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Much better to take the entire dose first thing in the morning, unless you do early morning cardio, if so take after that.
SgtSlaughter
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yeah, call 911 before you administer the 100mgsdever said:
clen is dosed in micrograms (MCG).
Start slow (20mcg)...ramp up over 2 weeks... 100mcg sounds fine.
When i tried it i stopped at 80mcg... it's not for me, I prefer ECA for a stimulant.
ECA can be turned on and off... clen has a 36 hour half life. Good luck.
SgtSlaughter
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Alot of people when I researched it went 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, the 2 weeks off you can use some kind of OTC fat burner like Thermorexin.sdever said:
Some people like to spread out the dosage, some don't.
Personally I took it all in the a.m.... see what works for you.
I haven't seen 2 days on 2 off.
I'll lay out a dosing scheme that's similar to those usually used:
day 1: 20mcg
day 2: 30mcg
day 3: 40mcg
day 4: 50mcg
day 5: 60mcg
day 6: 70mcg
day 7: 80mcg
day 8: 90mcg
day 9: 100mcg
day 10: 110mcg
day 11: 100mcg
day 12: 80mcg
day 13: 70mcg
day 14: 60mcg
Dosages will vary from user to user, you don't have to pyramid down near the end, if you find that you like it at 90mcg... keep it there for a few days and bump up if need be. If you experience alot of side effects at 60mcg keep it there, ect and bump up after a few days or discontinue use if need be.
Be smart about it.
And make sure you buy some Taurine and potassium before u start the Clen.
SgtSlaughter
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No problem.sdever said:
whoa... you won't even notice some of the muscle hardness with that much extra weight on u bro.
Have you got a quality training program (besides most upper body because of shoulder, you can squat
) for yourself and cardio?Atkins... eh. Start eating clean, quality foods and you'll see some results, cut out all the crap liquid calories (no soda, booze, ect).
Drink water all day long, you'll loose a good amount of water weight and bloat if you haven't already.
Just saying you can get result without using supplements for right now, save the supplements for when you hit a plateau.
Change in one's body comes from the power of diet and training first and foremost.
Sarge my problem is that i want it fast That how I hurt my shoulder lifting to much to soon If I diet and only lose a lb or two a week I get bored and start eating I need to lose a lb a day to keep me motivated so thats why I'll do atkins for 2 months then try to eat clean By the way I'm 54 and 6'2 my body fat was 26 @ 250 before I got injured down from 32bf
ZGzaZ
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sdever said:
Losing a pound or week will yield you the best results, because you'll have enough calories a day to maintain as much muscle mass as possible. If you're looking to lose more, you're going to maintain a lot of fat and drop muscle....not a smart option at all, because you'll still look terrible even if you drop 50lbs. If you get bored losing 1 - 1 1/2lbs a week, then you might as well stay at your weight because dropping 50lbs losing 5-6lbs a week, youre not going to be that happy with your results.
SgtSlaughter
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Have you considered HRT?sdever said:
You may be a prime candidate for that, and that would help you reach your goal and maintain as much muscle as possible.
Congratz on your progress so far!
You want to loose alot, fast... you may look "skinny fat" by the time you diet down because you will loose a good amount of muscle without training.
You will fit into clothes better, ect... but I would not expect to be "chiseled" in any way.
Wow, I didn't know you had that many questions
Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, the 2 days on/off is an old theory that's been thrown away since clen stays in your body longer than that, so you're always on.
Start small and ramp up. Dose completely in the morning, unless you don't want to sleep.
Please don't do Atkins. Also, clen is more of a cutting drug. You really should just depend on diet until you get to at least the mid teens in bf. You won't see the results that you should.
Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, the 2 days on/off is an old theory that's been thrown away since clen stays in your body longer than that, so you're always on.
Start small and ramp up. Dose completely in the morning, unless you don't want to sleep.
Please don't do Atkins. Also, clen is more of a cutting drug. You really should just depend on diet until you get to at least the mid teens in bf. You won't see the results that you should.
Canadian wookie
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im pretty new myself but i just wanted to agree do NOT do akins i did about 2 years back and lost 25lbs in like 3 weeks..... i think 75% was muscle i was skinnier but did not look at all in betetr shape. i strongly sugguest try something else
SgtSlaughter
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oh... no needles, no H.R.T. (legal with a Doctor's prescription, ect)sdever said:
Hormone replacement Therapy = GH (Growth hormone) + Testosterone
= Feeling awesome and looking good from what i've read for bros like yourself.
