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Bieng big AND cut, how?

perryscoon said:
So, do the pro's switch off and on between bulkers and cutters or do they try to stay ripped all the time? And I do consider some of the bro's on this board to be pro's, even if they don't compete.
Pro's are fat until about 3 months out from Mr. O when they start to cut, its all about bulking then finally cutting at the end
 
perryscoon said:
What if all you ever did was trenbolone/test cycles? Wouldn't you stay cut all the time while getting big too?
No.

Diet dictates results not what drug you're using.
 
I think you need to come to the realization that the pictures of the pros in the magazines are either before a competition or right after. They do not with the exception of a few stay lean and ripped in the off season. It is much harder to gain new muscle and strength while on a calorie restricted diet. This equation should help
PRE-CONTEST:calorie deficient+low BF+less energy+lowered strength= lean and ripped but the perfect time to win a contest
POST-CONTEST:calorie surplus+higher BF+more energy+more strength/size= big and full but the perfect time to gain new muscle

Why do you think bodybuilding contest are mostly all around the same time in summer? So they really only diet down one time and do the shows that are all close together.
 
perryscoon said:
What if all you ever did was trenbolone/test cycles? Wouldn't you stay cut all the time while getting big too?


Every single cylce that you do you should notice someting VERY noticeable at the end of each cycle. If you're cutting you should definitely notice a very significant amount of fat loss. If you are bulking you should obviously put on some good size. It's one or the other. Decide what the purpose of your cycle is before you start, then just meet your goal at the end. Then after you recover start thinking about your next cycle and what you want to build on from there. If you are honestly looking at yourself after 12,14 or however many weeks and you don't see a big difference you don't have everything in check: Diet, Training, Rest, AAS.
 
Rage-Of-Sparta said:
I think you need to come to the realization that the pictures of the pros in the magazines are either before a competition or right after. They do not with the exception of a few stay lean and ripped in the off season. It is much harder to gain new muscle and strength while on a calorie restricted diet. This equation should help
PRE-CONTEST:calorie deficient+low BF+less energy+lowered strength= lean and ripped but the perfect time to win a contest
POST-CONTEST:calorie surplus+higher BF+more energy+more strength/size= big and full but the perfect time to gain new muscle

Why do you think bodybuilding contest are mostly all around the same time in summer? So they really only diet down one time and do the shows that are all close together.

Makes sense. You're right. All the pix I see in the muscle mags are of totally huge and ripped guys. I'd love to see some pix of some pro's in the off season. I'm just curious how different they look.
 
perryscoon said:
What if all you ever did was trenbolone/test cycles? Wouldn't you stay cut all the time while getting big too?
if all u did was take tren/test every cycle i think in about 5 years ur gonna b needing about 1 gram of tren a week lol
 
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