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Candy bar after workout

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Some big guy at gnc told me if I eat a candy bar after workout it will spike my insulin and help me grow :D

Any thoughts??
 
The candy bar will only make your ass fat. Pick one - Pop a handful of organic raisins, or eat a banana, or a plain bagel, fat free pop tart, Gatorade..

These are fast acting carbs that will aide in your post workout insulin depletion.
 
Thanks for input bro there's always a gnc guy full of bad advice...it's like they prey on ppl under 200 pounds.
 
yes there is some truth to this but its not necessarily what the guy was advising since most candy bars are made of pure crap sugar.

his reasoning is restoring the glycogen levels in your muscles, however i think we can find something better than candy bars to accomplish this

here is an excellent article on this very subject

If you ask athletes, “What is the most important meal or snack to boost performance?” the majority will say the pregame meal. But, just as important as pregame fueling is what athletes eat immediately after a workout or contest.

Why? Because after a tough game or practice, the body is stripped of the nutrients it needs to build muscles: glycogen and fluids. The quicker the athlete is able to provide the needed nutritional energy to the body, the quicker the body can start restoring itself. And an athlete’s body can only be fully ready for the next workout or game if its glycogen and fluid stores are completely replenished.

If energy is not replaced, the body becomes weak: muscle and liver glycogen stores remain low, the body can dehydrate, and the likelihood of muscle damage increases. But it’s tough to spot this problem, as the adverse effects of poor postgame nutrition are cumulative and insidious. An athlete is often unaware that he or she has reached suboptimal fluid and glycogen levels until it causes a problem—until performance is adversely affected, fatigue becomes difficult to ignore, weight loss occurs, or injuries increase.

For these reasons, refueling after strenuous exercise is vital for achieving the optimal recovery that enables an athlete to compete again, whether it be in two or 24 hours. Therefore, making recovery eating a planned, scheduled component of training—with the appropriate amount of nutrients delivered in a timely, efficient manner—should be a priority for all basketball athletes.

The Beverage Cart
The first ingredient in the recovery process is fluids. In a two-hour exercise session, fluid loss through sweat can exceed four to five quarts—making rehydration an essential component of the process. Fluid loss is also the source of most athletes’ weight loss during exercise. To determine how much weight an athlete loses through sweat, each player should be weighed before and after practice, especially in situations involving the following: temperature changes; increases in exercise intensity, duration, or number of sessions; and young athletes undertaking rigorous exercise.

The newest guidelines suggest that athletes drink 24 ounces of fluid for every pound lost during exercise. This should be consumed within six hours after exercise to ensure the athlete is achieving optimal hydration status. For example, an athlete who loses three pounds during an exercise session or game would need to drink 72 ounces of fluid (3x24), or approximately three water bottle-sized containers, to replace lost fluid. On average, it take the body 24-48 hours after exhaustive exercise to replace sweat lost.

It’s also important to note that heavy exercise can blunt the thirst response. Therefore, athletes must drink beyond thirst, following the guidelines instead of just drinking until thirst is quenched.

While rehydrating is key to post-exercise refueling, water alone may not be the best recovery fluid. Not only does plain water suppress thirst and increase urine output, causing additional fluid loss, but research has shown that in addition to water, one pound of sweat contains 80 to 100 milligrams of potassium and 400 to 700 milligrams of sodium—two key electrolytes. In a two- to three-hour exercise session, an individual can lose up to 300 to 800 milligrams of potassium and 1800 to 5600 milligrams of sodium.

The answer is not sodium or potassium tablets, but foods and fluids that provide the depleted electrolytes. A post-exercise beverage that contains sodium, or consuming a salty food with a post-activity fluid, helps the body retain water, thereby decreasing urine production without decreasing thirst. Some good choices for sodium include vegetable juice, pretzels, nuts, cheese crackers, and cheese pizza, as well as many sports drinks. Good potassium sources include yogurt, grapefruit juice, bananas, nectarines, and most sports drinks.

Athletes should avoid alcohol, caffeine, and carbonated beverages following strenuous exercise. Alcohol post-exercise can impede recovery by hampering the body’s attempt to rehydrate, and it can interfere with the body’s ability to replenish glycogen, thus impairing the tissue-repair process. And alcohol is a diuretic, causing further dehydration.

Caffeine is also a diuretic, resulting in only 50-percent fluid retention, and is therefore not an appropriate post-exercise fluid choice. Carbonated beverages are not the optimal choice either, as an athlete may feel full before completely rehydrating. A good rule of thumb is: juice first; beer, soda, or latte later!

Another point to consider is the temperature of the beverage. Cool drinks may permit increased intake over ice-cold beverages.

