controversial r-ala post (edit)

[TxLonghorn]

I read that today @ his little board. Interesting to say the least. He had a big fallout today @ ology it sounnds like. I think he was flaming Ulter and Macro.

That was exactly it. We don't allow flaming in the anabolic section, and he continued to flame even after all parties agreed not to. He continued and was called on it. I am thankful that the other parties involved stopped (I have to add that they only started flaming in self defense).

He seemed upset.

 

[TxLonghorn]

I haven't seen anyone come up with a valid rebuttal yet

There are some serious answers that have yet to be answered. I don't know if they even can be answered at this time. I am waiting for macro to post about his upcoming meeting with Dr. Packer. Maybe that will clear up some of these questions.

 

[bran987]

Honestly, the products from AF really dont do that much--ive ordered two seperate times from them and both times i have been pretty disappointed. One product that seems to work pretty good with me from the AF store is Yohimburn DF--ive tried their R-ALA, thermorexin and other types but i never saw the results that i was hearing from the boards..the only product i will probably continue to buy from them is the Yohimburn DF..dont wanna be a jerk but that stuff is way too expensive for the results

well, I have lost 3-4 lbs. in the past 2 weeks and 1/2 inch off my waist.. which I'm happy about, basically I started my diet when my Thermorexin and Glucorell-R arrived in the mail.

But therein lies the problem. My diet has been squeaky clean the past 2 weeks except for Super Bowl Sunday, so has it been my lifting, cardio, and eating been taking the lbs. off? One thing's for sure, I'm not gonna stop taking the stuff now just for research purposes.

I want to believe in products really bad, but who knows? I'm always weary when I hear people talking about noticing a huge difference in days..

I'd love to hear macro and ulter respond to this research.. who cares whether Animal posted it or not. I was just 'bout to order a bottle for my mom.

I also had a question about Trex and Lrex. One is stimulatory and the other is not, but they are both fat burners. So if you can handle the stimulatory one (Trex), why buy both?? I can't find an answer.

But I am a newbie here, and so I will stay where I belong.. listening and learning without making judgments... I am in awe of the knowledge here.

 

[OMEGA]

That was exactly it. We don't allow flaming in the anabolic section, and he continued to flame even after all parties agreed not to. He continued and was called on it. I am thankful that the other parties involved stopped (I have to add that they only started flaming in self defense).

He seemed upset.

On a Side Note Tex your an Awsome Admin, and your site is great as well........

 

[Ulter]

I agree with the findings of the study. It's not news however we already read it 2 years ago.
OXANDRIN your thread title says very little about you're ability to read and understand what it is you posted.

"It does NOT work in healthy muscle!"

This quote is just as misleading as the crap Animal posted on .


Here's another news flash. If you're already lean and insulin sensitive you don't need to use any fat loss supplement whatsoever. Because you're already there Einstein. It's like saying a study proved that people with 20-20 vision don't need glasses. Duh!

However if you are like 2/3 of the American population OR if you USE ANABOLIC STEROIDS, you know like the people on this board, you are not insulin sensitive. Using AS makes you insulin resistant (the opposite of insulin sensitive) no matter what kind of shape you're in.
And THAT'S why over 4000 people from these boards RE-ORDERED Glucorell R after trying it once.

 

[MrMakaveli]

Re: Animal calls R-ALA a scam!

Did macro already refute this on ology? Oh well, I guess he'll do it again if he did. Interesting to say the least.

 

[Ulter]

There is nothing to refute with this study. It says that R+ Lipoic Acid doesn't increase glucose uptake if you're already lean and insulin sensitive.

"chronic administration of the water-soluble antioxidant R-ALA to the insulin-sensitive lean Zucker rat does not enhance insulin-stimulated glucose transport activity in skeletal muscle. "

Lean and insulin sensitive people wouldn't be buying a product to help them with carbs that are making them fat. Carbs don't make them fat or they wouldn't be lean and insulin sensitive. It's pretty simple.

 

[juve]

WTF??? OXANDRIN, westsnoop, etc...
did you actually read the studies? they completely refute his stance, although they do not readily account for AF's position.

 

[40butpumpin]

i don't take r-ala for fat loss, i take it because it will help me live longer, and healthier while i am alive.

 

[OXANDRIN]

I like the AF R-ALA i was just posting it so everyone could see what animal was trying to say about it.... thats all