Depression while on?

[powerlifter450]

I didn't think I was ever supposed to be depressed while on cycle?I'm on 400mg deca and 1 gram week sust.I'm running up on all the classic symptoms of depression.tired all the time,sleep too much,don't sleep enough.Lost interest in things I used to like.Bored alot.I feel like nothing matters anymore.everything is just a temp fix to permenant problems.

All this started when my girlfriend left me 6 weeks back.I thought I was over the worst of it but my mental state has changed for the worse.Depressed,Angry,Tired.Are steroids making this worse?I've never been in this situation before.Will this become worse when i step down to nolvadex and clomid therapy when i discontinue my current cycle?

I need some help here brothers.

Thanx

 

[Nathan]

Bro, I totally feel for you. I am a manic depresseive mess at the best of times. I'm getting help for it asap though - again. As to gear making it worse, I doubt it to be honest. For me, it's been a lifetime problem and gear actually helped a bit - the first time around anyway. This time I was depressed as hell while on and am no better now that I'm off. PM me if you have any questions or just want to talk.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Depression and fatique are often mixed up/confused while cycling. Being tired and sluggish all the time does make one seem depressed. Anxiety added on top of this makes it worse. Just try to get in the right mind set. Realize that you're not gonna feel like this forever, and you'll have the results of your cycle to be excited about in the future.

If you're depressed/torn-up over your girlfriend leaving now, just wait until you start clomid! Now that's gonna be a real bitch!

 

[Spyder550]

Alien is right, I was depressed too but when you hit the clomid its hell. But it all depends on how you handle it. Consider St Johns Wort an option, its an otc herb anti-depressant that works wonders, and has helped for me. As for what Nathan said, I disagree because the hormonal changes in your body are directly linked with your moods and depressive swings.

 

[Nathan]

Alien is right, I was depressed too but when you hit the clomid its hell. But it all depends on how you handle it. Consider St Johns Wort an option, its an otc herb anti-depressant that works wonders, and has helped for me. As for what Nathan said, I disagree because the hormonal changes in your body are directly linked with your moods and depressive swings.

I seriously don't think that gear has as deep an impact on mental status as some think. Like roid rage for example is bullshit if you ask me. Gear indirectly makes you feel very different, but for the most part, I would say, it makes one feel better mood-wise or else if it made everyone depressed as shit then who the fuck would touch the stuff? It sounds to me like changes in powerlifter's life are affecting him quite a bit. My moods never changed a bit on previous cycles, but this time I totaly crashed mentally and I have used all the gear in this cycle before and had no problems. I think it plays a small part - but that is not to say the hormones in general aren't the culprits.

 

[alien amp pharm]

I seriously don't think that gear has as deep an impact on mental status as some think. Like roid rage for example is bullshit if you ask me. Gear indirectly makes you feel very different, but for the most part, I would say, it makes one feel better mood-wise or else if it made everyone depressed as shit then who the fuck would touch the stuff? It sounds to me like changes in powerlifter's life are affecting him quite a bit. My moods never changed a bit on previous cycles, but this time I totaly crashed mentally and I have used all the gear in this cycle before and had no problems. I think it plays a small part - but that is not to say the hormones in general aren't the culprits.

This all has to do with the user and what is being used. I have bad aggression/temper naturally, so when I am juicing it makes it a little worse. Others claim they stay the same or even become less tempermental. As for roid rage, it happens to a certain extent. People just have to be mentally capable of dealing with it. Try halo and you'll see some roid rage. In conclusion, roids affect everyone differently. It may make some more relaxed, and some more agressive. May cause anxiety in some, calmness in others. But I also agree that some people will exaggerate/blame their moods on juice.

 

[Nathan]

This all has to do with the user and what is being used. I have bad aggression/temper naturally, so when I am juicing it makes it a little worse. Others claim they stay the same or even become less tempermental. As for roid rage, it happens to a certain extent. People just have to be mentally capable of dealing with it. Try halo and you'll see some roid rage. In conclusion, roids affect everyone differently. It may make some more relaxed, and some more agressive. May cause anxiety in some, calmness in others. But I also agree that some people will exaggerate/blame their moods on juice.

Okay, I agree then. For me, the gear I've tried hasn't impacted my moods too much, and I could be wrong, but I don't think it's the gear for powerlifdting either, mainly because of the breaking up with his gf.

 

[marky]

Ive been going thru a divorce the last few months and have had all kinds of anxiety, weepy moods...i noticed a distinct difference in my moods when I began Liquidex.

 

[HugeWannabe]

Ive been going thru a divorce the last few months and have had all kinds of anxiety, weepy moods...i noticed a distinct difference in my moods when I began Liquidex.

marky, better moods? less weepiness because of lower estrogen? I quit my cycle due to anxiety and was trying to get my gf back and lost it again because of clomid, I am done with everything except for var primo and winny and no clomid again for me. I am on femara 2.5 mg ED right now hopefully I will feel better soon!

 

[alien amp pharm]

No importance, but just related: I started clomid. I didn't get all sentimental and crying like some people do, but I did start thinking about my ex-fiance. I hate that bitch and haven't spoken to her in about a year. Well I started all the sudden, due to clomid, missing her, and my bad luck she talks to me (via instant messenger) the other day! It sounded like she wants me again. WTF? Now I'm all tore up again! I hate clomid!

Marky, sorry to hear about your divorce bro.

 

[BBBodie]

Emotions are exacerbated by hormones. Note the classic PMS syndrome women suffer, and you'll understand a bit better.

As to us guys, load us up with Test, remember the body is trying like hell to balance test and est, so you do have more est than normal unless you're on Liquidex or Proviron which totally shut it down/out.