Replacing Glycogen
The other important component of post-exercise refueling is replenishing glycogen stores. Restoring muscle and liver glycogen stores following strenuous training will minimize the fatigue that results from repeated days of heavy training.

Muscles replace glycogen at a rate of five percent per hour, so it takes 20 to 24 hours post-exercise for the body to replenish muscle glycogen stores maximally. However, muscles are most receptive to fuel within 15 minutes after exercise, when the blood flow to the muscles is still very high and the enzymes that produce glycogen are most active. In fact, the lower the muscle glycogen stores at this time, the faster the rate of recovery. Therefore, a delay in intake of post-exercise fuel will slow the recovery rate.

The best way to restore glycogen levels is by consuming adequate amounts of carbohydrate. The goal is to drink and/or eat at least 50 grams of carbohydrate as soon as possible post-exercise.

Despite what many advertisements tout, there is no benefit to a low-carbohydrate/high protein diet for an athlete, as it can contribute to chronic fatigue, slower recovery, and increased risk of injury. Over and over, research has shown that the body cannot efficiently replenish muscle glycogen without carbohydrates.

However, there may be a role for small amounts of protein in post-exercise recovery. Some studies have suggested that a mix of carbohydrate and protein in a 3:1 ratio post-exercise may replenish muscle glycogen more rapidly and promote muscle tissue repair. The idea is that adding protein to the post-exercise fuel results in a greater secretion of insulin than carbohydrate (or protein) alone, and the release of insulin may stimulate muscle growth.

It’s also important to consume the “right” type of carbohydrates, namely those with a moderate-to-high glycemic index. A food’s glycemic index indicates its ability to raise blood glucose, which may enhance the replenishment of muscle-glycogen stores post-exercise. Some examples of foods with a high-glycemic index are potatoes, honey, cereal, corn chips, white bread, jelly beans, and high-carbohydrate sports drinks. Moderate glycemic index choices include cookies, bagels, crackers, wheat bread, ice cream, and potato chips.

When it comes to choosing liquids versus solids for effectiveness and absorption of carbohydrates, either is fine. Liquid and solid carbohydrate-rich foods of comparable carbohydrate content will result in a similar rate of glycogen resynthesis. Many fruits provide both carbohydrate and fluid and thus can be used to satisfy rehydration and glycogen repletion simultaneously. Good choices include grapes, blueberries, apples, peaches, celery, strawberries, melon, tomatoes, oranges, and cherries.

To make things a little confusing, though, one drawback to eating fruit is that it contains fructose. And some research shows that carbohydrate-rich foods containing glucose or sucrose may be twice as effective as those containing fructose in restoring muscle glycogen post-exercise. This is because fructose is converted to liver glycogen, whereas glucose is converted to muscle glycogen.

The bottom line: advise an athlete to include a variety of carbohydrates post-exercise. For example, even though fruit contains fructose, it can be very refreshing and provides fluid to aid in rehydration. So, encouraging consumption of a piece of fruit with another carbohydrate-rich food, such as a bagel or handful of sweetened cereal, will encourage both fluid repletion and glycogen resynthesis. Athletes should also be encouraged to experiment with these foods for taste preference, tolerability, and effect. They can record what foods work best, then make sure to have them available.

Beyond immediate post-exercise consumption, athletes should eat a carbohydrate-rich meal two hours post-exercise. They should then continue to consume carbohydrates throughout the next 24 hours (or before the next workout or game). The maximum level of carbohydrate intake seems to be 500 to 700 grams a day, above which one will get little, if any, added contribution to glycogen storage or improvement in athletic performance.

The number of meals the athlete eats is not important. The most important factor is meeting the carbohydrate requirements. Smaller, more frequent meals may be easier to tolerate for some athletes, but as long as he or she meets the goals in consuming the appropriate amount of carbohydrates, the number of meals is irrelevant.

Make A Plan
The bottom line is that post-exercise eating should be considered a part of performance enhancement. Athletes need to plan and schedule their post-activity snacks and meals with even more focus than pre-competition eating, since training occurs at least once a day, whereas competition may only be a few times per week.

At the high school level, parents and booster clubs can participate in handling the postgame snacks. At any level, handing a large glass of fluid and a sports bar to athletes after workouts or having food available and visible can be a great reminder to refuel. Take advantage of postgame wrap-ups to encourage players to eat and drink.

Achieving optimal hydration and glycogen repletion should be a goal for every athlete. Taking a proactive approach by encouraging athletes to make time for post-exercise eating will enable an athlete to perform at his or her best, not just today, but every day.

