California Senate Votes For Same-Sex Marriage

[curling]

We do have our own children - they're called straight people - and they're a pretty fucked up bunch of brats, let me tell you.

REally? Well, we ain't the ones sticking sqare block in the round hole now are we?

Yes, curling, marriage should be between a man and a woman, thus saith Curling and George W. And then it was . . .

And alot of other people besides us? I mean aren't gays suppose to be kinda artsy and creative can't you come of with your own term for pledged unfaithfullness to each other besides using our term called marriage?

 

[stilleto]

lol @ morality being taught to us by a guy who has sex in the same room as his teenage daughters....

 

[curling]

lol @ morality being taught to us by a guy who has sex in the same room as his teenage daughters....

Once again, it was under the covers at 4am in the morning and we thought they were asleep and btw WE ARE MARRIED.

 

[justyxxxx]

REally? Well, we ain't the ones sticking sqare block in the round hole now are we?


And alot of other people besides us? I mean aren't gays suppose to be kinda artsy and creative can't you come of with your own term for pledged unfaithfullness to each other besides using our term called marriage?

Square blocks in the round hole curling? What kind of cocks have you been looking at? Mine is nothing like that - I'll show you sometime once you've come off your high horse.

No - gays take on the smart point of, "Why reinvent the Wheel?" and so we're just planning to steal YOUR term marriage. It's called business - it's thinking smart . . . . kind of like the folk-lore story of the bra and brassiere:
http://www.snopes.com/business/origins/bra.asp

 

[justyxxxx]

Once again, it was under the covers at 4am in the morning and we thought they were asleep and btw WE ARE MARRIED.

Curling - you are one FUCKED UP FREAK. Join us - my friend - you would be an excellent leader (under me, of course).

 

[needtogetaas]

sick thats all I wil say,sick.

 

[curling]

Square blocks in the round hole curling? What kind of cocks have you been looking at? Mine is nothing like that - I'll show you sometime once you've come off your high horse.

You know what I meant.

No - gays take on the smart point of, "Why reinvent the Wheel?" and so we're just planning to steal YOUR term marriage. It's called business - it's thinking smart . . . . kind of like the folk-lore story of the bra and brassiere:
http://www.snopes.com/business/origins/bra.asp

Because you took the wheel and turned it your own way. So why shouldn't ya'll name your own wheel.

 

[justyxxxx]

sick thats all I wil say,sick.

yes curling is sick - very sick curling . . . you shouldn't have ever done that curling.

You thought they were asleep and they were awake? OH MY GOD!! What kind-of fucked up life are you creating for these kids? It's you that should reconsider your lifestyle.

 

[curling]

Curling - you are one FUCKED UP FREAK. Join us - my friend - you would be an excellent leader (under me, of course).

No thank ya. I like the plumbing on chicks better. Dudes are hairy and smelly chicks are pretty, soft and have boobs. I think I will stay on the straight team bro.

 

[justyxxxx]

No thank ya. I like the plumbing on chicks better. Dudes are hairy and smelly chicks are pretty, soft and have boobs. I think I will stay on the straight team bro.

You clearly haven't been with the right dudes curling . . . I'm nice and smooth with a round dick and not a square one.

Good grief - we're way off subject. Blame Curling!

 

[justyxxxx]

I have to go - I have work to do - DAMN!

 

[thelion2005]

I am in favor of marriage to be between a man and woman only.
I am not going to carry a sign about it, but I do think this is correct.
This is the most favorbale invironment for children.

However, same-sex couples should have a type of commitment ritual available so that they can have legal recognition. Gay people are not going to simply vanish so we do not have a problem any more. We must accomodate them.

 

[stilleto]

Once again, it was under the covers at 4am in the morning and we thought they were asleep and btw WE ARE MARRIED.

yes, but they weren't asleep and heard you.
my point is- don't cast judgement upon others.... see what i mean?

 

[curling]

yes, but they weren't asleep and heard you.
my point is- don't cast judgement upon others.... see what i mean?

I am not casting judgement on them that isn't my job. That is left up to the entity that created everything and everyone. I am just saying that marriage is union between a man and woman and that term should stay between a man and a woman. If the gays want a union left them come up with their own term for it. Heck they already took "happy" meaning of the word gay and our rainbow that is enough.

 

[stilleto]

I am not casting judgement on them that isn't my job. That is left up to the entity that created everything and everyone. I am just saying that marriage is union between a man and woman and that term should stay between a man and a woman. If the gays want a union left them come up with their own term for it. Heck they already took "happy" meaning of the word gay and our rainbow that is enough.

i don't believe its the 'word' they want as it is so much the 'legality' of it. and your god can do all that you want it to, but it can't make or break laws- thats up to people.

 

[needtogetaas]

yes curling is sick - very sick curling . . . you shouldn't have ever done that curling.

