BB Military Press ......

[njlw226]

im doing the 5x5 routine and my main exercise for shoulder day is the bb military press. whats best for size gains, behind the neck, or front??? thanks.

 

[Destroyer1986*]

Id say front because behind the neck puts too much strain on the shoulders.

 

[chewyxrage]

yes definately do front.

behind the neck is just asking to kill your rotator cuffs

 

[p0ink]

i've heard so many people say shit about behind the neck presses killing your rotators, and i don't believe it. me and my buddies have been doing them for years, and we never had any issues with our shoulders/rotators at all.

any exercise could be dangerous if you are using shitty form.

me? i prefer to do behind the neck presses versus front presses.

 

[chewyxrage]

don't know why but for me personally it gives me more joint pain.

i get joint pain from both though...but not as bad from the front

i use strict form so I'm not sure why....I think i may taking it down to low or something

 

[needsize]

behind the neck doesnt do anything that front doesnt do, except shorten the range of motion.
I talked to a surgeon about this, and he was quite adament that the shoulders werent designed to bear heavy weight behind the neck. You may get away with it, but why take the risk

 

[awnyerneas]

so what do you recomend for a 5x5 exercise for it needsize?

 

[TrevMill]

I hurt my shoulders doing behind the neck. I'll never recommend that ANYONE do behind the neck presses.

 

[cwick0]

shouldnt matter. Although, front military will hit your upper pecs a little.

I hit behind the neck, however, i wont go past 90 degrees. So the bar actually touches the lower crown area of my head. The deepness of the bar will depend on your grip. I go rather wide, so i hit 90 on my arms at the back of the crown area of my head.

 

[needsize]

so what do you recomend for a 5x5 exercise for it needsize?

military to the front would be my suggestion

 

[xevius]

Front for sure.

 

[majutsu]

Front is good. Back increases shoulder separation injury chances and doesn't add anything, so why do it? I actually do so-called push presses for maximum mass (ala lou ferrigno, pearl, etc old school), meaning you do military presses to the front but standing. Because you can push with your legs, you can usually move much more weight strictly and can also force out 2 extra reps cheating with a leg drive at the end of the set. This represents an extra little oomph for shoulders over time. The drawback is that push presses are compounds like squats, deads and bench, so this can really increase your cortisol and lead to overtraining quickly. Strict seated presses involve the whole system much less. Other than that caveat, I love push presses. I alternate those with seated front presses 8 weeks each, and even small 2 week stints of behind neck presses (usually machine) for variety.

 

[d3track]

not much of a fan of behind the neck
i didnt get much out of them either

when i switched to front presses, i made gains

and maj, i like the push presses too

 

[PoonRaider]

Military presses (and other exercises where you lift weight up over your head from a sitting or standing position) are one of the most destructive exercises you can do. My father who is an orthopedic surgeon tells me that it creates tremendous stress on the vertebrae of the neck, and can create arthritis in your neck and shoulders if you do this exercise for long periods of time. I would highly suggest not doing it. There are lots of other shoulder exercises.

 

[d3track]

Military presses (and other exercises where you lift weight up over your head from a sitting or standing position) are one of the most destructive exercises you can do. My father who is an orthopedic surgeon tells me that it creates tremendous stress on the vertebrae of the neck, and can create arthritis in your neck and shoulders if you do this exercise for long periods of time. I would highly suggest not doing it. There are lots of other shoulder exercises.

in other words

front military presses

 

[PoonRaider]

Uhh. . . I wasn't aware there were more than 1 type of military press. Any exercise where you lift weight up over your head is generally a no-no, at least if you want to have a healthy neck and shoulders when you're an old man.

 

[d3track]

Uhh. . . I wasn't aware there were more than 1 type of military press. Any exercise where you lift weight up over your head is generally a no-no, at least if you want to have a healthy neck and shoulders when you're an old man.

again you have shown how all knowlegable you are