were at it 24/7/365?

*anxiously awaits*

unless its a leap year. i dont want kb to get all technical on ya...

 

[nycgirl]

My day starts at 7 am and dont end untill they go to sleep. THose 2 hours alone time I get is the only time-off.
I'm sure I'm not buisier than you but you get to come home and relax because you are childless. I was a working mom and now I'm stay-at-home. I am not phisycly tired, but mentaly

Come home and relax?? This is exactly what I was talking about. You don't know what I do for a living. Just because I'm childless doesn't mean I come home and relax. Yes, I do have that option. But, I have goals and deadlines to meet. In order to meet those deadlines, I don't have time to relax when I come home. When I'm sleeping, I'm dreaming about designs and marketing ideas (ocassionally a man, but that is becoming rare).

I'm not saying you are not busy. KB was right, every job is tough in its own right. There are plenty of "mothers" out there that are not great and could careless about their duties. If you want to do well, you will bust your ass and strive to do well, whether it is motherhood or starting your own business.

 

[Deterass]

I would think it would be less stressful than most jobs.

 

[foreigngirl]

Come home and relax?? This is exactly what I was talking about. You don't know what I do for a living. Just because I'm childless doesn't mean I come home and relax. Yes, I do have that option. But, I have goals and deadlines to meet. In order to meet those deadlines, I don't have time to relax when I come home. When I'm sleeping, I'm dreaming about designs and marketing ideas (ocassionally a man, but that is becoming rare).

I'm not saying you are not busy. KB was right, every job is tough in its own right. There are plenty of "mothers" out there that are not great and could careless about their duties. If you want to do well, you will bust your ass and strive to do well, whether it is motherhood or starting your own business.

you are right. I dont say women that work hard and dont have kids are all about the relaxing. Just as you said - you do have that option, at least.
And, yes, there is lazy stay-at-home moms that dont giv a shit about anything. I've seen a lot of those and they make me sick

 

[Deterass]

My day starts at 7 am and dont end untill they go to sleep. THose 2 hours alone time I get is the only time-off.

I'm sure I'm not buisier than you but you get to come home and relax because you are childless. I was a working mom and now I'm stay-at-home. I am not phisycly tired, but mentaly

For someone who has such a demanding job you seem to have a lot of free time to visit EF.

 

[foreigngirl]

For someone who has such a demanding job you seem to have a lot of free time to visit EF.

I am not complaining. I was asking how the rest are viewing it.

 

[Whiskey]

I don't have any kids, but here is my thought.

I have seen two types of stay at home mothers. Mother #1 was lazy as all hell and never really cleaned up or did anything with the kids but make shure they didn't get hurt.

Mother #2 was always cleaning, working with her kids, "like school work, speech, and body mechanics" and actually did some work at home. Small repairs and such.

I consider mother#2's role as a stay at home mom a real job. THat is a lot of work to clean, teach, repair, do yard work and anything else that she can do during the day.

I realize that when school is in session her job is easier. But she still has to get up, fix the kids breakfast/lunch for school, take the kids to school and so on.

I would like to be a stay at home father... granted my wife made bank like no other.

Whiskey

 

[puddlemonkey]

If she is actually raising kids and keeping the house clean, yeah, it can certainly be a lot of work. However, most that I know don't spend enough time with the kid(s) and their place is a mess. But what do I care, they aren't my kids (at least I don't think so), its not my place, and I'm just there for the sex. Women are dirty guys, don't trust them.

 

[Deterass]

 

[stosstruppe]

Must be the easiest job on the planet. If my wife offered to be the sole bread winner & I got to stay at home all day with the kids surfing the 'net, playing World of Warcraft once all the house work's done, watching TV, eating whenever I want I'd be like "Hell yea!".

 

[mrdeeznuts]

I don't have any kids, but here is my thought.

I have seen two types of stay at home mothers. Mother #1 was lazy as all hell and never really cleaned up or did anything with the kids but make shure they didn't get hurt.

Mother #2 was always cleaning, working with her kids, "like school work, speech, and body mechanics" and actually did some work at home. Small repairs and such.

I consider mother#2's role as a stay at home mom a real job. THat is a lot of work to clean, teach, repair, do yard work and anything else that she can do during the day.