SgtSlaughter
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I'm not knowledgeable on T3.sdever said:
You should research that because that is a hormone your body produces, so research throughly so you can use responsibly.
SgtSlaughter
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ok. I don't know.sdever said:
do you know how to dose it?
SgtSlaughter
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okey dokey.sdever said:
I don't know as I said. It's a thyroid medication, is it not?
Just be careful and research... it's your body.
ProtienFiend
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ZGzaZ said:
Def. right about taking it slow.
Rabid_Goose
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Take it slow, you shouldn't get bored with your weight. I'm freaking out over 3-4 pounds a week of weight loss because I'm afraid how much of it might be muscle. Only reason I sleep at night is because I'm still making gains every week on my lifts so I know I can't be losing too much, that and my belly seems to be shrinking fast.
Slow is the way to go man. Otherwise you'll be stuck with excess skin that didn't have time to re-adjust to your sudden crash diet that you'll need to get snipped off at the Dr's Office. Losing weight isn't a video game, it is for your body! I can't tell you how much of a difference it is for me, I weighed 275 in high school, lost weight then gained back to 255. I've been working since February and I am now down to 187 or so, I've taken one or two breaks frm dieting and lifting in between. If you look back on from the day I started till the point I am at now, I averaged 2 pounds a week. Once I Find a scanner I'm going to post a before picture of me when I weighed 255 or so and the picture of me now.
Slow....slooowwwwww......ssssllllloooooowwwwwwwwwww! Trust me!
Slow is the way to go man. Otherwise you'll be stuck with excess skin that didn't have time to re-adjust to your sudden crash diet that you'll need to get snipped off at the Dr's Office. Losing weight isn't a video game, it is for your body! I can't tell you how much of a difference it is for me, I weighed 275 in high school, lost weight then gained back to 255. I've been working since February and I am now down to 187 or so, I've taken one or two breaks frm dieting and lifting in between. If you look back on from the day I started till the point I am at now, I averaged 2 pounds a week. Once I Find a scanner I'm going to post a before picture of me when I weighed 255 or so and the picture of me now.
Slow....slooowwwwww......ssssllllloooooowwwwwwwwwww! Trust me!
T3 should be ramped up and back down. So you use it for no more than 6 weeks and let's say you start at 12.5 mcg you do that for 3-4 days, then up to 25 for 3-4 days, then 50, 75, and 100. Then you ramp back down the same way right back to 12.5 or even lower so your thyroid doesn't get hit too hard. T3 and clen kick ass, but it is your thyroid. Get your levels checked before and a month after you get off it to make sure nothing gets messed up.
Also, with T3 you will be hungry a lot more, and I get really tired and easily gassed the couple of times I did it. The steroid forum should have a lot more info on this. Again though diet and exercise are the key.
Also, with T3 you will be hungry a lot more, and I get really tired and easily gassed the couple of times I did it. The steroid forum should have a lot more info on this. Again though diet and exercise are the key.
needtogetaas
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lmaosgtslaughter said:
Kabeetz
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Bro..
Taking clen, and t3 and doing atkins while having no heavy lifting plan with a goal of losing 7 pounds a week.... is extremely dangerous and short sighted.
You didn't put your body in the position it is in now overnight and you can't expect to rectify the situation overnight.
People who put off the weight, keep off the weight for life, and ever achieve anything close to a chiseled look 10 times out of 10 did so using a slow and steady approach that allowed their body to acclimate to the changes it was experiencing as it was being experienced while increasing physical activity as the body adapted and allowed.
Let's say, just for kicks, that you are 250 pounds, 25% body fat. I know u mentioned u were somewhere around that figure pre-injury. That means you have 62.5 pounds of bodyfat. If you lost 62.5 pounds at 7 pounds per week,which is impossible but lets just say since that is your goal, you'd be at 187.5. Do you know what your bodyfat will be at 187.5? Approximately 25%.
Do you know how long you will stay there once u get off the chemicals, get off atkins, and with no consistent lifestyle clean diet in place that you've already proven to yourself you can follow? About a week.
