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Best fat burner for women?

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Sixstix

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My wife is wanting to get ready for cancun. She works her ass off on cardio and has a decent diet but cant lose the weight.
I am scared for her to try the dnp. Any sugg?
Clen?
 
First of all we don't have any info. We need to know a little about her to help you out. Is she weight lifting too? How much cardio si she doing. You say she has a decent diet what is it like. What does she eat. I would not try Clen or DNP until she has her diet and training down.

What are her stats? Age, Height, Weight, Body Fat %. This will give us some idea of where she is. How much does she want to lose? In how much time?

If you answers these questions, we might be able to help her out.

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She is 5'6 140lbs 27 yr old
She runs treadmill 30 min a day at pretty aggressive pace. She does aerobics. She has recently found out she is diabetic and if she loses the weight she may not be. The doc wants her down to 120. So she wants to lose 15 lbs in say a month or so. She is taking glucophage which is supposed to help with weight. If she gets down to 120 and the doctor clears her she can drink a few drinks in Cancun in July. She has to watch her carbs because of the diabetes. She drinks only diet drinks. She works out with me from time to time but not often.
Thank you in advance
 
try xenadrine with cardio and dieting shouldnt be a problem at at all. maybe some clen but 15lbs can be done through eca with cardio and diet
 
Does she weight train?? That is going to help boost metabolism and creat lean mass. Also is she eating small frequent meals throughout the day? Why the number of 120lbs?? I would go by her bodyfat and how she looks in the mirror, instead of trying to be a certain weight!! That is very fustrating and can be misleading. You can retain water and other variables come into play. Go by how her clothes fit, and how she looks and feels! Weight training is more important than all that aerobics and cardio. I would just do the cardio in the AM on an empty stomach 4-5 days a week, 45 minutes. Make sure she rotates her carbs and changes her diet around from time to time. Try a 2 day low, 1 day high, and consume only complex carbs, stay away from simple sugars!!
 
Thanks guys
She got the number 120 from her doc who told her if she got down to 120 she would probably not be diabetic anymore. She tried some xenadrine but it makes her ill as hell. Is adipokinetix a good idea with the norephidrine instead of the ephidrine?
 
Has she ever had her body fat measured? 140 at 5'6" is NOT that heavy unless she has pretty high body fat. A person can look thin but still have high body fat. I see these women at the gym doing nothing but endless cardio. Some are skeletal-thin, but get up close and you can actually see a layer of fat overhanging their waistbands and squishing out around their sports bras. Fat carried around the waist, as opposed to on the extremities, carries a higher risk of health problems such as diabetes and heart disease.

Many doctors never take body composition (lean mass % vs. fat %) into consideration, they just look at those height/weight charts, which are like 20 years old. This is a big disservice to their patients, since muscle weighs more than fat and muscle helps burn fat. A few take into account the newer BMI (body mass index), but even that is somewhat skewed because it's based on a bunch of calculations and assumptions, not on the actual individual.

I think it's scary that the doctor wants her to lose 15 pounds in a month. That could cause a host of other problems, not to mention slow down her metabolism even more, putting her at risk of rebounding at an even higher weight. Rapid weight loss is hard on the body (a higher percentage of muscle gets burned), hard on the heart and wrecks absolute havoc on the mind. Being diabetic throws a monkey wrench into the mix, since restricted calories and infrequent meals can put one's blood sugar on a roller coaster. Please have her be careful! For long term success, weight training (with less cardio) + a clean balanced diet is the way to go.
 
She wants to lose it quick not the doctor. She lost 5 lbs first week on the glucophage but now seems to hit a stopping point. So you think it is unhealthy to lose 15lb say before july?
 
Originally posted by Sixstix:
She wants to lose it quick not the doctor. She lost 5 lbs first week on the glucophage but now seems to hit a stopping point. So you think it is unhealthy to lose 15lb say before july?
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I never really do understand why people think
fast fat loss is unhealthy. Its called TECHNOLOGY.
Having said that:
You have several options:

1. Norephedrine stack like adipokinetix.
Less stimulative than Ephedrine.
This is probably your best bet.
Adipo-k+Glucophage should get
the ball rolling again.

2. If she's willing to try it:
AND THERE IS NOTHING DANGEROUS
ABOUT DNP IF USED CORRECTLY.
People think only the elite few use it
because its "so dangerous". That is
BS. If your responsible and use it
according to instructions, you will
get less sides than ephedrine
and a hell of a lot more fat lost.
Since she weighs 140lbs(63.5Kg)
200mg/day of DNP is optimal.
Use this article as a guideline of
how to use and combat any
potential side effects. www.mesomorphosis.com/exclusive/bachs/dnp.htm

And good luck to your wife.