I realize that when school is in session her job is easier. But she still has to get up, fix the kids breakfast/lunch for school, take the kids to school and so on.

I would like to be a stay at home father... granted my wife made bank like no other.

Whiskey

i'm with whiskey, but don't forget the working dad isn't easy either. getting up early 5 am to go to work working till 5 or 6 if not later, having to travel away from his kids, missing his kids first days, games, etc. to provide food and clothing and a nice house. a working dad misses a lot but is always busting his ass to be there and make sure his wife can stay at home and raise their kids and take care of things. not to mention trying to fit in home repairs and yard work, and trying to get a little time for things he likes to do.

 

[foreigngirl]

i'm with whiskey, but don't forget the working dad isn't easy either. getting up early 5 am to go to work working till 5 or 6 if not later, having to travel away from his kids, missing his kids first days, games, etc. to provide food and clothing and a nice house. a working dad misses a lot but is always busting his ass to be there and make sure his wife can stay at home and raise their kids and take care of things. not to mention trying to fit in home repairs and yard work, and trying to get a little time for things he likes to do.

Yeap. I agree. I feel bad that my husband has only 2 hours of the day to spend with the kids and every time he leaves for work he has that sad expression cause he is leaving them and me.

PuddleMonkey
If she is actually raising kids and keeping the house clean, yeah, it can certainly be a lot of work. However, most that I know don't spend enough time with the kid(s) and their place is a mess. But what do I care, they aren't my kids (at least I don't think so), its not my place, and I'm just there for the sex. Women are dirty guys, don't trust them.

I agree with this too. Some moms are nasty. A friend of mine took me to her brothers house (ha was at work). I walk in and 1. it smells nasty, not like after smell from cooking 2. dog hair everywhere 3. messy and dirty 4. kids had dry food stains all over their faces (cant you wash them after they eat?) and her 200 + lbs ass is sitting on the couch like she did everything that needs to be done in that house.
I'm a stay-at-home mom butt that made me puke. I had to get out of there in 10 min

 

[chewyxrage]

Fuck I'd love to be a stay @ home dad in the future ala gonelifting. Let her goto work. I'll chill @ home w/ the kids and play w/ the stock market all day

 

[wutangnomo]

Stay at home mom/dad is not a job, it's a responsibility. A responsibility one must take for spreading their legs and getting knocked up (or getting someone else knocked up).

In my experience here is what I learned with stay at home mom's (I speak of mom's in this case because I have experienced a lot of them...don't ask).

Most these people who complain that it's such a hard "job" have poor time management skills. Guess what, if you did NOT have any kids, you'd still have to do laundry, cook, clean, and run all sorts of other errands. Every job is unique and demanding in its own right, so it's ridiculous to compare apples to oranges.

It depends on the amount of children one has. Some women complain how difficult being a mom is yet they only have one or two children. Talk about pathetic. If you are struggling with one or two children then your time management truly is shit and you need to reassess parenthood altogether.

During the first years a child sleeps quite a bit, so that leaves time for oneself. Around age three to four a child begins school, which means many many FREE hours all by oneself during the day as the child(ren) is off being educated. If you're parenting properly, your child should be in bed by 8pm or so. So from 8pm until bedtime you have all to yourself as your child snoozes. Not to mention when the husband/partner comes home you can have more free time for yourself. So how is it that there is so much complaining about no time? Every job is demanding! Poor time management.

You don't want to know the amount of stay at home mom's who watch tv all day (guess who daytime soaps target) or chat on the internet all day. I'll say this much, the amount of stay at home mom's that end up cheating is pretty disgusting to say the least. Half these women don't have any free time for themselves because they're boinking some dude they met on the net.

 

[The_Ghost]

Yes it is. I think every father should switch places with a stay at home mom so they can appreciate who much she really does.

 

[Dial_tone]

I think it is. My ex wanted to be a stay at home gf but didn't want kids.

 

[mrdeeznuts]

I think it is. My ex wanted to be a stay at home gf but didn't want kids.

and wanted you to hire a maid service huh

 

[nycgirl]

you are right. I dont say women that work hard and dont have kids are all about the relaxing. Just as you said - you do have that option, at least. And, yes, there is lazy stay-at-home moms that dont giv a shit about anything. I've seen a lot of those and they make me sick

If I did not have other responsibilities, then I could rest. When you choose to have kids, that is your responsibility. I chose to do something else. People that don't have kids but have other responsibilities (work, school, businesses) complain about the same issues. Its all about time management.