For a look at more articles on sports nutrition, visit our Web site, at www.AthleticSearch. com and type the keyword “nutrition,” in the search engine and specify “articles.”


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I’m Not Hungry
For many athletes, the last thing on their minds after a workout is eating. Exhaustive, intense exercise can suppress appetite, and an athlete may complain of a lack of desire to eat after activity. To overcome these objections, athletes should be encouraged to eat and drink something they enjoy—and to facilitate this, the food needs to be easily prepared and easily accessible.

Most athletes are disciplined when it comes to bringing their foot gear, uniform, and other equipment necessary for their sport. They should likewise be encouraged to include appropriate refueling foods and drinks on their equipment lists. Remind them to pack a water bottle, some packets of powdered lemonade or fruit drink mix, a sports drink (if desired), and something to eat that is non-perishable.

Good choices include:
•sports or breakfast bars
•peanut butter or cheese crackers
•dry cereal
•trail mix with cereal, nuts, and
dried fruit
•granola or cereal bars
•graham crackers

If it is possible to keep items cold, athletes should consider one of the following:
•yogurt
•pudding
•cans of a high-carbohydrate drink (sports drink with at least 50 grams of carbohydrate per serving)
•milk, to which a chocolate powder or powdered instant breakfast could be added

For cold weather, warm foods eaten post-exercise can expedite blood flow to the extremities. A thermos filled with hot cocoa or access to hot water to add to instant soup or instant oatmeal can make a warming, nourishing post-exercise fuel
 
yeah insulin post spike after a workout is apparantly very important for growth....a candy bar would work but it is definitely not the best option.
 
i personly liek 2 candy bars with a protein shake with 2 scoops whey protein

that or a bottle of cold mountin dew soft drink and a protein shaker with 2 scoops of whey

hits the spot nicely

may not be best option but after your workout who the hell wants to eat dry cereal or dry fruit anyways?

Amen
 
i personly liek 2 candy bars with a protein shake with 2 scoops whey protein

that or a bottle of cold mountin dew soft drink and a protein shaker with 2 scoops of whey

hits the spot nicely

may not be best option but after your workout who the hell wants to eat dry cereal or dry fruit anyways?

the food quality in australia is totally different than the US.

we use different sugars in our soft drinks and candy bars than you guys do.. something call high fructose corn syrup. that and the soybean and hydrogenated oils is why almost every American is obese or they flat out don't care..
when i was overseas I drank a sprite myself and my gf at the time couldn't believe it, but i explained to her that the sugar is not the same overseas as we have in the states. I would most definately not touch most candy bars or any soft drink in the US.

also caffeine is very popular in almost every soft drink in the states which is catabolic and i would definately not touch that after a workout

most americans live off caffeine and sugar but they are too ignorant to read ingredients.. there is a culture that being fat is healthy and people refuse to admit that a male that has 25% bf or a women with 30% bf is obese. to them that is 'average' weight.
 
Just go home and eat a high protein, high carb, low fat meal. If you want a pwo shake have one, but chewing your pwo meal is always going to be your best bet.

A candy bar and a shake is a good way to get fat. Don't take advice from that guy anymore.
 
it is true but not the best source of carbs post workout or ever for that matter imo

a candy bar provides no nutritional value as far as vitamins and minerals go. Candy bars sometimes contain fat too.

I usually do watermelon, pineapple or bananas post workout with whey and egg whites
 
The candy bar will only make your ass fat. Pick one - Pop a handful of organic raisins, or eat a banana, or a plain bagel, fat free pop tart, Gatorade..

These are fast acting carbs that will aide in your post workout insulin depletion.

The low-fat poptarts, haha, yes! I thought I was one of the only ones to do this post workout, cinnamon, DELICIOUS!

Now, however, it's all Karbolyn and Rice Cakes for me... contest prep and all.
 
i really will never understand american lifestyle and food

i really have to travel to america to see this


now if you go to the coast of Cali.. cities like SF, LA, SD people live different lifestyles.. or the northeast people care about their health.. but the south and middle america for a woman to be 200 pounds is considered normal. even at my gym easily half of women and men are overweight.

the difference is in the US we grow a lot of corn and soy .. they put it in everything. its cheap, they feed it to our cattle, pigs, chickens, etc. they turn it into soybean oil and high fructose corn syrup and put it in our drinks and foods.

I buy organic and I always read ingredients. it can be done but people just seem to not care, its a culture of ignorance and acceptance of obesity. its easier and cheaper to buy something out of a box or go to the fast food restaurant than it is to buy produce and cook your own food. its a shame but I've read that if people were to eat healthy food then we would run out of food very quickly... what troubles me though is when i see kids who are obese cause their fat parents would rather take them to the fast food joint than take the time and effort to cook them a nutritious food, or whose parents just buy them video games to shut them up instead of enrolling them in karate or a sport.