Godspeed
 
Losing 15lbs by July can be accomplished with a good diet and weight training program. Can you post a sample diet of what she is eating?? Tell her not to worry about getting down to 120 or any specific weight. Her goal should be how she looks, how she feels and how her clothes are fitting her. I would go and get her bodyfat done and see where she is at. Have this done every few weeks or so to see where she is at. Stay off the SCALES!! This is so hard for women to understand and come to grips with. Does she have a good weight program now? She needs to sit down and write in a journal everything she eats, weight training, and cardio. Be specific, and write it all down. That way you can go back and look at things and maybe make changes and add or take out things from her program and see what works for her. Goodluck!
 
Labrada's Lean Body. That's what I use especially since I had my son. Evreyone thinks that I'm lying when I tell that I just had a baby boy two months ago.

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vixenvenus Does that fat burner contain caffine?My body fat is 25.5% want to use a fat burner to get it down alittle more but I can not take caffine.Thanks
 
Adipo makes me nautious at first but if you hit the weights you'll soon forget about it! Makes you sweat like crazy!
 
NYC=Norephedrine, Yohimbe HCL, Caffeine

Norephedrine is the dextro-isomer of
ephedrine. More thermogenic but less
CNS stimulation. Basically less jitters.

And no yohimbe HCL is not OTC. It is
a grey-area drug. You need to find
somebody thats sells it for "research"
(I love that word.....LOL)purposes.

Godspeed
 
Just to throw a spanner in the works, I think she should focus on her insulin insensitivity first and foremost. Body image/weight loss/ fat loss/looking HOT in cancun should all take a major back seat to this health issue. With the rare exception of genetics or old age, typeII diabetes is almost always a lifestyle problem. Lets have a scrutinizing look at her diet and what else is happening in her life that may have lead to insulin receptor desensitization!
 
Originally posted by MS:
Just to throw a spanner in the works, I think she should focus on her insulin insensitivity first and foremost. Body image/weight loss/ fat loss/looking HOT in cancun should all take a major back seat to this health issue. With the rare exception of genetics or old age, typeII diabetes is almost always a lifestyle problem. Lets have a scrutinizing look at her diet and what else is happening in her life that may have lead to insulin receptor desensitization!
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MS she's on Glucophage right now.
Maybe Glucophage+ALA simultaneously?

Godspeed
 
Damn it! I just threw away the box last night while taking out the trash. Sorry!

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Don't hate me, because I'm beautiful!
 
On the subject of fat burners, what can a person take who is also on allergy meds (Allegra) and has a family history of heart disease? (I've never had problems with heart disease myself, but my family on both sides is riddled with it.)
 
Well I can only speak from my personal experience, I can do cardio till I drop, if my diet isn't right I keep that fat. Even training for a marathon, averaging 60 miles a week, I could still hold the fat if I laxed on the diet. That blew my mind.

Is she eating 6-7 meals a day? How high and what type of carbs...especially late in the day or preworkout. At least 1 gram/ lbs of protein?

yohimibine has worked wonders for me. yet I didn't need to go to the HCl, I just used the plain nutritional supplement herbal, and got great results.
 
A couple of questions

Details:

I'm 6'0, 187 lbs, 24.5% bodyfat. I'd like to get back to around 15 to 18% at about 180 and see how I feel there. Last time I looked great but at 48 it's getting harder.

I'm doing the following routine right now, all weights to failure:

Monday - Chest, shoulders, triceps. 30 mins cardio.
Tuesday- Cardio (30)
Wednesday - Legs and butt. 15 mins cardio (I'm too worn out to do anymore after legs)
Thursday - rest
Friday - Cardio (30), back, biceps, abs.
Saturday - rest
Sunday - restart cycle.

I'm doing heavy for 3 weeks right now trying to build muscle. Then will go for two weeks light and high reps.

Diet: Here's where the problem might be. I seem to be able to eat 3 meals per day plus 2 shakes. My protein of choice is either Mahi or Salmon. Summer is coming so smoked chicken fajitas loom (made at home). No junk food except on Saturday. Protein 37%, Carbs 40%, Fat 23%. probably around 2000 to 2200 cals/day

Supplements: I can't do ephedra or a lot of caffeine for health reasons.

MethoxyPro twice a day (this was on sale yesterday).
Fish oils (1000 mg)
Evening Primrose oil (1000 mg)
B complex
C

Rest of nutrition comes from food. I've been told it's a good diet, but why do I feel like crap for a day after legs? I'm talking totally wiped.

Sasha :confused:
 
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