Have you tried developing a schedule?

 

[rudeboyja]

I don't agree with the whole stay at home mom thing. TI think kids should be around other kids and get some independence. Most stay at home mom's hand off the kids to the husband when he gets home from work. Granted, she's tired, but isn't he. Plus, how many of these stay at home mom's do you see trying anything and everything to keep themselves entertained once the kids are in school. Best solution is for the caregiver to work 20-30 hours a week and have the kids in day care 5 or 6 hours a day.

 

[morph60]

just to mix it up a bit.I am a father of two,8 and 5. Repair large steel forming machinery bye day and train as hard as I can.That being said.
My wife left town for 5 weeks(job stuff) I no longer think her job was so bad.Every thing is going so smooth.Week 4 is just ending things are fine.I am actuly just tired of driven them around.///house clean/homework done/teeth brushed/in bed at 9:00

thank god there not infants.then it is a full time job

 

[foreigngirl]

If I did not have other responsibilities, then I could rest. When you choose to have kids, that is your responsibility. I chose to do something else. People that don't have kids but have other responsibilities (work, school, businesses) complain about the same issues. Its all about time management.

Have you tried developing a schedule?

oh, dont get me wrong, I was not saying its hard. I have no problem managing the kids, th ehusband and the house. Day time is a bit hectic, but I try putting the kids down in bed between 8-9pm sometimes 7:30pm. It works out good for me. Its just all that screeming that makes my head explode

rudeboyja

I don't agree with the whole stay at home mom thing. TI think kids should be around other kids and get some independence. Most stay at home mom's hand off the kids to the husband when he gets home from work. Granted, she's tired, but isn't he. Plus, how many of these stay at home mom's do you see trying anything and everything to keep themselves entertained once the kids are in school. Best solution is for the caregiver to work 20-30 hours a week and have the kids in day care 5 or 6 hours a day.

I dont ever hand over the kids to my husband. I take full responsibility for them and himself

 

[morph60]

Its just all that screeming that makes my head explode

I just ref the fights myself

 

[StickFigure]

YES. it is different than the typical "job", but it is still EXTREMELY difficult. no matter how much money my father made or how hard he worked, I would have NEVER turned out like this if it wasn't for my mother.

Totally agree with KB on this one!

 

[mhebert4224]

To be a stay at home mom you must cook and clean my wife does neither so she works. My 2 censt

 

[foreigngirl]

just to mix it up a bit.I am a father of two,8 and 5. Repair large steel forming machinery bye day and train as hard as I can.That being said.
My wife left town for 5 weeks(job stuff) I no longer think her job was so bad.Every thing is going so smooth.Week 4 is just ending things are fine.I am actuly just tired of driven them around.///house clean/homework done/teeth brushed/in bed at 9:00

thank god there not infants.then it is a full time job

mine are 3 years and 7 months....a lot of screeming and demands But its ok.

 

[jaded]

For someone who has such a demanding job you seem to have a lot of free time to visit EF.

 

[coldblue1955]

yes i do.

 

[Gambino]

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I was a stay at home dad for a while, was easy and I loved it.

When your efficient about cleaning and errands it doesnt take you eight fucking hours to get three things done and then use it as an excuse why your too fucking tired to still be a spouse.

Housewives genereally disgust me and for the most part are really fucking lazy.

lmao i knew you were gonna have a negative post in this thread loolol

considering that the kid starts going to school at around 5-6 yrs old, the full time aspect of it pretty much ends...then part time. watching soaps all day and sitting around in those nighty shirt things, sounds real difficult

 

[Gambino]

My day starts at 7 am and dont end untill they go to sleep. THose 2 hours alone time I get is the only time-off.

I'm sure I'm not buisier than you but you get to come home and relax because you are childless. I was a working mom and now I'm stay-at-home. I am not phisycly tired, but mentaly

unless you are gonna home school then you can retire in about 5-6 yrs and go on permanent part time status. sounds like a decent deal to me

 

[Mavafanculo]

My day starts at 7 am and dont end untill they go to sleep. THose 2 hours alone time I get is the only time-off.