I would love to go to Australia one day, they are some of the most gorgeous women on the planet. you are lucky my friend
 
now if you go to the coast of Cali.. cities like SF, LA, SD people live different lifestyles.. or the northeast people care about their health.. but the south and middle america for a woman to be 200 pounds is considered normal. even at my gym easily half of women and men are overweight.

the difference is in the US we grow a lot of corn and soy .. they put it in everything. its cheap, they feed it to our cattle, pigs, chickens, etc. they turn it into soybean oil and high fructose corn syrup and put it in our drinks and foods.

I buy organic and I always read ingredients. it can be done but people just seem to not care, its a culture of ignorance and acceptance of obesity. its easier and cheaper to buy something out of a box or go to the fast food restaurant than it is to buy produce and cook your own food. its a shame but I've read that if people were to eat healthy food then we would run out of food very quickly... what troubles me though is when i see kids who are obese cause their fat parents would rather take them to the fast food joint than take the time and effort to cook them a nutritious food, or whose parents just buy them video games to shut them up instead of enrolling them in karate or a sport.

I would love to go to Australia one day, they are some of the most gorgeous women on the planet. you are lucky my friend

Mexican groceries and Halal groceries are in every decent sized city in the U.S. and are great for finding stuff that's generally healthier/more natural.
 
I drive a nice sports car. I really like my car. I only put the best gasoline, oil or fluids in it. It performs great and I hope it lasts me a few more years.

I want to perform better than my car. I like myself even more than the car. I only put good quality foods and drinks in my system.

This analogy told to me by a doctor changed my life and performance more than any other techique, training routine, or supplement.

I get cheats here and there.. and when Im on vacation or out at a party Im not a organic preacher but 95+% of the time its quality in = quality out.
 
lol at this thread. 200lbs is the norm but seeing a colossal 400+lb fat bitch in a scooter at the supermarket isn't a rare sight. Shit pisses me off when people like that take up the entire isle while asking for help to reach for the twinkies.
 
lol at this thread. 200lbs is the norm but seeing a colossal 400+lb fat bitch in a scooter at the supermarket isn't a rare sight. Shit pisses me off when people like that take up the entire isle while asking for help to reach for the twinkies.

Go to Golden Coral and pay just to sit there. You'll see gargantuan lard asses sitting on 2-3 chairs huffing and puffing for 20 minutes after every trip to the buffet.
 
after a workout if you restore your glycogen levels, get sleep/rest, and HYDRATE yourself (not sit on the couch and drink beer but drink a ton of water) then you will give yourself the best chance to grow muscle

What if we aren't restoring our Glycogen levels? For example on this CKD diet, Mon - Fri I'm usually working out hard enough were I feel sick to my stomach by the time I'm heading out the door (part. tues and thurs - cardio days), but then I go home and make a protein shake from Water, 3/2 scoops of ON Whey, and 3 tablespoons olive oil so my total carbs are like 2-4 grams, very insignificant. I've increased my overall calorie intake to start increasing muscle mass but still not doing carbs, am I inhibiting growth?
 
What if we aren't restoring our Glycogen levels? For example on this CKD diet, Mon - Fri I'm usually working out hard enough were I feel sick to my stomach by the time I'm heading out the door (part. tues and thurs - cardio days), but then I go home and make a protein shake from Water, 3/2 scoops of ON Whey, and 3 tablespoons olive oil so my total carbs are like 2-4 grams, very insignificant. I've increased my overall calorie intake to start increasing muscle mass but still not doing carbs, am I inhibiting growth?

yes, basically that is a cutting diet and what you are doing is eating the protein solely for muscle retention, as oposed to building it...
 
I've had Snickers pre, during, and post training!

Normally I just have 75g whey with lots of apple juice though.
 
I've had Snickers pre, during, and post training!

Normally I just have 75g whey with lots of apple juice though.

you ever try a nutrageous bar? you will be hooked...
im sooooo over dieting for looks... im going to enjoy what i eat during the day, and get better strength gains at that...
dont get me wrong, i still eat my veggies... french fries count right?






jk... i get at least a few unraped servinings of veg's a day...
 