You thought they were asleep and they were awake? OH MY GOD!! What kind-of fucked up life are you creating for these kids? It's you that should reconsider your lifestyle.

I was talking about the hershy highway plowers

 

[curling]

i don't believe its the 'word' they want as it is so much the 'legality' of it. and your god can do all that you want it to, but it can't make or break laws- thats up to people.

I disagree. If God made everything, why shouldn't He get to make the rules? And He did make rules btw because since He is alll knowing He knows what is best for His creation.

 

[Tiervexx]

I'm pleased at this: it didn't come as a result of a court's ruling. As a general proposition, this is exactly how legislation should come about -- from the legislature.

More statist horseshit.

If a group of individuals choose to get married it is their absolute right to do so.

If a third party (by third party I mean one not involved in the action) decides to get in the way than they are guilty of aggression. Whether that third party is a government agent such as a judge, or llegislator, or a crazy hillbilly with a gun is absolutly meaningless.

 

[needtogetaas]

I disagree. If God made everything, why shouldn't He get to make the rules? And He did make rules btw because since He is alll knowing He knows what is best for His creation.

dame fucken right.

 

[Tiervexx]

I disagree. If God made everything, why shouldn't He get to make the rules? And He did make rules btw because since He is alll knowing He knows what is best for His creation.

False, what makes someone happy is entirly subjective. Only I can know what is best for me and I don't know anything more about what is best for you than what you could for me.

Whether this god of yours is just a really smart guy, or "all knowing" does not make him any more qualified to say what really is a better way for someone to live their life.




I'll take it a step further, I'd bet my soul that if god exists that he/she/it is smart enough to understand this.

 

[Tiervexx]

More statist horseshit.

If a group of individuals choose to get married it is their absolute right to do so.

If a third party (by third party I mean one not involved in the action) decides to get in the way than they are guilty of aggression. Whether that third party is a government agent such as a judge, or legislator, or a crazy hillbilly with a gun is absolutely meaningless.

It amazes me that political "science" takes it for granted that Government must be different than just any gung of thugs that would choose to regulate an control people, because any sense of consistent logic rips that apart in a hurry.

 

[Ish]

Curling, the problem with that is, there is more than one religion. I'm sure you have heard about a couple of them. What if the book you read isn't the one about the real god? Then is it alright to just follow his rules, according to your false book?

I disagree. If God made everything, why shouldn't He get to make the rules? And He did make rules btw because since He is alll knowing He knows what is best for His creation.

 

[curling]

False, what makes someone happy is entirly subjective. Only I can know what is best for me and I don't know anything more about what is best for you than what you could for me.

Whether this god of yours is just a really smart guy, or "all knowing" does not make him any more qualified to say what really is a better way for someone to live their life.

Well, if He is all knowing then He would know what was best for you regardless if it made you happy or not. I am sure herion addicts think they are happy right after they shoot up too.

I'll take it a step further, I'd bet my soul that if god exists that he/she/it is smart enough to understand this.

Don't bet your soul you might not play the fiddle as good as the devil does.

 

[75th]

More statist horseshit.

If a group of individuals choose to get married it is their absolute right to do so.

If a third party (by third party I mean one not involved in the action) decides to get in the way than they are guilty of aggression. Whether that third party is a government agent such as a judge, or llegislator, or a crazy hillbilly with a gun is absolutly meaningless.

Sorry, you misunderstood my point. Im glad since the very idea of homosexual unions did not have to be dragged through the Supreme Court mud.

 

[stilleto]

I disagree. If God made everything, why shouldn't He get to make the rules? And He did make rules btw because since He is alll knowing He knows what is best for His creation.

but "he" doesn't make the rules. people do. you can be judged by him at the END of your life, but right now, the court system judges it and the government makes the rules.
unfortunately for you, you shouldn't be the one to decide who can marry whom.

 

[75th]

As of 7 pages, the only one who even attempted to make some sort of valid argument is Curling, which is pretty sad, considering he is forgetting the 1 cardinal rule of this thread: discounting wacko religious beliefs, why should two men or two females not be allowed to form a legal union?

 

[curling]

but "he" doesn't make the rules. people do. you can be judged by him at the END of your life, but right now, the court system judges it and the government makes the rules.
unfortunately for you, you shouldn't be the one to decide who can marry whom.

But you see it what rules we make does effect me and my family and everybody for that matter. Because God will get upset with people that go against his rules and after seeing what happen to New Orleans I don't want God angry at this nation do you?

75ish thanks and I did break the rules of the thread because they were silly rules to begin with. You can't take God out of the equation because He is in it like it or not.

 

[75th]

75ish thanks and I did break the rules of the thread because they were silly rules to begin with. You can't take God out of the equation because He is in it like it or not.

Says you. God should have no say on what decisions we make regarding laws of the land.

 

[curling]

Says you. God should have no say on what decisions we make regarding laws of the land.