I'm sure I'm not buisier than you but you get to come home and relax because you are childless. I was a working mom and now I'm stay-at-home. I am not phisycly tired, but mentaly

apparently.

and what the hell happened to ur hot avatars?

 

[foreigngirl]

apparently.

and what the hell happened to ur hot avatars?

The Red Wings are more important right now than hot avis. They bring me extra K

 

[Sean Scott]

Yes

 

[digimon7068]

Absolutely! It's the most important job in our house. All I do is make money to pay the bills. My wife's responsible for turning our children into citizens. If more people did this, the world would be a much better place!!

 

[bluepeter]

Yes.

 

[Bikini Mod]

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I was a stay at home dad for a while, was easy and I loved it.

When your efficient about cleaning and errands it doesnt take you eight fucking hours to get three things done and then use it as an excuse why your too fucking tired to still be a spouse.

Housewives genereally disgust me and for the most part are really fucking lazy.

Ummmm how many of the children did you carry to term, give birth to and nurse? My last pregnancy was also the most difficult. I was projectile vomitting daily till 21 weeks and by the beginning of the last trimester (when proper nutrition is most important) I was literally starving because my GI troubles kicked in again. My exhusband NEVER left for work late or came home early to help me with the kids even though I only asked him this favor - TWICE. Both times his answer was, "Love to stay and help you hun, but the customers need me. Gotta go."

Sort of fucking zaps your strength doing it that way..... dontcha think?

Hmmmmmmmm I had 4 kids in 5 years, nursed all of them as long as could and only had 2 in diapers for short periods. All of them were out of the crib and off the bottle by age 1 and all were out of diapers by 20 months. I ran the office for our electrical contracting company. Cooked, sewed, made halloween costumes and cookies from scratch. Only had a cleaning lady every other week when I was 7 months pregnant with my fourth and DEMANDED it. Took care of all the social obligations, busted my ass to get back to prepregnancy size before I got pregnant again and still fucked my exhusband silly 6 out of 7 nights per week (that is, when HE wasn't "too tired").

NONE of my children ever attended any sort of preschool and my oldest was 5 1/2 years old when I first left her and her sisters with a paid sitter.

Yea... it was a fucking cakewalk. LOL

 

[Smurfy]

Well. I dotn know.. I have 4 kids at home.. I was a stay at home dad with two..

it just wasnt that hard. I think a lot of women use it as an excuse because they think a few hours of effort every day equals wokring your ass of at some shit job. It doesnt.

Id give up work to go back to being a housedad ANY day of the week. Hell stay home, hang out with my kids and clean the house for an hour a day .. ANY DAY over coming to work. ANY DAY.

Id be a housewife any day. Fucking A, where's the damn apron.

 

[Cutiebaby]

Wow i so thought the votes would be reversed

 

[thelion2005]

Just wondering what your views on that are.

I know that I get tired like mentally. Hardly wait to ship the kids off to bed so I can have some quite time by myself. But I have to admit that it was way harder when I worked AND took care of the kid and husband and the house.

Toughest job there is.
Most responsible.
Most rewarding.

 

[Cutiebaby]

I find it humorous when a man says "It is easy as shit,I would love to do it".
Yet you leave them home with the kids for like 1 hr and when you get home they say "thank god you are home,Ok kids mommas home go play with her now."

 

[musclemom]

Just wondering what your views on that are.

I know that I get tired like mentally. Hardly wait to ship the kids off to bed so I can have some quite time by myself. But I have to admit that it was way harder when I worked AND took care of the kid and husband and the house.

I found being a stay at home more mentally demanding than any outside job. It's mentally exhausting and, frankly, for the most part, unappreciated and almost certainly unrewarded. To do both outside work and be a mother to young children uh uh.

You go to work you get paid ... some companies you do an exceptional job, you get a bonus, you get recognition. What do you get as a stay at home mom? The reward is intangible and frequently overlooked.

You potty train your kid, hey you're happy, the rest of the world is like, WELL, OF COURSE, that's what you're SUPPOSED to do!

 

[Dry Muscle]

So we stay at home moms could use a lesson from all you smart time management no children individuals? Ok.