I don't do junk I have a large cup of fruit juice right after take a shower then eat a banana with a protein shake
 
What if we aren't restoring our Glycogen levels? For example on this CKD diet, Mon - Fri I'm usually working out hard enough were I feel sick to my stomach by the time I'm heading out the door (part. tues and thurs - cardio days), but then I go home and make a protein shake from Water, 3/2 scoops of ON Whey, and 3 tablespoons olive oil so my total carbs are like 2-4 grams, very insignificant. I've increased my overall calorie intake to start increasing muscle mass but still not doing carbs, am I inhibiting growth?

there are different levels of what an individual wants to achieve.

a buddy of mine likes being skinny.. he eats NOTHING on sunday's (he fasts all day).. he benches like 85 pounds.. BUT he can bicycle up a mountain faster than anyone i know.. he will get to the top and not even be out of breath and I will be way behind him and struggling.

most everyone on this board is trying to achieve the bodybuilding body, but there are also powerlifters, strongmen, endurance athletes, boxers, MMA fighters etc etc. but usually when i post something on here its gonna be geared towards building mass so like moya said the answer is yes, you are gonna inhibit growth by not eating enough. but not everyone is trying to put on muscle mass. sometimes i have to remember this cause I usually post on the AAS forum which is mostly guys who are trying to put on mass and strength.
 
I just put 15-25g of dextrose in my post and pre workout shake. Fast digesting, tastes good, and is super cheap.
 
Here's what I do.

I add one tablespoon of chocolate syrup with my whey protein right after gym. Works like a charm :)
 
I believe based on experience, science, and longevity of the supplement... that Vitargo is truly the best for post workout insulin signaling. However, when it comes to cost consideration, Karbolyn along with NTBM GEAR post workout is amazing, and has been working very well for me! I'M BACK ON NTBM'S GEAR DURING THIS CONTEST PREP, and I'm very, very excited about what I have in store with this chicken blood masterpiece :)
 
a buddy of mine likes being skinny.. he eats NOTHING on sunday's (he fasts all day).. he benches like 85 pounds.. BUT he can bicycle up a mountain faster than anyone i know.. he will get to the top and not even be out of breath and I will be way behind him and struggling.

most everyone on this board is trying to achieve the bodybuilding body, but there are also powerlifters, strongmen, endurance athletes, boxers, MMA fighters etc etc. but usually when i post something on here its gonna be geared towards building mass so like moya said the answer is yes, you are gonna inhibit growth by not eating enough. but not everyone is trying to put on muscle mass. sometimes i have to remember this cause I usually post on the AAS forum which is mostly guys who are trying to put on mass and strength.

I freaking love you!

You won't find any performance athlete that skimps on calories. A bad calorie is better than no calorie!
 
yeah i also heard if u have a couple pixie sticks (dextrose sugar) b4 ur postworkout protein shake was suppost to really help, but i dunno, i think some people just read to much flex and muscular development magazines
really man just figure out your body and what it respones to, i know people who eat like shit and there bodies are amazing as long as they hit the gym then can eat whatever they want, some guys follow all this eat skinless chicken breast and granola and food that taste like pure cardboard but it work for them, and some people eat healthy all week and cheat durning the weekend, and that works for them, just trial and error till u have ur body down pact and figure out whats best for u and ur goals






 
^^^yeah we've had these discussions a million times. will give you an example... I eat pizza myself.. but I dont buy the greasy white dough from the big chain places... I buy my pizza from whole foods where they use wheat dough or i buy the frozen organic pizza.. and eat in MODERATION. have a slice or two.. don't eat the whole thing.

these are simple things you can do and still enjoy the foods you love.. a rule i have is if i eat something and feel like crap afterwards, then I won't eat it again.

always follow up a cheat meal with a lot of fruit and water
 
yeah if i do have a cheat meal i make up for it. ill 'fiber' up afterwards. Also ill probably take in a lot of protein even if its in shake form. I also try to schedule chead meals after crazy workouts. try to minimize the damage they can do.
 
A couple years ago when i was really cutting i continued to eat a cany bar (snickers) after most of my work outs and i continued to get lean.... I was doing cardio am n weights pm.... Diet was n check ecept pwo
Ya ofcourse theres better source of sugar the snickers got some fat on it but if ur going to have one mine as well be at the best time 4 it jmo

Flame away hahha
 
A couple years ago when i was really cutting i continued to eat a cany bar (snickers) after most of my work outs and i continued to get lean.... I was doing cardio am n weights pm.... Diet was n check ecept pwo
Ya ofcourse theres better source of sugar the snickers got some fat on it but if ur going to have one mine as well be at the best time 4 it jmo

Flame away hahha

I think the body is set up to absorb anything thrown at it after a hard workout... I did cinnamon sugar Pop Tarts post workout for a long time, LOVE THOSE THINGS, MMMMMM! Also, for a long time as well I even had white bread SOAKED in honey on top and Smucker's jelly mixed in, insulin SURGE! :)
 
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