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which med has the least side effects.i have anxioty problems and doc gave me choice of above meds
celexa, paxil or welbutirn
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JibbyJabba
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Celexa and Paxil are SSRI's and are typically quite effective for anxiety. Wellbutrin is not an SSRI and exhibits its action on dopamine... this is typically not used for anti-anxiety, but for anti-depression. If you are solely having anxiety problems, then an SSRI (Paxil or Celexa) would be better, but 70% of its users report sexual side effects among others (weight gain, lethargy)... Wellbutrin normally does not have any sexual sides, and is more of a stimulant, so you feel very different than Paxil or Celexa. However, some people actually have WORSE anxiety with Wellbutrin... when I was having anxiety/depression issues, I would take a Buspar/Wellbutrin combo. The buspar took the edge off the anxiety, while the wellbutrin made me happy... you might look into this. If you are worried about sides, Wellbutrin and Buspar both tend to not have many associated with them...
Everyone's different bubt Paxil and Celexa both made me a limp-dicked zombie...
Everyone's different bubt Paxil and Celexa both made me a limp-dicked zombie...
Swoleyoley
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all are going to give you unwanted sides...
loss of appetite, sleeplessness, sexual sides, loss of wieght.
i know this is prolly not looked at ass good advice, but if I would rather smoke pot than take these, will take the edge off and not hinder gains
loss of appetite, sleeplessness, sexual sides, loss of wieght.
i know this is prolly not looked at ass good advice, but if I would rather smoke pot than take these, will take the edge off and not hinder gains
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johnboy
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Paxil works the BEST for anxiety
as stated by jiba jaba paxil and Celexa are SSRI's (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors. Seratonin regulates the elictrical impulses in the brain and affects mood, behavior etc. Paxil is by far the best product on the market for anxiety. I took it for 7 months then tapered off (you can't just stop, you must taper off) and I haven't had problems since; if I have it has been on very rare occations and even people without chemical imbalance It does have some sexual side affects but its worth it to suffer a few side affects for 6-7 months and not have anxiety and depression for the rest of your life.
Wellbutrin is a norepinephrine and dopamine re-uptake and shold not be used for anxiety. It can cause anxiety. Wellbutrin is prescribed for depression, Adult attention deficit disorder and also help's people stop smoking. Some doctors prescribe wellbutrin with paxil to counter the sexual side affects. I was always able to get it up when I was on paxil I could stay hard but just didn't get off for over an hour (my girlfriend didn't mind that at all). Paxil is also prescribed for premature ejaculation.
I now take wellbutrin and valium and they seem to work well together. If you are young then your probably won't get put on valium (its very addictive). I took lorazipan for about a year until I built a tolerance and then went to 10mg valium. I would think that if I went a few days without one I would probably go through withdraw. Anyway, I am going to shut up and leave some board space for someone else. I highly suggest the paxil and wish you luck bro.
as stated by jiba jaba paxil and Celexa are SSRI's (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors. Seratonin regulates the elictrical impulses in the brain and affects mood, behavior etc. Paxil is by far the best product on the market for anxiety. I took it for 7 months then tapered off (you can't just stop, you must taper off) and I haven't had problems since; if I have it has been on very rare occations and even people without chemical imbalance It does have some sexual side affects but its worth it to suffer a few side affects for 6-7 months and not have anxiety and depression for the rest of your life.
Wellbutrin is a norepinephrine and dopamine re-uptake and shold not be used for anxiety. It can cause anxiety. Wellbutrin is prescribed for depression, Adult attention deficit disorder and also help's people stop smoking. Some doctors prescribe wellbutrin with paxil to counter the sexual side affects. I was always able to get it up when I was on paxil I could stay hard but just didn't get off for over an hour (my girlfriend didn't mind that at all). Paxil is also prescribed for premature ejaculation.
I now take wellbutrin and valium and they seem to work well together. If you are young then your probably won't get put on valium (its very addictive). I took lorazipan for about a year until I built a tolerance and then went to 10mg valium. I would think that if I went a few days without one I would probably go through withdraw. Anyway, I am going to shut up and leave some board space for someone else. I highly suggest the paxil and wish you luck bro.
hard as rocks
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well i have all of the above.add, ocd. anxiety bla bla bla.so i guess maybey ill take the wellbutrin with something else
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johnboy
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I suggest wellbutrin with paxil
Paxil is the shit and wellbutrin counters the sides from paxil including the sexual side affects. I wouldn't use it more then a year because there is no long term testing for SSRI's. Most people that I know that have taken them more then a year usually take them the rest of their life.
