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Do any of you competitive bber's ever use a little adderal in your pre-contest phase?

ifbb411 said:
The question doesn't pertain to clenbuterol??? Thanks anyway though...

the question didnt ask about clen, but in asking it you did let us know that you were using the clen in a very ineffective manner, so people are trying to help you correct that
 
needsize said:
the question didnt ask about clen, but in asking it you did let us know that you were using the clen in a very ineffective manner, so people are trying to help you correct that


If you think I'm using it in an incorrect manner, thats a matter of your own opinion, I've tried the 2 week on 2 week off thing, and it doesn't work as well for me...I must be doing something right, placed in top 3 at the junior nats hwt class at 25 years old. :rolleyes: now back to the adderal question, (which matters most)
 
adderall is some great stuff, but it is illegal for good reason. In the wrong hands it can really mess up the user just like speed or coke can.
 
ifbb411 said:
If you think I'm using it in an incorrect manner, thats a matter of your own opinion, I've tried the 2 week on 2 week off thing, and it doesn't work as well for me...I must be doing something right, placed in top 3 at the junior nats hwt class at 25 years old. :rolleyes: now back to the adderal question, (which matters most)

can you explain how clen is effective when taking it 2 days on, 2 days off, when it is still in your body the entire two days you arent taking it? I'm not a science major, but that doesnt make sense to me
And originally I did have an answer for your adderal question. I am a social worker, and work extensively with the drug
 
needsize said:
can you explain how clen is effective when taking it 2 days on, 2 days off, when it is still in your body the entire two days you arent taking it? I'm not a science major, but that doesnt make sense to me
And originally I did have an answer for your adderal question. I am a social worker, and work extensively with the drug

I am not a science expert, but the late Dan Duchaine, always lived by the motto "2 days on 2 days off"....He worked with the top guys in the world back then and was at the forefront of performance enhancement. My current nutrition./trainer, also tells me to take it this way...and he works with the top guys in the world...so go figure man...just telling you the facts, not the science behind it..
 
needsize said:
can you explain how clen is effective when taking it 2 days on, 2 days off, when it is still in your body the entire two days you arent taking it? I'm not a science major, but that doesnt make sense to me
And originally I did have an answer for your adderal question. I am a social worker, and work extensively with the drug

NEEDSIZE...correct me if Im wrong but isn't there a HUGE potential for abuse with adderall? Oftentimes, it is crushed and snorted by rec. drug users..delivery via this method makes it almost indistinguishable from Cocaine....its my opinion that when when AAS users start to cross over into the recreational drug world, it is this activity that helps in rocketing gear users to the top of the priority list with the law. Recreational drugs and A.S. just dont mix...its these drugs that cause the law to really sit up and take notice..and actively pursue the prosecution of gear users....I always get so pissed when I hear about a bro going down....and the cops end up siezing gear PLUS ecstasy, or speed, adderall, oxycontin etc...what a way to give some legitimacy to increasing Federal witch hunt against bodybuilders....in my humble opinion..do us all a favor and stick to gear...fuck all this recreational drug B.S....this is in no way directed towards you Needsize...its just since you do have some knowledge on rec. drug use cause of your job..I replied to your comment...PEACE
 
ifbb411 said:
I am not a science expert, but the late Dan Duchaine, always lived by the motto "2 days on 2 days off"....He worked with the top guys in the world back then and was at the forefront of performance enhancement. My current nutrition./trainer, also tells me to take it this way...and he works with the top guys in the world...so go figure man...just telling you the facts, not the science behind it..

I'm definitely not trying to be a dick here, but as much as duchaine was a guru back in the day, much of what he preached has been scientifically proven wrong in the past decade or so.
My point was that since it lasts in your body for several days, when you take 2 days off, there are still significant levels of it in your blood, so your body never gets a break from it. And there has been lots of evidence that shows that clens fat burning effects drop significantly at around the 2 week mark, so it would make sense to ride it heavy for the two weeks, then give your body a break. I've talked to several trainers myself, two of which also have pro cards(one a woman, the other a man), and they preach the 2 weeks on, 2 off method.
Anywho.....VeteranNewbie, youre right, there is a hige potential for abuse, but there is for so many other things as well. Generally guys that use it for bodybuilding purposes, dont tend to cross that line though, but the potential is always there. I find when starting a contest diet, its really hard to get a handle on the hunger, and ritalin, adderal, dexedrine, etc really help to control it
 
NEEDSIZE, no offense taken man...yeah Ducahine is VERY old school, BUT I've tried the 2 week on 2 week off thing countless times, and it just doesn't work for me man....after about 6 or 7 days of taking clen ED, I do not even feel it anymore, nor does it give me any thermogenic effect. With the 2 day on/2 day off, I for some reason ALWAYS feel it...I appreciate the help though, thanks man....
 
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