U better put some money in a high yield savings account too because the potential for loose skin is tremendous and nearly guaranteed.
I'm not trying to knock you bro, I'm just trying to knock some sense into you. The way you're talking in your posts, I promise you, will not achieve your medium term goal of a chiseled look.
If you injured yourself doing heavy weightlifting, by going too heavy too fast, the reason is simple: You went too heavy too fast. You ignored form and probably suffered a little from the "peer pressure" effect of wanting to lift as much as the other guys in the gym. Take it slow. Get your form down. Progressively add weight to the bar, don't just throw 10-20 pounds more on the bar because last week was easy. Use a spotter. Strengthen your core. Stretch. Do a couple bar only or bodyweight warm up sets when applicable.
There is nothing wrong with losing 1-2 pounds a week. In fact there is everything right with losing 1-2 pounds a week. If losing 1-2 pounds a week, preventing a heart attack, preventing diabetes, preventing heart disease, being able to breath when u walk up stairs, adding 10-20 years onto your life expectancy so you can see the next generations grow up.... If these aren't all reasons to keep you from getting "bored", I don't know what is.
Taking clen, and t3 and doing atkins while having no heavy lifting plan with a goal of losing 7 pounds a week.... is extremely dangerous and short sighted.
You didn't put your body in the position it is in now overnight and you can't expect to rectify the situation overnight.
People who put off the weight, keep off the weight for life, and ever achieve anything close to a chiseled look 10 times out of 10 did so using a slow and steady approach that allowed their body to acclimate to the changes it was experiencing as it was being experienced while increasing physical activity as the body adapted and allowed.
Let's say, just for kicks, that you are 250 pounds, 25% body fat. I know u mentioned u were somewhere around that figure pre-injury. That means you have 62.5 pounds of bodyfat. If you lost 62.5 pounds at 7 pounds per week,which is impossible but lets just say since that is your goal, you'd be at 187.5. Do you know what your bodyfat will be at 187.5? Approximately 25%.
Do you know how long you will stay there once u get off the chemicals, get off atkins, and with no consistent lifestyle clean diet in place that you've already proven to yourself you can follow? About a week.
U better put some money in a high yield savings account too because the potential for loose skin is tremendous and nearly guaranteed.
I'm not trying to knock you bro, I'm just trying to knock some sense into you. The way you're talking in your posts, I promise you, will not achieve your medium term goal of a chiseled look.
If you injured yourself doing heavy weightlifting, by going too heavy too fast, the reason is simple: You went too heavy too fast. You ignored form and probably suffered a little from the "peer pressure" effect of wanting to lift as much as the other guys in the gym. Take it slow. Get your form down. Progressively add weight to the bar, don't just throw 10-20 pounds more on the bar because last week was easy. Use a spotter. Strengthen your core. Stretch. Do a couple bar only or bodyweight warm up sets when applicable.
There is nothing wrong with losing 1-2 pounds a week. In fact there is everything right with losing 1-2 pounds a week. If losing 1-2 pounds a week, preventing a heart attack, preventing diabetes, preventing heart disease, being able to breath when u walk up stairs, adding 10-20 years onto your life expectancy so you can see the next generations grow up.... If these aren't all reasons to keep you from getting "bored", I don't know what is.
I personally think you are trying to run before you walk. What happened to eating a clean diet, why not try some cardio and work on legs, and see a PT about getting a good range of motion back in your shoulder.
I have done clen and have done t3, and at the time my BF was to high to see any results. The only reason why clen is done with T3, is because some muscle loss will occur with T3 alone, clen helps prevent muscle loss while on T3.
Have you tried a ECA stack? That will help you lean out, then you can try T3 and clen, good luck.
I have done clen and have done t3, and at the time my BF was to high to see any results. The only reason why clen is done with T3, is because some muscle loss will occur with T3 alone, clen helps prevent muscle loss while on T3.
Have you tried a ECA stack? That will help you lean out, then you can try T3 and clen, good luck.
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spangler12
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I agree with Sgt. Slaughter I used clen a few times and I went 2 weeks on 2 weeks off using the Pyramid. Also, I took the full dose in the AM because my cardio sessions were mid PM. Good Luck
SgtSlaughter
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No, I haven't looked into that personally.Cmoazz said:Sgt. You know any names/brands of HRT so I can search
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