hard as rocks said:
Paxil is the shit and wellbutrin counters the sides from paxil including the sexual side affects. I wouldn't use it more then a year because there is no long term testing for SSRI's. Most people that I know that have taken them more then a year usually take them the rest of their life.
hard as rocks
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i just keep hearing so many horror stories but i really need the meds.im currently on trazadone and xanax but doc does not want me to take xanax all the time so i need something thats longer lasting
diamonddiceclay
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the only low side effect drug is wellbutrin-the others have many sides
Swoleyoley
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you'll be sorry if you take this shit...
hard as rocks
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well for the guy that said ill be sorry.is it better to be trapped in my house and not go out.not sleeping at night because anxiety is so bad.i think ill try meds so i can finally move on with my life
diamonddiceclay
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Take the meds-don't listen to some jobroni on a message board-trust your doctor.hard as rocks said:
JibbyJabba
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Swoleyoley said:
Do you realize that generalizations like this could be taken seriously... just because you had a bad experience doesn't mean others will... you know, there is a reason why Prozac and Paxil are two of the most prescribed meds
Swoleyoley
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OK i must presist to discourage this guy to taking this shit..seeing as I have experience with about every anti med they make..and the conclusion that I drew from all of them was the same, You will feel better when you dont take them than when you do. Maybe not the first time nor the sec but it will evently catch up with you and you will feel so run down, limp dicked that you when not even wanna think about your miserable life.
anyway good luck bro, just giving you my opinion, you do what you like but you ask for advice so don't get mad when you don't hear..."go ahead this will save your life and be the best thing you ever did" because it won't!
anyway good luck bro, just giving you my opinion, you do what you like but you ask for advice so don't get mad when you don't hear..."go ahead this will save your life and be the best thing you ever did" because it won't!
Swoleyoley said:
Paxil was the worst thing that ever happened to my life. I have anxiety/depresion so I was put on 20mg of paxil. I still felt like sh*t so we upped the dose to 40mg. At that point I gradually just became numb and unmotivated. I turned into a hermit and never went anywhere because I was so lazy and careless. I was a sloth for a year. I had no motivation to even get out of bed let alone go about life. I put on a good deal of fat even though my diet was strict as always and I trained religiously. Worst of all it did nothing for my anxiety/depresion. Life was still hell. A few months ago I decided to ween myself off it. I had no withdrawl mercifully and since I've been of the poison I have never felt better. It feels so good to have energy and motivation. My workouts a killer and my mental outlook is sharp. I can think clearly again and I'm dropping body fat. I feel good. I realize that life wasn't so bad....I simply had to try to make it good. I noticed a sudden change once I got off the paxil and concluded things could be worse...like feeling like an unmotivated, numb, braindead, sloth all day as I did on paxil. I sleep much better at night and am actually able to get into deep sleep now, which I feel has made a great impact on my mentality. I too have tried a lot of drugs (buspar, klonopin, xanax, valium, prozac) and came to the conclusion they are shackles in a bottle. Yes xan's and val's are fun to get f**cked up on, but as far as them being an integal part of life it's not fun nor is it worth it. Buspar did nothing. I could have taken a chalk placebo and felt the same effects as with busiprone. My anxiety was worse than my depresion, but both had a profound impact on my well being of life. Now that I'm "clean" I feel so good. I learned how powerfull the mind is. I've learned, for the most part, how to controll my anxiety and most omportantly to think positively...not rely on a pill to do it for me. God bless corporate America and the legislators with thier sticky hands in the pockets of pharmecuetical companies.
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I think Celexa is pretty good stuff. There isn't any crash when you come off of it, and it slowly builds up in your system over time. I don't even know that I am taking it except that I can sleep now, and I am not hyper worried about everything all of the time. I use to lay in bed at night and twitch and kick around and think about programming problems and money problems and girl problems and get myself so worked up that I rarely could sleep. Now sleeping is no problem, and I feel much more relaxed in general. I haven't noticed any problems with weight gain or turning into a dull toad or anything like that with Celexa. Sometimes I like to throw in some Klonophen in with the Celexa along with a beer, and that is a very nice place to be. Everyone is really really different with how those kinds of drugs effect them, so you are really going to just have to try them out and see what works and what doesn't work.
Good luck.
I think Celexa is pretty good stuff. There isn't any crash when you come off of it, and it slowly builds up in your system over time. I don't even know that I am taking it except that I can sleep now, and I am not hyper worried about everything all of the time. I use to lay in bed at night and twitch and kick around and think about programming problems and money problems and girl problems and get myself so worked up that I rarely could sleep. Now sleeping is no problem, and I feel much more relaxed in general. I haven't noticed any problems with weight gain or turning into a dull toad or anything like that with Celexa. Sometimes I like to throw in some Klonophen in with the Celexa along with a beer, and that is a very nice place to be. Everyone is really really different with how those kinds of drugs effect them, so you are really going to just have to try them out and see what works and what doesn't work.