As the single mother of two, who has a career, just coming off maternity leave, I can surely tell you that devoting your time to the caring and raising of children is, without doubt, the hardest job, the biggest responsilbity, and yes the most rewarding. It's the most fatiguing, the most bittersweet, most especially when one has to fill the role of two parents.

What I considered to be a cakewalk was when I had a job and no children. Even when I worked 12 hour days standing on my feet all day, I could still come home and fall asleep in my clothes if I wanted. I didn't have little ones depending on me for every meal, every snack, every diaper change, every clean article of clothing, every activity to attend, every page of homework to complete, every bath to get through, every tear to dry, every medical appointment to attend, every visit to emerg, every sickness to nurse, every game to play, every toy to wash, every bottle to sterilize, every baby food to prepare.

The fact that I do/did this and more, in addition to working and making very nice bank, and keeping a home is quite the accomplishment as far as I'm concerned. The level of tidiness in my home is far from what it was before I had my second, and again before I had my first, and that fact is not due to my time management skills, nor due to my lack of motivation or laziness. It's simply due to the fact that there aren't enough hours in the day, which doesn't include the five minutes here and there and we moms choose to take to get the fuck off our feet to either feed the baby or perhaps allow ourselves a bite of food, for I'm sure all the working world no children time management experts are taking the full benefit of their lunch hour and two coffee breaks.

Yes, childrearing is neverending, because as my experience as a Mother, I have found there is an emotional bank where the withdrawals never stop, and that can be pretty taxing in itself.

Those of you who do not have children are not in a position to comment, because you are not in a position to know. Those of you who state that you've done it and it's a piece of cake, calling other housewives or stay-at-home moms "lazy and disgusting" need a reality check. Most devoted parents who have been through the child-rearing cycle on planet Earth are nothing of the kind, and know the reverse is true.

 

[foreigngirl]

So we stay at home moms could use a lesson from all you smart time management no children individuals? Ok.

As the single mother of two, who has a career, just coming off maternity leave, I can surely tell you that devoting your time to the caring and raising of children is, without doubt, the hardest job, the biggest responsilbity, and yes the most rewarding. It's the most fatiguing, the most bittersweet, most especially when one has to fill the role of two parents.

What I considered to be a cakewalk was when I had a job and no children. Even when I worked 12 hour days standing on my feet all day, I could still come home and fall asleep in my clothes if I wanted. I didn't have little ones depending on me for every meal, every snack, every diaper change, every clean article of clothing, every activity to attend, every page of homework to complete, every bath to get through, every tear to dry, every medical appointment to attend, every visit to emerg, every sickness to nurse, every game to play, every toy to wash, every bottle to sterilize, every baby food to prepare.

The fact that I do/did this and more, in addition to working and making very nice bank, and keeping a home is quite the accomplishment as far as I'm concerned. The level of tidiness in my home is far from what it was before I had my second, and again before I had my first, and that fact is not due to my time management skills, nor due to my lack of motivation or laziness. It's simply due to the fact that there aren't enough hours in the day, which doesn't include the five minutes here and there and we moms choose to take to get the fuck off our feet to either feed the baby or perhaps allow ourselves a bite of food, for I'm sure all the working world no children time management experts are taking the full benefit of their lunch hour.

Yes, childrearing is neverending, because as my experience as a Mother, I have found there is an emotional bank where the withdrawals never stop, and that can be pretty taxing in itself.

Those of you who do not have children are not in a position to comment, because you are not in a position to know. Those of you who state that you've done it and it's a piece of cake, calling other housewives or stay-at-home moms "lazy and disgusting" need a reality check. Most devoted parents who have been through the child-rearing cycle on planet Earth are nothing of the kind, and know the reverse is true.

OMG, swetie, wonderfull job with this post. Add to that taking care of a husband, having his meals for work and his meals while he is at home done too, put on top of that putting everything in front of him.....doing this all while you are trying to feed that baby in the high chair that is screaming bloody Mary and running after that 4 yo toddler that is being stubborn and dont want to eat, begging her to put something in her stomack....

All this is that me and you talk about is ONLY for those mothers that actually care. I've seen the opposite

 

[needtogetaas]

it all deepands on what she dos well she is at home.

 

[jnuts]

I think the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Your viewpoint depends on what side of the fence you've been sitting.

