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Chest Not Growing!
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lil k
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wow...i am surprised that nobody has talked about your pectoralis minor, which lies beneath the larger pectoralis major.....
if this often overlooked stabilizer is not strong enough or trained enough, your pecs are not going to grow as much as you like....the best exercise for this is the limited range dumbbell pullover....
with a limited range db pullover you lay flat on your back on a flat bench...then raise a db up above you (like you are going to do normal pullovers), then lower the db to where your arms are parallel with the floor, do not go any lower...then lift the db slightly up but not all the way up...lets say 2/3 up....you will feel a huge pull under your chin (that's how you will know you are doing it right)...this is far and away the best exercise for hitting this small muscle and not only will it grown and push the pec major up...but as it grows your body will allow your pecs to grow a lot more....
if this often overlooked stabilizer is not strong enough or trained enough, your pecs are not going to grow as much as you like....the best exercise for this is the limited range dumbbell pullover....
with a limited range db pullover you lay flat on your back on a flat bench...then raise a db up above you (like you are going to do normal pullovers), then lower the db to where your arms are parallel with the floor, do not go any lower...then lift the db slightly up but not all the way up...lets say 2/3 up....you will feel a huge pull under your chin (that's how you will know you are doing it right)...this is far and away the best exercise for hitting this small muscle and not only will it grown and push the pec major up...but as it grows your body will allow your pecs to grow a lot more....
strider364
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What kind of fly/cable movement are you doing?
Jxaxsxe530
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my chest has been exploding lately. the last couple months i've started doing heavy dips and i also at the same time started the DC routine. I dont know how much weighted dips have helped my chest, but i have to give credit to the DC routine. One set, twice every 4 days have pushed both my chest size and strength thru the roof. I dont do inclined and flat bench on the same day but i do alternate them. After years of doing many sets of chest once a week, i concluded that did not work for my chest. I am an extreme hardgainer started out at 115. If ur a hardgainer, maybe u should lower volume and up the frequency?
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lil k said:
For anyone intrested, here is a great article on this:
Chest: Nail the Pec Minor!
The pectoralis minor is a thin, flat muscle lying beneath the larger pectoralis major. It extends laterally and upward, originating from the sternal ends of the upper ribs (3rd-5th) and inserting onto the coracoid process of the scapula. The pec minor pulls the scapula forward and downward and can raise the ribs, thus aiding in forceful inhalation.
The following tip is derived from former Ironman contributor and author of several strength books, Fred Koch. To increase chest size, you have to train both the pec major and minor. The minor tends to get overlooked since it's not as glamorous as the major. Koch notes that the great upper-chest development of swimmers is due to the pec minor which is responsible for half of the freestyle stroke. So how do you train the pec minor without getting wet?
Perform limited-range dumbbell pullovers on a flat bench
According to Koch, the key to this exercise is to keep the elbows close to the head (within the lines of the shoulders) and to use a short range of motion (ROM). If you have a hard time getting into this position, consider Active Release Techniques (ART) for the following muscles: subscapularis, latismus dorsi, teres major, long head of the triceps brachii, and serratus anterior. Visit ActiveRelease.com to find a provider in your area.
Also, according to ART practitioner, Dr. Mark Lindsay, a sling pattern exists between the pectoralis minor and the short head of the biceps. In addition, Dr. Lindsay has noticed a tendency of the pec minor to adhere to the major. In order for the pec minor to function properly, you should free up any adhesions that may exist. If ART isn't an option, you can always stretch your lats by simply hanging from a chin-up bar with one arm. (Scratching your armpit or eating a banana is optional.)
Keep in mind that in most shoulder exercises, the pec minor functions as a stabilizer for the scapula, and not as a prime mover. In the limited-range pullover, however, it acts as a prime mover. Traditionally, this exercise has been touted to improve winging scapulae, but in reality, it does the opposite. The lats are also involved in this movement, and they actually end up pulling your shoulder blades apart! (Poliquin, 1997)
Now, you often hear horror stories about the pullover exercise and, to a certain extent, they're true. For instance, according to Durall et al: "…subacromial impingement can also be exacerbated by exercises that involve excessive flexion. The pullover exercise performed supine with free weights or on a machine forces the rotator cuff tendons and bursa against the undersurface of the acromion when the arms are hyperflexed. This exercise can be made safer by simply limiting flexion to the normal physiological limits or a comfortable ROM."
What this simply means is that if you have any shoulder problems, you might want to avoid this exercise altogether. Yes, performing pullovers on a decline bench is a much safer option to reduce the amount of shoulder flexion, but unfortunately, the pec minor doesn't get overloaded in this position. Okay, enough talk, let's learn to do the darned exercise already!
Cup a dumbbell between both hands and lay back onto a flat bench. With your arms fully extended above your face, carefully lower the weight until your outstretched arms are in line with your body. Keep the small of your back pressed against the bench and brace the abdominals throughout to protect your lower back.
Make sure the elbows stay in (don't let them flare out) or else the lats will kick in. Elbows should be directly beside your ears in the bottom position. Raise the dumbbell in an arcing motion only about six to eight inches, or 45 degrees from horizontal. Again, keep your arms straight throughout, and remember, this is a limited ROM exercise to emphasize the pec minor. You'll actually feel the muscle contract under your chin!
I must reiterate: keep the abdominals tight! Don't allow the back to arch excessively as this movement is notorious for abdominal herniations. The abs are recruited as heavy stabilizers in this movement—just another bonus!
If you're still not convinced about the importance of training the pec minor, then listen up. According to Koch, there are feedback systems within the body to protect you from developing serious imbalances. Subsequently, the body may slow down or even halt the development of the pec major if the minor is underdeveloped. Bottom line: training the minor will make a major difference!