Good luck.
Swoleyoley
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Beezers said:
couldnt agree more..
Malibuboy101
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Wellbutrin is great.
justwannagetsum
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I have been on all of the above mentioined and some good info is given here. Listen to Jibby, johnboy, and diamond. Swoleyvoley is an idiot , ignore him. I have to disagree with johnboy on one point. while wellbutrin wont cause sides, it wont counter sides from paxil either. Some docs know very little about depression/anxiety Make sure he is a certified psyhchaitrist and not some GP. Well butrin can increase anxiety. Paxil and celexa are great for anxiety, but both will either make it difficult to cum or stop ou from getting it up all together. Wellbutrin /buspar is a good combo I take wellbutrin for mild hereditary depression and neurontin and seroquil for anxiety. Neurontin is rough on the sex life, but not as bad as celexa or paxil for me anyways.
but diamod said it best. Take the meds-don't listen to some jobroni on a message board-trust your doctor
but diamod said it best. Take the meds-don't listen to some jobroni on a message board-trust your doctor
justwannagetsum
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You are a idiot if you take that shit
mabe he should drink beer and smoke pot for anxiety...... Heroin is great for anxiet too..
mabe he should drink beer and smoke pot for anxiety...... Heroin is great for anxiet too..
hard as rocks
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when i asked for advice, i was aking which one i should take, not if i should take meds or not.the doc gave me choices so i thought id see which would have the greatest benefit
FullCircle
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Honestly, I am telling you as someone who has been through it all, these drugs have not been proven to be a good long-term aid to your problems. In almost all cases they makie it worse. Read the book "Toxic Psychiatry" by Peter Breggin (or one of Breggins other books regarding these drugs) before you make a decision. These drugs have detrimental life-long effects.
That being said, the drug I found to be the most insufferable was effexor. It doen't have many of the sides associated with paxil or celexa.
Honestly though, I would recommend Inositol, with good therapy to address the problem, and not just the symptoms. Anxiety is NOT just some biological error in your body. Messing with brain chemicals that have long-term side effects is not the way to go.
Here is a link on GaryWary's inositol post:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=106140
Honestly, just like with AAS, do some really good self-education before you make the choice to take anything. I am sorry but I strongly feel that 90% of cases where anti-depressants are issued are not endogenous. The whole concept is yet to really be proven. Dr. Breggins book goes into great detail about it. Its funny how western culture loves to just shove down pills. The drugs literally numb your emotions. Sure, maybe, Maybe you won't feel anxious...but when I was on it, I also forgot real happiness. After that I came off, had severe withdrawls, and the anxiety was back 10 fold. This was even proven to happen in the original FDA trials. People are happier in the long run if they don't take it. Thats been a proven fact, but of course the doctors who get kickbacks, and the drug companies aren't going to tell you that.
Just trying to help my friend.
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That being said, the drug I found to be the most insufferable was effexor. It doen't have many of the sides associated with paxil or celexa.
Honestly though, I would recommend Inositol, with good therapy to address the problem, and not just the symptoms. Anxiety is NOT just some biological error in your body. Messing with brain chemicals that have long-term side effects is not the way to go.
Here is a link on GaryWary's inositol post:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=106140
Honestly, just like with AAS, do some really good self-education before you make the choice to take anything. I am sorry but I strongly feel that 90% of cases where anti-depressants are issued are not endogenous. The whole concept is yet to really be proven. Dr. Breggins book goes into great detail about it. Its funny how western culture loves to just shove down pills. The drugs literally numb your emotions. Sure, maybe, Maybe you won't feel anxious...but when I was on it, I also forgot real happiness. After that I came off, had severe withdrawls, and the anxiety was back 10 fold. This was even proven to happen in the original FDA trials. People are happier in the long run if they don't take it. Thats been a proven fact, but of course the doctors who get kickbacks, and the drug companies aren't going to tell you that.
Just trying to help my friend.
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hard as rocks
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i was diagnosed with all these things since i was a kid.and now they are controoling my life i cant even work anymore
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johnboy
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I respect you deciscion.
I lived with Depression and anxiety for a long time. After 7 months of paxil and I am doing great. I hardly ever get depressed and take valium for the occational anxiety (it has been greatly reduced). You have the right idea bro and I can tell that you are smart. ALWAYS look all the way down the road. Have some sides now but live a life without anxiety and depression is well worth the 6-9 months that you take it.