 

[Spartacus]

nope,not even close
I was washing me bronco out behind work the other day
when a gal I dated pulled up in her SUV withher 2 kids
blah,blah
she was bored and had way too much time

 

[foreigngirl]

I found being a stay at home more mentally demanding than any outside job. It's mentally exhausting and, frankly, for the most part, unappreciated and almost certainly unrewarded. To do both outside work and be a mother to young children uh uh.

You go to work you get paid ... some companies you do an exceptional job, you get a bonus, you get recognition. What do you get as a stay at home mom? The reward is intangible and frequently overlooked.

You potty train your kid, hey you're happy, the rest of the world is like, WELL, OF COURSE, that's what you're SUPPOSED to do!

its very stresfull. At least when I was childless and working long hours, I knew that when I come home I will get a real rest. The days off that I had - real rest. Now, there is no sleeping, no resting, you sit down to eat and you get up like 10 times because there is always something that the kids need. You lose your appetite like that too.

And then, someone is gonna tell you - well, thats your job!!! I feel like killing that person. I, even as a woman, always had that competitevness going on and wanted to do more with my life - not just sitting at home watching kids and taking care of a husband. But, oh, well, thats how life is and what it served me

 

[Spartacus]

or he didn't

 

[foreigngirl]

nope,not even close
I was washing me bronco out behind work the other day
when a gal I dated pulled up in her SUV withher 2 kids
blah,blah
she was bored and had way too much time

thats one of the mothers that I was talking about - the ones that dont pay that much attention to teh needs of their kids and put themselfs as #1. THose are not women that have it hard while being stay-at-home moms

 

[Dry Muscle]

Yes, there are parents who don't care, but when FG started this thread, I'm sure she was referring to the devoted moms, otherwise I think the title of this thread would have been "Do you guys think that stay-at-home moms who don't give a rat's ass have a full-time job?"

 

[victoria978]

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I was a stay at home dad for a while, was easy and I loved it.

When your efficient about cleaning and errands it doesnt take you eight fucking hours to get three things done and then use it as an excuse why your too fucking tired to still be a spouse.

Housewives genereally disgust me and for the most part are really fucking lazy.

Wow!! You're angry. Maybe you talk to some one about that....like a shrink. You need to be hugged more. here ya go! Now LIGHTEN UP!! ya big doody-head!

 

[Spartacus]

Ummmm how many of the children did you carry to term, give birth to and nurse? My last pregnancy was also the most difficult. I was projectile vomitting daily till 21 weeks and by the beginning of the last trimester (when proper nutrition is most important) I was literally starving because my GI troubles kicked in again. My exhusband NEVER left for work late or came home early to help me with the kids even though I only asked him this favor - TWICE. Both times his answer was, "Love to stay and help you hun, but the customers need me. Gotta go."

Sort of fucking zaps your strength doing it that way..... dontcha think?

Hmmmmmmmm I had 4 kids in 5 years, nursed all of them as long as could and only had 2 in diapers for short periods. All of them were out of the crib and off the bottle by age 1 and all were out of diapers by 20 months. I ran the office for our electrical contracting company. Cooked, sewed, made halloween costumes and cookies from scratch. Only had a cleaning lady every other week when I was 7 months pregnant with my fourth and DEMANDED it. Took care of all the social obligations, busted my ass to get back to prepregnancy size before I got pregnant again and still fucked my exhusband silly 6 out of 7 nights per week (that is, when HE wasn't "too tired").

NONE of my children ever attended any sort of preschool and my oldest was 5 1/2 years old when I first left her and her sisters with a paid sitter.

Yea... it was a fucking cakewalk. LOL

and you have quite publically mentioned that at least one of them is failing all of her courses
of course you attach blame to another besides yourself
if you are to be believed though,I fail to see any success
regardless

 

[covergrl80]

Those 10 people that voted NO are not stay at home Mom's i can asure you of that

 

[coldblue1955]

from me personally YES!

