Cardio while bulking-yes or no?

[argent]

I little cardio is probably a good idea as other bros said. I'd keep it shorter duration/higher intensity though.

 

[strong island]

FYI...both Chris Aceto, Pavel T. and Charles Poliquin don't believe in cardio during bulking.

Actually I think Poliquin thinks cardio is a waste period.

Anyone read his diet book?

 

[riskybizz007]

I agree w/ Andy's post, and let me clarify in better detail what I was referring to b/c now it's getting out of control. I agree that yes you will lose weight eating 1 snickers a day, a calorie deficit will allow you to lose weight. Now we all know we can modify our diets in various ways to fit our goals, my bottom line in this whole thing was a calorie deficit will make u lose weight. Point and simple as that.

Now when I was referring to eating clean vs not, I was not referring to being able to scarf down donuts as your only food and gain muscle, nor eating saturated fats and accomplishing the same goal. That's ridiculous. I was referring to little cheats here and there, and maybe not the cleanest diet but still not as ridiculous as you make it either. You know for example you need a certain amount of protein, fat and carbs and manipulate them to suit your goals.

I would like to know however, how many people when bulking will eat brown rice over white rice, or not eat any rice or potatoes and just eat veggies. When I'm bulking I do want to enjoy my food, when I'm cutting it becomes a different story. I'm not saying to go eat pounds of lard or snicker bars all day, I'm just saying you might as well enjoy your food. And in the end of bulking, Andy is right, an excess of the calories (as I mentioned) can very well be stored as fat.

 

[Andy13]

Bottom line is this: Thermodynamics no doubt plays the most important role in weight loss. However food choices plays a role in what type of weight is lost. Thermodynamics does not differentiate between fat and muscle so even though the basic rule of calories in vs calories out is undeniable, the type of weight lost or gained in this rule can be different. I guarantee if you bulked on nothing but candy bars while someone else bulked on the foods I listed above at identical caloric intakes, then there would be a definite body composition difference at the end of any given week. And the person eating candy bars wouldn't be the favorable one.

THis is true.. I should clarify what I meant..

The best macro nutrient profile for mass is debatable. Carbs will do infinitely more for you on a cycle than fats...

Let's say that two guys eat the same type and amount of protein..

However, for carbs, one eats brown rice, while the other eats donuts. As long as both eat the same cals/day, both will gain (lose) the same amount of weight.

Andy

 

[serge]

THis is true.. I should clarify what I meant..

The best macro nutrient profile for mass is debatable. Carbs will do infinitely more for you on a cycle than fats...

Let's say that two guys eat the same type and amount of protein..

However, for carbs, one eats brown rice, while the other eats donuts. As long as both eat the same cals/day, both will gain (lose) the same amount of weight.

Andy

what about genetics? their reletive size? im assuming that those will have to be identical, because if you are simply saying that for a given caloric intake over maintanace one will gain the same amount of weight, then i totally disagree.

as for the snickers example, i had a pleasure of working with a girl who was about 5'4 and weight 170lb, all she consumed was one snickers bar per day, she did karatey training 5 days per week, and could not loose any weight, so i do think that there is a point where your body will go into starvation mode and start seriously reducing its metabolic rate