best back builder??

[Imnotdutch]

The most impressive back I've ever seen was on a powerlifter that competed at 198. His back was thicker than any that I've seen on any bodybuilder. Considering that I used to train at Dorian Yates's gym (you might have heard of him!) I guess that means something.

any one in this discussion over 150 pounds?

powercleans, then deads. you can't engage in an intelligent arguement with me on this. ask any one big and they'll tell you. if you think 230 is big, I'm talking 300+ big.

squatter

 

[needsize]

I think everyone is forgetting that deads don't just work the lower back, they are also great mass builders for traps, which constitute a large part of your back.

 

[Test boy]

I think everyone is forgetting that deads don't just work the lower back, they are also great mass builders for traps, which constitute a large part of your back.

Good point by needsize. My traps look bigger after 2 weeks of deads.
Funny thing though...I could swear my calves feel worked out after deads also.
Are deads the perfect lift?

 

[needsize]

Are deads the perfect lift?

If there is such thing as a perfect lift, then that's it!

 

[AMP 33]

Deads and T-bar rows because i do deads first and if i move to bent over rows my back wouldnt be able to take it

 

[ballast]

Power cleans have added the most overall mass to my back.They hit the traps,mid back and erectors equally well in my experience.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I love deadlifts... has helped my lat and back development overall, plus helped my hams and glutes, however, I am only 5'3" with typical female skeletal structure (broad hips and narrow shoulders). I have noticed that my waist has thickened (not that it was EVER narrow).

I know that when my side delts come out more (yea, yea THEY SUCK ASS) and I bring my legs up a bit, it will give the ILLUSION of a smaller waist.

My question is should I AVOID the heavy deads altogether (I warmup with 135# and work up to 225# for 5-8 reps) and opt for OTHER heavy back exersizes (bent over rows and T-bar rows, etc).... will my waist get thicker with time?

I also like pull-ups (or chins as you fellas call them).

What do you all think?

PS - I NEVER USE A BELT OR STRAPS. My lower back only hurts if I do not stretch properly between sets.

 

[Imnotdutch]

I spy somebody else looking for a good excuse not to do the hard stuff.....

I'm having problems figuring out why you want to quit deadlifting......is it because you want a small waist? In which case you will want to quit squatting too, right? (I can see you heading for those nice little pink, plastic dumb-bells right now). So you are going to end up losing lbm because you arent doing anything hard, and your waist will still look large compared to your future chicken legs.

I think you should get ur sorry ass in the squat rack so you can build some legs.....and find a way to hit side delts. As far as I can work out, your waist wont keep growing indefinitely. For instance, when I deadlifted 300lb (lol) my waist was 2 inches smaller than when I did 400lb. When I hit 500lb my waist had grown by a massive 1/2 inch. It hasnt grown since then. I've seen similar things happen to many powerlifters and bodybuilders (if you talk about those that didnt like hGH). I think the initial thickening that happens is just because your body is totally new to it......after that it settles down and things happen more slowly.

Thats my 2c.....it probably makes no sense whatsoever considering I'm tired and not thinking straight but its still my opinion!!

I love deadlifts... has helped my lat and back development overall, plus helped my hams and glutes, however, I am only 5'3" with typical female skeletal structure (broad hips and narrow shoulders). I have noticed that my waist has thickened (not that it was EVER narrow).

I know that when my side delts come out more (yea, yea THEY SUCK ASS) and I bring my legs up a bit, it will give the ILLUSION of a smaller waist.

My question is should I AVOID the heavy deads altogether (I warmup with 135# and work up to 225# for 5-8 reps) and opt for OTHER heavy back exersizes (bent over rows and T-bar rows, etc).... will my waist get thicker with time?

I also like pull-ups (or chins as you fellas call them).

What do you all think?

PS - I NEVER USE A BELT OR STRAPS. My lower back only hurts if I do not stretch properly between sets.

 

[Welsh power house]

the reason i asked is because i am doing deads on one day and rows on anotherfor my two day split) and am considering just doing the same lift twice...i think that deads are by far a better total bodyexercise but dont know for hitting the lats.

I dont really care about definition at the moment, at 165lbs, i dont think there is any point.....when i get over 190, then maybe but for now, i will continue to try and add size.

thanx guys for the posts, keep them coming!

 

[Bikini Mod]

IMNOTDUTCH - SHUT THE FUCK UP! hehehehehee


I LOVE deadlifting to pieces!! I am quite proficient (can outlift A LOT of the guys at my gym which gives me a TREMENDOUS amount of pleasure - LOL!) at it.

It is just that a boxy-looking chick AIN'T COOL.... I have never had a small waist and it has gotten an inch thicker... my lats have grown TREMENDOUSLY because of the deads - it is just I guess maybe I am "wigging". I have seen A LOT of boxy looking female bbers and I just don't want to be one of them.

I have been hammering my shoulder with a vengeance for over two years and yes, they are slowly but surely progressing... I guess that I just want it NOW, hehehehehhe

And I had given up hard-earned size on my legz TWICE this year (divorce bullshit affected my training, eating, etc).

Fitness Chick and Iron God have finally talked me into competing again in April of 2002. I was not ready for it before, but now I am up to it mentally. I really want to do well and I just don't want to continue heavy movements that I am good at, at the cost of the aesthetics of my physique.... does that make any sense?

I have been doing bullshit namby-pamby workouts since March of this year... barely holding on to some semblence of a physique, but all in all considering what I have been through this year, I think I did "ok"..... "ok" is not enough to compete though. I want 1st in my division - HANDS DOWN and I want the overall. I know that it is a lofty aspiration, but I want my girls to see that I am ok and that I can win DESPITE how I have been humiliated and torn down.

So now, no more excuses.... I want my physique to be as aesthetically pleasing as I can make it.

I WANT TO WIN.

ok, ok... I am off the fucking soapbox.

PS - Welshpowerhouse I am sorry if I detracted from your thread in any way... I apologize.