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redguru said:Denver is 6-1 in AFC Championship games, 4-0 in Denver. Denver has not lost at Invesco Field in the last 12 games, longest streak currently in the NFL. You might want to watch your shit talking, you may be tasting it after Sunday.
ass_face said:Hey that's why they play the game. One thing is for sure... There is no way Denver could have went to Indy and Won. They get PWNED every time they visit Indy. The Steelers really don't give a shit about road games. They set a record this year with 13 straight road victories (going back to last year).
ass_face said:Blah blah blah... Shit talk is what makes watching the NFL fun to watch. I am confident that the Steelers will take care of business... apparently you Denver guys are a bit sensitive. Let's be honest... Jake Plummer? LMAO! ... enough said.
You are sittine there talking about games played in the 80's and 90's with John Elway at the helm... what the fuck does that have to do with tomorrow's game? Unlike most of the morons who analyze sports, I look at one on one match ups on the field.
12 games is a long streak... and it is due to end tommorrow.... streaks don't last forever...
diesel gli said:i'm all about shit talking, but try and come with some facts, not just talk...
diesel gli said:you stated some facts that meant nothing in the context of the argument...
Denver won all those games that you posted up about... i'm not sure what you were trying to convey...? that Denver can win despite Plummer not having a great game...?
Big Ben threw an INT every 30 attempts this year...
Plummer threw an INT every 65 attempts this year...
Denver's top 2 rushers had nearly 2000 yards...
Pitt's top 2 rusher had nearly 1600 yards...
Big Ben threw for 2400 yards and 17 TD's...
Plummer threw for 3400 yards and 18 TD's...
you seem to forget that your defense gave up 21 points to Joey fucking Harrington, and were able to play the Cincy game without Palmer at the helm...
You played a flat, ugly looking Colts team, that still could have won the game if not for their "idiot kicker"...
i know you're a fan and all, but to think that you will walk away with a double digit win is ludicrous...
this game is going to be won by a margin of 5 or less...
like i said, Plummer is NOT Manning, which is good and bad... good for us cause he throws off the run like noone else in the NFL...
diesel gli said:one last thing though... not let him do much anymore...? if that is the case, what the fuck does Cohwer let BB do...? NOTHING...?
ass_face said:Lol... Jake will be Jake on Sunday... Let me kick a little knowledge for ya:
Jake Plummer and the Broncos vs top 10 rushing defenses:
vs New England
15/26 1 TD 1 INT
2 sacks allowed
4/14 3rd downs
vs San Diego
23/37 0 TD 1 INT
3 sacks allowed
6/16 3rd downs
@ San Diego
8/14 0 TD 0 INT
2 sacks
3/14 3rd downs
@ Kansas City
18/29 1 TD 2 INT
2 sacks
3/10
vs Kansas City
13/18 1 TD 0 INT
1 sack
2/8
vs Baltimore
19/33 1 TD 0 INT
2 sacks
8/16 3rd downs
vs New England
17/24 2 TD 0 INT
1 sack
3/11
Thats in general.
113/181 6 TD 4 INT 13 sacks for Jake
29/89 (32.6% 3rd downs). That 32.6% would put them at 30th in the league - ahead of SF and Chicago.
Now, vs just the 3-4s
vs New England
17/24 2 TD 0 INT
1 sack
3/11
34 rushes, 176 yards
@ San Diego
8/14 0 TD 0 INT
2 sacks
3/14 3rd downs
26 rushes, 98 yards
vs New England
15/26 1 TD 1 INT
2 sacks
4/14 3rd downs
32 rushes 96 yards
vs San Diego
23/37 0 TD 1 INT
3 sacks
6/16 3rd downs
40 carries 157 yards
@ Dallas
15/24 1 TD 1 INT
2 sacks
3/10 3rd downs
20 carries 144 yards (but this includes a 55 yarder in overtime)
Totals:
19/65 29.2% 3rd downs (would be 31st in the league; 7% below their overall average of 36%)
78/125 (62.4%) 4 TD 3 INT 10 sacks
152 carries, 671 yards (4.4 ypc).
However, the 3-4 defenses that ALSO have a top 10 rush D (San Diego, New England), the Broncos have:
132 carries, 527 yards (4.0 ypc)
San Diego, who's run defense is most similar to The Steelers (#1 in the league), have held the Broncos to 67 rushes for 255 yards (3.8 yards per carry).
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Those are the most important stats in this game. Pittsburgh will score on Denvers D. That will not be an issue... but the game will come down to Denver vs. Pittsburgh's D. It doesn't look good.
My prediction:
Steelers 31
Broncos 17