 

[Spartacus]

thats one of the mothers that I was talking about - the ones that dont pay that much attention to teh needs of their kids and put themselfs as #1. THose are not women that have it hard while being stay-at-home moms

you extrapolated too much from the story
she's a quite capable mom
I note details such as how the children are seated,their dress and their over all cleanliness
as well as how they talked to me
their command of the langauge given their age
she passed well on all accounts
she's half my age

 

[foreigngirl]

you extrapolated too much from the story
she's a quite capable mom
I note details such as how the children are seated,their dress and their over all cleanliness
as well as how they talked to me
their command of the langauge given their age
she passed well on all accounts
she's half my age

how old are the kids? Are they in school or younger? Plus, she is a single mom, I was talking more about moms with husbands to take care of on top of the kids

 

[Spartacus]

and if you think the "mother" needs to be there so often
than what premuim are you placing on the father's time involvement?
has he got to have a commensurate input with the mother in less time?

 

[Smurfy]

this could go on forever, blah blah blah. wtf.

 

[Dry Muscle]

how old are the kids? Are they in school or younger? Plus, she is a single mom, I was talking more about moms with husbands to take care of on top of the kids

If the husband is supportive and has a good idea of his role as a contributing father, then you have a strong family unit which still doesn't take away the fact that it's brutally hard for the person raising the kids. If the husband or wife is more like one of the kids, then single primary caregiving is probably easier and alot more accepted, sans the extra added bullshit and work.

 

[manny78]

Just wondering what your views on that are.

I know that I get tired like mentally. Hardly wait to ship the kids off to bed so I can have some quite time by myself. But I have to admit that it was way harder when I worked AND took care of the kid and husband and the house.

No it isnt. I've seen that twice on a CV and in both cases, I didnt even care to read the rest. I dont hire that kind of people.

 

[Spartacus]

my opinion is that males and females are equal

 

[Smurfy]

What about the Moms who have all the responsibility of a stay-at-home-mom (i.e. take care of the household, the kids, the husband cooking cleaning laundry) but who also work a full-time job?

 

[foreigngirl]

and if you think the "mother" needs to be there so often
than what premuim are you placing on the father's time involvement?
has he got to have a commensurate input with the mother in less time?

well, the real hard time (not too much physicly, but mentally) have the moms like me, that are stay-at-home not by choice - no babysitter, husband works long and odd hours, so we cant switch with the kids, if I get a job I will be paying 50% if not more of my paycheck for day-care. So, I have to stay at home, while my kids see their dad only 2 hours max of the day cause he has to leave for work.

So, in those hours that are from us getting up till me waking my husband up - I have to feed and change the kids (feeding can take even a whole hour), clean up, cook lunch (and I mean lunch, not sandwiches) for my husband for work, put the baby down for a nap, work with my older one with her writing in english, cook for my husband "breakfast" while probably feeding the baby that just woke up. I cant cook hos breakfast earlier, cause he wants it fresh.

There, all this in just 5 hours.

 

[Smurfy]

dont forget about time for posting on ef!!

 

[foreigngirl]

dont forget about time for posting on ef!!

lol..yeah, thats after they fall asleep. Dont forget that I am not really posting during day time. And to asnwer the other post you made - it is worst for the women that take care of everything + go to work. I've been there.

 

[foreigngirl]

No it isnt. I've seen that twice on a CV and in both cases, I didnt even care to read the rest. I dont hire that kind of people.

what is CV? And what kind of people you wouldnt hire? Moms?

 

[Smurfy]

Fuckin women's liberation. god damn bra-burning bitches ruined it for the rest of us June Cleaver wanna-bes.

 

[manny78]

what is CV? And what kind of people you wouldnt hire? Moms?

curriculum vitae = resume. I wouldnt hire people who stayed home and used their kids as an excuse. As far as I'm concerned, my parents worked both full time and we all grew happy at home.

 

[foreigngirl]

curriculum vitae = resume. I wouldnt hire people who stayed home and used their kids as an excuse. As far as I'm concerned, my parents worked both full time and we all grew happy at home.

Manny, I am talking about women that are stay-at-home not by choice. Trust me, I would do anything to be able to work again. I even tried to get an interview before my husband cleared my head that it is not possible for now, at least before both kids start school.

A lot of people are not using that as an excuse, but they had no other choice. On the other hand, there is lazy women that do and those are the ones fucking it all up

 

[manny78]

Manny, I am talking about women that are stay-at-home not by choice. Trust me, I would do anything to be able to work again. I even tried to get an interview before my husband cleared my head that it is not possible for now, at least before both kids start school.