Really? And why is that?

 

[75th]

Really? And why is that?

Because he doesnt exist. And even if he did, not everybody wants to follow some rules written in a book by a bunch of homeless guys about 2,000 years ago,

 

[AAP]

I disagree. If God made everything, why shouldn't He get to make the rules? And He did make rules btw because since He is alll knowing He knows what is best for His creation.

If God made everything, then who is to tell him that his creation (gays) are wrong? Who is to second guess whether or not God knows what is best?

 

[bluepeter]

All men created equal.

Has that ever been true in the US of A?

Homosexuals should be offered the same opportunities as heterosexuals. The California senate appears to agree which is definitely a good thing. Too bad religion appears to run contrary to treating everyone as human beings.

 

[-SD-]

[Grand Moff Tarkin/] This bickering is pointless! [Grand Moff Tarkin/]

 

[Tiervexx]

Sorry, you misunderstood my point. Im glad since the very idea of homosexual unions did not have to be dragged through the Supreme Court mud.

I understood your point very well. I've heard it often enough, but your point is meaningless.

 

[Tiervexx]

Because he doesnt exist. And even if he did, not everybody wants to follow some rules written in a book by a bunch of homeless guys about 2,000 years ago,

Homeless guys? The major religons where engineered by brilliant kings to serve their purposes.

Don't bet your soul you might not play the fiddle as good as the devil does.

You are also beting your soul on your beliefs. It is unaviodable.

 

[Tiervexx]

As of 7 pages, the only one who even attempted to make some sort of valid argument is Curling, which is pretty sad, considering he is forgetting the 1 cardinal rule of this thread: discounting wacko religious beliefs, why should two men or two females not be allowed to form a legal union?

I addressed that question with:

If a group of individuals choose to get married it is their absolute right to do so.

If a third party (by third party I mean one not involved in the action) decides to get in the way than they are guilty of aggression. Whether that third party is a government agent such as a judge, or legislator, or a crazy hillbilly with a gun is absolutly meaningless.

Obviously this is an argument for, rather than against legal unions but it is still in the direction of your question.

 

[Tiervexx]

Well, if He is all knowing then He would know what was best for you regardless if it made you happy or not. I am sure herion addicts think they are happy right after they shoot up too.

AND THEY ARE!!!

every time you eat a candy bar, or drink alcohol you are in effect trading a little bit of your life's length for more quality, with heroin the trade off is far greater, but what is and is not an acceptable trade is entirely subjective. If everyone only lived for time than the world would really be pointless!

 

[75th]

I addressed that question with:



Obviously this is an argument for, rather than against legal unions but it is still in the direction of your question.

True that. I probably passed over it simply because it actually made sense, unlike 99% of the other posts in this thread.

 

[Austin316]

Im for Civil Unions and benefits and all that I just still can't agree on actual "marriage" thats a religious symbol to me and its a symbol of the union of the two sexes that exist on this earth. Oh well most people could give a shit less about religion or history anywhoo so this point won't matter to many

 

[Tiervexx]

Im for Civil Unions and benefits and all that I just still can't agree on actual "marriage" thats a religious symbol to me and its a symbol of the union of the two sexes that exist on this earth. Oh well most people could give a shit less about religion or history anywhoo so this point won't matter to many

exactly, the "m" word is a religious matter. BUT the state forces it to be a legal matter by producing any legal definition of it. You can not fairly expect anyone to respect your religion unless you honor theirs, and if the state gives up control of marriage all together than everyone can have their way simultaneously (we can marry, and you can continue believing that it does not really count, everybody wins).

Im for Civil Unions and benefits …

Right now these “benefits” are forcing the state to produce a definition of marriage. Not wanting to share these benefits are the only even halfway logical reason social conservatives have for not wanting to legalize gay marriage, but the problem is obviously with these socialist benefits, not gays.

 

[Mr. dB]

I'm not gay, but I'd like to have a same-sex marriage just to piss people off.

I won't consummate it though. I won't even kiss the dude.

 

[justyxxxx]

I'm not gay, but I'd like to have a same-sex marriage just to piss people off.

I won't consummate it though. I won't even kiss the dude.

ha ha ha - that is TOO COOL!

 

[justyxxxx]

What do same sex couples call each other anyway - partners? That's kind of boring. Groom #1 and #2 - ahhh - that's boring too. How about groom and groomette?Nahhh - how about gay and gayer? And for lesbians - bride and butch?

 

[Tiervexx]

What do same sex couples call each other anyway - partners? That's kind of boring. Groom #1 and #2 - ahhh - that's boring too. How about groom and groomette?Nahhh - how about gay and gayer? And for lesbians - bride and butch?

LOL, I've often thought about this myself.

Partner makes it sound like you own a law firm or something, so that's out of teh question. I guess "my husband" is the most comfortabl term.