Diet Soda?

[alphaIII]

Mr. X,

You are obviously against Aspartame ingestion, as well as other artificial sweeteners. So my question is, do you buy unsweeted protein powders or those sweetened only with Stevia? Almost every flavored power uses AceK, Sucralose, or both (Aspartame is rarely used nowadays), aside from the few sweetened with Stevia.

From my experience, Stevia sweetened powders don't taste good at all, and unflavored taste like shit. And it seems for most people that get unsweetened powders, they mix is with some sort of diet beverage (like Crystal Light) that contains artificial sweeteners anyway.

So am I right that you're basically saying ALL artificial sweeteners, not just Aspartame, should be avoided?

 

[Mr.X]

I consume an average of 2 or 3 cans per week. I do not believe that it will have an apprecaible effect on my health. I do always keep an open mind on issues though. It just so-happens to be that the evidence I see points to aspartame being safe. Can I prove this? No, of course not. Any individual who has any concept of the Nature of Science (NOS) will be able to indenitfy that there is indeed no such concept as proof. There is merely evidence from various sources that get mounded against one another. Do we have to consider bias in research? Certainly. Have I considered it at this point? To an exten yes. And based on what I have seen presented from both sides of the coin, I would contend that aspartame is indeed fine for consumption. The negative effects it may possess are negligble in the short term and long run. Is it healthy? No, I have yet to read anything to suggest that aspartame will yeild some sort of health benefit. This in its own might be enough for people to avoid its useage. However, for the overwhelming majority of people, consider the alternative. A 355ml can of traditional soda contains typically 35-45 grams of sugar. Whats worse? A pinch of aspartame or 6 tbsp of sugar?

Just to get you on the same page. During the approval of aspartame as a diet product, the FDA ignored over 20 studies on rat fatalities and human injuries from the product.

95% of the studies are paid and funded by Coca Cola and Pepsi. Even other diet producers pitch in. It's very bias and very subjective.

Coca cola and pepsi sued over 74 private research companies and universities citing slander on their diet beverages due to studies released by those institutions about diet sodas.

There are studies and if you look hard enough you'll find them.

 

[psychedout]

Just to get you on the same page. During the approval of aspartame as a diet product, the FDA ignored over 20 studies on rat fatalities and human injuries from the product.

95% of the studies are paid and funded by Coca Cola and Pepsi. Even other diet producers pitch in. It's very bias and very subjective.

Coca cola and pepsi sued over 74 private research companies and universities citing slander on their diet beverages due to studies released by those institutions about diet sodas.

There are studies and if you look hard enough you'll find them.

Going to go look for them.

 

[psychedout]

Mr. X,

You are obviously against Aspartame ingestion, as well as other artificial sweeteners. So my question is, do you buy unsweeted protein powders or those sweetened only with Stevia? Almost every flavored power uses AceK, Sucralose, or both (Aspartame is rarely used nowadays), aside from the few sweetened with Stevia.

From my experience, Stevia sweetened powders don't taste good at all, and unflavored taste like shit. And it seems for most people that get unsweetened powders, they mix is with some sort of diet beverage (like Crystal Light) that contains artificial sweeteners anyway.

So am I right that you're basically saying ALL artificial sweeteners, not just Aspartame, should be avoided?

Any type of poly-chlorinated sugar (i.e. Sucralose) poses far greater risks than aspartame.

 

[Mr.X]

Mr. X,

You are obviously against Aspartame ingestion, as well as other artificial sweeteners. So my question is, do you buy unsweeted protein powders or those sweetened only with Stevia? Almost every flavored power uses AceK, Sucralose, or both (Aspartame is rarely used nowadays), aside from the few sweetened with Stevia.

So am I right that you're basically saying ALL artificial sweeteners, not just Aspartame, should be avoided?

I just eat real meals: chicken, beef, fish etc... I started getting away from protein powders recently, but the ones I have are unsweetened.

I avoid all artificial sweetners and suggest the same to all my clients.

 

[alphaIII]

Mr. X and pyschedout,

Thanks for the input. I'll look a little more into the studies, but for now I think I'll cut back on my artificial sweetener intake - limited to whats in my protein powders - I've gotta use up what I have.

 

[36drew]

Just to get you on the same page. During the approval of aspartame as a diet product, the FDA ignored over 20 studies on rat fatalities and human injuries from the product.

95% of the studies are paid and funded by Coca Cola and Pepsi. Even other diet producers pitch in. It's very bias and very subjective.

Coca cola and pepsi sued over 74 private research companies and universities citing slander on their diet beverages due to studies released by those institutions about diet sodas.

There are studies and if you look hard enough you'll find them.

Why would the FDA ignore studies?

 

[WoNderWoMan25]

I think consuming aspartame is just fine. Here is a piece of literature that is fairly newm 2003.[/B]

Maybe it's just me... but if I use it as a sugar substitute in unsweeted tea or coffee, it makes my tongue feel funny. Can't be a GOOD thing.

 

[fiction agent]

seems about right.

pot is bad. alcohol is good. Diet Soda is a good staple of any diet. there is nothing wrong with fast food. Red Bull really does give you magical energy.

really can't trust anything these days. lol.

 

[Mr.X]

Why would the FDA ignore studies?

because of the billions of dollars these companies stand to lose if the FDA didn't approve it, just to a search on the FDA and reality of how it works