One of the caveats to a good cycle is a positive frame of mind. If you're going through shit like a break up, divorce, etc. it will impact even a clean builder let alone one doing AAS. So, with that in mind, anyone that has come to me for advice that has crap going on in their life, I just tell them now's not the time, look at your life, get it in order so you can party on your workouts, rest and eating, otherwise, it will all be too much.

As to too much sleep, or just being tired, I notice this too initially on cycle, with a couple weeks under my belt, my recovery is up (I think since Sust is involved for me, that's the "kick in" where I get the most from it) and my strength is up.

As to anger and all that, for me it's hogwash. I do notice I am more sensitive, but not out of control. So I just file it under, what an ass and move on.

Bodie

 

[Kool Keith]

Didn't you used to be homeless, powerlifter?

 

[marky]

The key I believe here is the estrogen testosterone balance/ratio. For whatever reasons I was having recurrent
anxiety and emotional mood swings, and unfortunately it contributed to the divorce scenario. I didnt want to go thru the clomid ride so I opted for a long taper off test. During this time I believe the estrogen levels were steadily rising. 4 months after starting i began hcg. Within a week was bad off. Went to the doc and got a perscription for 2 drugs to find the correct balance. I did find that but not until I got my Liquidex and then within 5 days I was feeling great. I think I answered my own need. Something to think about for all those bros who suffer from anxiety and mood swings during or post cycle. Im feeling great now and fk* the bitch for what she put me thu!

 

[powerlifter450]

Yes I was homeless once.Even then when I was in the streets I was stronger emotionally then I am now.I work hard every day not to go back there again ever. I'm going to try and start taking alot more nolvadex to see if i can beat down my estrogen levels.I feel that as others have said this is whats creating alot of the negativitiy.

At least once i day I still feel her with me or half expect to see her at my job.I'm avoiding her.I've been spending time with many other women but non are any good relationship wise.She sees me with them.I don't know what she thinks.She's been talking alot of shit about me to ppl in the club that we both like to goto and crap to my roommate/best friend.She went hysterical one night and said she was gonna get me fired from work and more.

She fears and hates me witha passion and I don't know what i did to inspire this type of behavior in her.That makes my anger and depression worse sometimes.

What should i do about her?Thanx

 

[BBBodie]

Wow Power....I thought I was the only one.

I have the same story, we broke up in August 2 years ago and even to this day, she now still talks shit about me to others and gives me an unnecessarily wide berth....but for literally the first year we were apart she'd see me in public and within a week or two she'd still come knocking at the door for service....LOL....so it was sweet in some ways....at the end of the first year she made attempts at getting back together, but it was only for her ego...that's when I realized what the gal thing was all about...she wanted the power of saying she could get me back every time (*remember women are tripping on self-esteem more than men....our self worth is in our wallet to them, theirs is in their looks)....

well to be honest, my just dessert (I know what a guy) is my fitness model girlfriend....took her to the club only once and it put her right in her place.....the ex that is....havent heard a peep from her since. the fitness gal has the waist she always wanted, and the balanced physique as well (whereas she was a lifter, power lifter initially) and her body will never be balanced....so it drives her nuts to see gals like this, let alone with me.

So the lesson in all this, gals trip on their self-worth....whether you or she broke up, she sees her value in who shes able to attract....if you're out with others...it's something that drives a stake in her heart....I still think about "what if" with the ex...but not for long....she showed her paranoid and psycho side...and that was enough to say "just say no".....

Give it time bro...you'll be ok, find a nice gal that wants to train with you *(like my fitness gal...she's on this board too now) and life will be sweeter.

Hope this helps...you're not alone....hang in there big guy.

Bodie

 

[G ChildlihC G]

Wow, wasn't depressed before I went through this thread...

 

[Polfa/Jelfa]

Powerlifter... to be honest with you im aften times depresive liek you..etc..and IMO in no doubt it is Severly agrivated by juice at times... the problem is the act thogh..the juic ejust makes your emotions good or bad tend to be mor estrong IMO...if you know wha ti mean..also you are more nervous..so you tend to overreact..etc.....Best of wishes to you broptha... jsu tkeep strong ..and come out on top bro its gona be ok

 

[powerlifter450]

I feel like I'm in that song by the Dirty Vegas called "Days go by".New Techno song. I've ordered up more nolvadex and increased the dose.Up to about 80mg a day.I'm gonna finish this cycle and not juice again for a long time.

My Depression is getting alot better.I feel great again now.High test and low est.Despite what people say or think aromatization eats up your mind too.I saw her for the first time in a month on Sunday.We avoided each other like the plague.We both saw each other but didn't make eye contact.I still don't want to be harsh to her but 2 words spring to mind.Lane Bryant.I wonder if her thyroid popped cause shes jumped to a 14/16 and appears to be on the way up from there.

I don't ask about her anymore but she still asks about me.Shes asked a good number of people if they'd seen me lately.She went out of her way to ask one of my friends.Doesn't make much sence.

Hindsight being so much clearer then foresight many people in the know beleive her to have a split personality disorder.If only i'd known beforehand.Too bad she had to be so beautiful.At least I didn't have to see her with anyone else Sunday.In my own spiteful way i hope she gets so fat that noone wants her now.harsh ya,but hey she put me through it.

I digress somewhat but her friends and relatives were with her Sunday night and they came over twice to talk to me.It was ackward.Are they spying on me for her?Where am i working now?Am i still powerlifting?Nice shirt where'd you buy that?Who you seeing now etc.Is this dig for dirt time?