A lot of people are not using that as an excuse, but they had no other choice. On the other hand, there is lazy women that do and those are the ones fucking it all up

No choice ? How ? Immigration laws ? because no one would hire you ? Because husband doesnt want you to ? Please explain. Sorry, i just had my 3rd drink...

 

[Bikini Mod]

and you have quite publically mentioned that at least one of them is failing all of her courses
of course you attach blame to another besides yourself
if you are to be believed though,I fail to see any success
regardless

When my children lived with me fulltime as their father was forced to give them back as he could not make them attend school - THEY ALL WERE STRAIGHT A - or A's and a few B's... even my baby who has a learning disability, that was diagnosed because of ME. Then a judge sua sponte gave them to him half-time, ALL the grades began slipping and discipline problems with my oldest began to escalate (forgive me for not posting all this up for your comments/approval ASSWIPE... ) then this same judge TOOK LEGAL AND PHYSICAL CUSTODY FROM ME IN OCT OF 05 BECAUSE A - their father made false allegations about my children being abused in the childcare of the gym where I would bust my ass working from 5AM till sometimes 9PM, though I hated taking clients after 3PM as my girls needed me to help w/homework etc - oh shit!!! A single mother busting her ass in an honorable profession of nationally certified personal trainer and even WITH the bullshit childsupport their father was forced to pay at the time - I WAS STILL ELIGIBLE FOR FOODSTAMPS - MOTHER FUCKER - YOU THINK THAT MAYBE THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS JUDGE'S CALCULATIONS?!?!... Hhhhhhhmmmm I worked too many hours and bingobango said judge TOOK CUSTODY - then ALL the children's grades continued to drop - my second in danger of failing every single one of her academic classes - my oldest deciding she was going to go wherever/whenever with whomever and NOT tell a parent... so motherfucker, I found her and whooped her ass... yup I posted up about it remember? Hmmmmm since then - no more serious discipline problem with my oldest but she is now officially C average at best.... From honor roll every semester residing with me.

Read my lips asshole - my children are with me only one day per week and every other weekend.

Since the change in custody - ALL of my children are failing or C average at best, behave like spoiled ANIMALS in their father's presence (Oh, didnt I tell you? At his apartment he has been warned if there is ONE MORE COMPLAINT about the disturbances at his place - THE FUCKING POLICE WILL BE CALLED.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm what else?

The very month that my children were taken from me, I was the top producer in THE COMPANY because I came to work above and beyond to keep from blowing my brains out in my apartment alone. I didnt drink or date or do drugs - I came to work and then stayed to work out myself.

Oh yea... I have since been stripped of the ability to viably support myself and my children because IF I work when I have my children, I stand to lose that time!

I can not function as a trainer because I can not work consistently enough to sign clients. So I can only take minimum wage jobs like waitressing/bartending. Am enrolled to begin nursing school in Sept but am TERRIFIED as in order to maintain my eligibility to receive financial aid I must attend school fulltime. I am hoping to increase my time to a true shared arrangement one week on/one week off... So now ASSHOLE when am I supposed to study/earn enough to support us (Oh, did I tell you? That I get ZERO childsupport even though I have my FOUR children nearly half the time? and I am unemployed?... I had to cut back my hours in order to regain custody of my kids - so my motherfucking company FIRED ME.) and go to school AND BE MOTHER...... WHEN?!?!!

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE

Dont you ever ever EVER fucking post up to me or about me again you MOTHER FUCKING ASSWIPE.

Go clusterfuck yourself cause baby - you aint NEVER gonna come within 10 feet of this.

Feel me motherfucker?

I am done with you asshole - hear me? fucking DONE. Go fuck yourself and the lameassed pisspoor excuses for females that would give you and your sorry ass the time of day.

I am going to bed now, my girls are waiting.

 

[foreigngirl]

No choice ? How ? Immigration laws ? because no one would hire you ? Because husband doesnt want you to ? Please explain. Sorry, i just had my 3rd drink...

no choice because my husband works from 7pm till 5:30 am. He drives 55 miles to work each day. He leaves at 4pm and comes home at 6:30-7 am. Wakes up at 3pm. Now, tell me, how am I gonan be able to go to work.

Before he started these hours, we were just fine with both of us working and taking care of our kids