Wellbutrin counters the sides of paxil, They work EXCELLENT together. If you do suffer some sexual sides (which is unlikely unless you are taking 50mg /day) tell the doc and he will give you some viagra.
hard as rocks said:
I lived with Depression and anxiety for a long time. After 7 months of paxil and I am doing great. I hardly ever get depressed and take valium for the occational anxiety (it has been greatly reduced). You have the right idea bro and I can tell that you are smart. ALWAYS look all the way down the road. Have some sides now but live a life without anxiety and depression is well worth the 6-9 months that you take it.
Wellbutrin counters the sides of paxil, They work EXCELLENT together. If you do suffer some sexual sides (which is unlikely unless you are taking 50mg /day) tell the doc and he will give you some viagra.
Swoleyoley
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the one drug and another drug and another, pretty soon you will be dependent on drugs for everything, don't give me this bullshit about my depression is so bad I can't live with myself w/o drugs because that is complete bullshit!!!!! get a fucking shrink!! Think about it there are people without limbs, messed up from car wrecks and people with terminal illnesses, those are people that need anti depression meds, and Im sure you have it alot better than them, lifes a bitch...but its what you make it! You can eithier try to make the best out of all that you have or drownd yourself in a world full of drugs and wonder what it would be like if I didnt have to dope myself up to feel good.
FullCircle
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Do what you will, we all have to learn on our own I suppose. Jsut remember that the easy road isn't aways the right one. Best of luck.
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hard as rocks
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someone said see a shrink.where do you think im getting the meds from my ass.this was the last resort, ive researched plenty and neen suffering bad for the last 4 months.it took a lot for me to even admit i had a problem. i would just avoid things to make life easier.
its funny how im on an anabolic board but yet people say that drugs rule my life lol.what are you doing on this board.you guys must be natural because steroids are drugs if you remember
its funny how im on an anabolic board but yet people say that drugs rule my life lol.what are you doing on this board.you guys must be natural because steroids are drugs if you remember
Swoleyoley
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last time I checked steroids werent prescribe to alter your mind?!
but fuck it I'm done trying to do people favors by telling how bad this shit is gonna fuck them up, from experience...all I get is bullshit...so you know what FUCK YOU, go fuck yourself up you ignorant STUPID FUCK!
but fuck it I'm done trying to do people favors by telling how bad this shit is gonna fuck them up, from experience...all I get is bullshit...so you know what FUCK YOU, go fuck yourself up you ignorant STUPID FUCK!
marky
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theres a difference
Obviously no one here is referring to the anxiety disease because all i keep reading about self help without meds is total crap. try going 2 years with anxiety and depression and all the fkn therapy, meditaion, or do it yourself bs are as effective as andriol for size. biochem imbalances are NOT manageable alone. sometimes the system gets fked whether it be genetic or life experience but when it does reserve the self help for the egoists.
when the imbalance is treated/checked then comes the time for
behavioral and psychiatric help for minimizing stress which will in effect potentiate the effects of the meds. this is a life long stretch for many.
To hard as rocks: ive had anxiety disease as does my brother for 17 years. In fact it could easily have gone back to the age of 3 years old for me but noone had any idea back then. imiprimine gave me back my life and i found my self and moved forward in life finshed school, got a good job saved money and bought my own business. i was reborn 17 years ago. wish i could drop the meds but multiple attempts have proven my body no longer capable of dissuading the anxiety by itself. its all about setting goals-first get the anxiety in check with an effecdtive med then when it takes effect get busy taking ahold of life and moving forward towards your goals. dont worry about needing meds for life, its really insignificant when you consider the quality of life.
Obviously no one here is referring to the anxiety disease because all i keep reading about self help without meds is total crap. try going 2 years with anxiety and depression and all the fkn therapy, meditaion, or do it yourself bs are as effective as andriol for size. biochem imbalances are NOT manageable alone. sometimes the system gets fked whether it be genetic or life experience but when it does reserve the self help for the egoists.
when the imbalance is treated/checked then comes the time for
behavioral and psychiatric help for minimizing stress which will in effect potentiate the effects of the meds. this is a life long stretch for many.
To hard as rocks: ive had anxiety disease as does my brother for 17 years. In fact it could easily have gone back to the age of 3 years old for me but noone had any idea back then. imiprimine gave me back my life and i found my self and moved forward in life finshed school, got a good job saved money and bought my own business. i was reborn 17 years ago. wish i could drop the meds but multiple attempts have proven my body no longer capable of dissuading the anxiety by itself. its all about setting goals-first get the anxiety in check with an effecdtive med then when it takes effect get busy taking ahold of life and moving forward towards your goals. dont worry about needing meds for life, its really insignificant when you consider the quality of life.
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