Caber doing NOTHING....

[Ross]

that article is some scary shit, and I started taking cabaser today for tren usage.

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

The stusy uses PARKINSON'S DISEASE doages; TEN TIMES the dosages we as bodybuilders use.

At .5 mgs E3D you have little or NOTHING to be worried about.

 

[bbkingpin]

Stay away from liquid. Go with the real thing, not underground. Cabaser 4mg tabs can be got cheap. You can import a 3 month personal supply from the right exporters.

 

[Nelson Montana]

that's because dostinex does nothing for deca gyno; deca gyno is estrogen and progesterone related - for that you need LETROZOLE... again, dostinex will do nothing for deca related gyno.

This is absolutely correct.

Although there may others factors, it can only be speculation. And sorry Ross, I'm not a fan of taking something for Parkinsons disease to lower something which in most males is a non issue.

Ginsing, S-ame, mucana priens (which in itself contains L-dopa -- a concern) and Vitamin E all lower prolactin.

And even you said you wouldn't take deca. Personally, I don't know why anyone would.

 

[UFC22]

Hopefully I didn't just waste a lot of $ for nothing on this dostinex.

 

[Ross]

This is absolutely correct.

Although there may others factors, it can only be speculation. And sorry Ross, I'm not a fan of taking something for Parkinsons disease to lower something which in most males is a non issue.

Ginsing, S-ame, mucana priens (which in itself contains L-dopa -- a concern) and Vitamin E all lower prolactin.

And even you said you wouldn't take deca. Personally, I don't know why anyone would.

Saying that you won't take "something for Parkinson's Disease"(Cabergoline) is like saying you won't take something "for Breast Cancer",(Arimidex) or even better, you won't take something "that is used to STIMULATE OVULATION"(Clomid).

Nonetheless, ANY MALE will have Prolactin "issues" as long as they use DECA or TREN. They both stimulate the Progesterone receptor more than PROGESTERONE ITSELF. Ergo, they both cause MASSIVE SPIKES IN PROLACTIN, which dramatically sensitizes the HPTA, causing it to SHUTDOWN ASAP. Therefore, the use of Cabergoline while on such cycles is NECESSITATED.


Furthermore, when Estrogen and Prolactin levels become elevated they function mutually to enhance breast-tissue growth. This is why the Deca/Test stack is notorious for causing gyno, but typically either compound alone at similar dosages is less probelmatic.

Prolactin + Estrogen = Evil

Therefore, the use of Cabergoline while on such cycles is NECESSITATED.

 

[trader]

That's always bothered me about the liquid cabergoline.

One other thought, deca does aromatize to estrogen and it may be the estrogen (and not prolactin) from the deca that is the problem.

The liquid isn't water and the powder is insoluble in water for the reason it makes it ineffective BUT cabergoline is a white powder soluble in ethyl alcohol, chloroform, and N, N-dimethylformamide (DMF); slightly soluble in 0.1N hydrochloric acid; very slightly soluble in n-hexane; and insoluble in water

 

[Ross]

The liquid isn't water and the powder is insoluble in water for the reason it makes it ineffective BUT cabergoline is a white powder soluble in ethyl alcohol, chloroform, and N, N-dimethylformamide (DMF); slightly soluble in 0.1N hydrochloric acid; very slightly soluble in n-hexane; and insoluble in water

VERY SOLID POST

 

[redguru]

The liquid isn't water and the powder is insoluble in water for the reason it makes it ineffective BUT cabergoline is a white powder soluble in ethyl alcohol, chloroform, and N, N-dimethylformamide (DMF); slightly soluble in 0.1N hydrochloric acid; very slightly soluble in n-hexane; and insoluble in water

How is the powder stored prior to people making the research chemical?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Saying that you won't take "something for Parkinson's Disease"(Cabergoline) is like saying you won't take something "for Breast Cancer",(Arimidex)
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GOOD POINT -- AND I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S ALL WE HAVE. LESS IS KNOWN ABOUT CAB AND THE SIDES APPEAR TO BE GREATER AND THE NEED FOR IT SEEMS TO BE LESS. SO IT'S A JUDGEMENT CALL.



or even better, you won't take something "that is used to STIMULATE OVULATION"(Clomid).

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BUT CLOMID IS PRESCRIBED FOR THE REASON ITS USED. STILL, YOU'LL GET NO LOVE OF CLOMID FROM ME.


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Nonetheless, ANY MALE will have Prolactin "issues" as long as they use DECA or TREN.


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TO WHICH I SAY "AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH A POUND OF CURE." DECA IS AN OUTDATED DRUG IMO. THERE ARE SO MANY BETTER OPTIONS.


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Furthermore, when Estrogen and Prolactin levels become elevated they function mutually to enhance breast-tissue growth. This is why the Deca/Test stack is notorious for causing gyno, but typically either compound alone at similar dosages is less probelmatic.

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Mmmmm....DECA BY ITSELF CAN BE PRETTY NASTY


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Prolactin + Estrogen = Evil

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OR ONE COULD SAY PROG AND ESTRO -- DECA AND DROL BEING BIG CULPRITS WITH THAT. HATE THEM BOTH.

Therefore, the use of Cabergoline while on such cycles is NECESSITATED.

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[trader]

How is the powder stored prior to people making the research chemical?

You will have to ask those research companies you speak of, have no idea what they do. Start with AG guys directly or indirectly here. I'm in the huge minority here, I don't sell anything.