Canadians are not happy about the figure skating results...

[smallmovesal]

catriona is married and lives in saskatoon (in my home province).

 

[SSAlexSS]

Judging is bs....
It's all policitical hogwash, as my pappy would of said

Judging is fair when we win and unfair when we loose!
Remember last olympics where Canada stirred up a mess at its placing. This year is a rerun....

CANADA LOST. Period. Now with all the judges an d lawyers MAYBE we gonna get our first gold medal in the olympics/

 

[SSAlexSS]

Actually the Canadian team should have won not the Russians.

The Russians should have lost at least 2/10 of a point for falling out of the double axle - costly error which they did not receive.


The French judge gave a higher mark to the Russian team in trade to get a higher mark given to the French Dance Pairs.

Both judges should be axed and I imagine the Canadian team will quietly take their Silver Medal and when no expects it there will be a lawsuit pending.

I guarantee that.

If you don't believe that the judges are bribed and swayed regularly you are mistaken.

I havent seen that match, but from what I see. Russians won.

Russian rasputins there had a harder routine and had better artistry. No wonder
they won. Hey sure Candains had a flawless routine technically, but it was easy! While russian soldiers out there did their jorb , much harder job.

Too bad Canadians didnt suck it up like the last oolympics and another big fuss. No figure skating will be disgraced ... By Canada,,, Oh no! Such a disgrace.

SOme judges like applies, some oranges. Suzoe likes banans but not appels, andrew likes oranges and not bananes, ivan drinks vodka and not sissy apple juice!
Moral to the story is: Different judges have different likes. Russian team was quilty of having a rotuine that the judges liked.

Jey we live in a democracy! Majority rules... I hope....

 

[big4life]

Any sport with judging as the final outcome is bound to have controversial outcomes, because it will be based on subjectivity.


I think that it is sad, that no matter what happens from here on out with this situation, their experience will always be tainted because of this. If they give the Canadians a gold, some people will wonder if they really deserved it, just like some wonder about the Russians.

 

[velvett]

I havent seen that match, but from what I see. Russians won.

How can you form an opinion if you haven't seen either skate.

 

[SSAlexSS]

How can you form an opinion if you haven't seen either skate.

But I hear all the discussions/commenets, so that is it. And I dont think that judges
have put fake results for past 11 years.... Knowiong how guys from Canada like to complain about results, I can suspect what has happened here.

 

[danielson]

But I hear all the discussions/commenets, so that is it. And I dont think that judges
have put fake results for past 11 years.... Knowiong how guys from Canada like to complain about results, I can suspect what has happened here.

they had video fottage of judges send ach other messages by foot movemetns from the world championships 3 years ago

 

[velvett]

Beautiful Velvett. Less technical errors cannot be considered flawless can it?

I don't want to argue - so I will end my ranting with this statement.

Both teams had flaws.

Anton of the Russian team fell out of a required jump. Falling out of a jump is and can be judged as NOT filling a technical requirement.

Jamie of the Canadian team leaned too far forward but still landed the jump cleanly and on an OUTSIDE edge. Anton did not.

THAT is the key - not fullfilling a requirement will cost any skater more points than poorly executing a clean landing of a jump.

Was the Russians program more difficult? Depends on the skater's abililty - I used to do double triple combinations with ease yet struggled on double axle combinations. Regardless - it would not matter because it was the long program in question not the short program. The short program carries more weight technically than the long along those lines.

I'm happy to point out all the finer details of figure skating, figure skating competitions and judging requirements with the 23 years experience to draw from.


This is not the first time that people have questioned judges - but when you break it down to technical requirement it becomes more black and white and less objective.

"We also got more unconfirmed allegations yesterday - the most provocative one being that embattled French figure skating judge Marie Reine Le Gougne has admitted to the International Skating Union officials, as well as some fellow Olympic judges, that she felt pressured by her federation to provide the swing vote that lifted Russian pair Elena Berezhnaya and Anton Sikharulidze to the gold medal Monday, just ahead of Canada's Jamie Sale and David Pelletier."

"There are three public allegations, all involving French judge Marie Reine Le Gougne, who broke a 4-4 tie that mirrored old Cold War lines and voted for the Russians. One allegation is that she did so in return for a vote for a French pair that is a gold-medal contender in the ice-dancing competition that begins tomorrow; there is no French judge on the ice dancing panel. A second is that Le Gougne voted for the Russians in a deal to avenge a loss by the French dance team to the Canadians at the Grand Prix in Canada in December. A third is that she was pressured by her national federation to vote for the Russian pair."

Since judges are not required to speak of their actions as they are regarded to judging Le Gougne will never have to admit to the acusation. However, the referee Ronald Pfenning who oversaw the judges during the competition - can comment of what he observed and overheard.

I don't think the Russians should lose their Gold - they did not do anything wrong - the judges in question did - I would like to see the Canadians and the Russians share the placement.

 

[Lucky]

From what I am hearing the Americans are crying foul louder then the Canadiens for the Canadiens. Also now I hear one of our skaters should have one an event and the judges are really being dumped on

 

[velvett]

From what I am hearing the Americans are crying foul louder then the Canadiens for the Canadiens. Also now I hear one of our skaters should have one an event and the judges are really being dumped on

Canadians?

Also now I hear one of our skaters should have one an event and the judges are really being dumped on

What does that mean exactly?