Arnis (Filipino stick fighting) Another Bad Ass MA?

[Big Rick Rock]

I have seen Arnis before but had no idea is was so huge. There where some guys that use to get together in Central park every weekend during the summer and run a Stick Fighting sparring club. They would gear up in protective pads and go all out full contact. Now I've been learning it is a real MA complete with belt system, theory and even some emptyhand strikes and kicks all of which incorporate stick work (some of the techniques work empty handed too.

Any of you guys familiar with it?

 

[liftshard]

Arnis de Mano or Modern Arnis?

 

[DANABOLIC55]

Yes. It was actually my first filipino MA. It is very small circle jiu jitsu like. Oh....I'm talking about Modern Arnis- I just remembered the thread title. I prefer Kali to any FMA I've done. I actually prefer Paul Vunak's Progressive Fighting Systems' (kali based) stick & knife work to anything. It's soooo simple and practical. But, without my first base of Modern Arnis, the PFS stick stuff wouldn't have come so easy.
check out http://www.fighting.net for Vunak's stuff. I'm an apprentice inst. under him- he's bad-ass.
Rock....are you thinkin about doin some sticks???? The FMA's will change the way you look at martial arts. There are literally thousands of different styles of FMA's. But, they are all VERY similar.

 

[digger]

Man, there ain't no eyeopener like seeing what an arnis guy does to a TKD fool who tries an X-arm block.... "You say you want me to cut both your wrists with one slice? Okay!"

Never forget that Man is the tool-using animal. Fighting empty-handed (karate) is for desperate people in a desperate situation.

There was an outfit back in the '70s who made a really sweet "gentleman's walking stick." No hidden sword blade, no James Bond bullshit; just a beautiful piece of hardwood and a heavy brass knob. You could whip that tip up as though it were weightless.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Yes. It was actually my first filipino MA. It is very small circle jiu jitsu like. Oh....I'm talking about Modern Arnis- I just remembered the thread title. I prefer Kali to any FMA I've done. I actually prefer Paul Vunak's Progressive Fighting Systems' (kali based) stick & knife work to anything. It's soooo simple and practical. But, without my first base of Modern Arnis, the PFS stick stuff wouldn't have come so easy.
check out http://www.fighting.net for Vunak's stuff. I'm an apprentice inst. under him- he's bad-ass.
Rock....are you thinkin about doin some sticks???? The FMA's will change the way you look at martial arts. There are literally thousands of different styles of FMA's. But, they are all VERY similar.

I'm eager to learn Sticks, problem is I'm very short on time right now, between work, family, Wrestling, Weight training and Muay Thai my week is full. I'm hoping to shuffle some stuff around in the coming months to fit in BJJ and hopefully a couple of hours per week of stick work.

 

[Becoming]

that is some cool shit for sure...

 

[hub5326]

I had a friend who was very proficient in Kali. We practiced with blunt practice knives or sticks and the basic principle he taught was to make as many cuts as possible and then back off to let your opponet bleed out. I don't remember the times but they were something like a couple of minutes for wrist or arm vein cuts, where famoral or jugular were like 30 seconds or less. It's a blast to learn, and without a doubt the most effective knife technique I have ever trained in. I you are ever up against anyone who is proficient in the art run away or use the 21' rule and shoot to kill...
hub5326

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I had a friend who was very proficient in Kali. We practiced with blunt practice knives or sticks and the basic principle he taught was to make as many cuts as possible and then back off to let your opponet bleed out. I don't remember the times but they were something like a couple of minutes for wrist or arm vein cuts, where famoral or jugular were like 30 seconds or less. It's a blast to learn, and without a doubt the most effective knife technique I have ever trained in. I you are ever up against anyone who is proficient in the art run away or use the 21' rule and shoot to kill...
hub5326

Kali,Arnis,Skrima has been tried and true, used effectively in battle. First against the spaniards whom were forced to outlaw the practice of Kali after losing many men trying to take over the Philipines(thats when sticks were adopted to practice since blades were outlawed by the spaniards... It didn't work too well since the Philipines grows some hard woods able to split metal helmets right open)
Many many years later against the U.S.A. the term "leather neck" actually came from the Leather neck protectors the GIs wore during their incursions into the Philipines, the Philipino warriors were notorious for cutting heads right off using blades and Kali skills... The Army also adoped the use of the 45cal since the 38s just werent doing the trick against those guys.

 

[digger]

The Army also adoped the use of the 45cal since the 38s just werent doing the trick against those guys.

Yep. The old Army .38 was roughly a .38 S&W (.38 S&W is to a .38 Spl as a .38 Spl is to a .357 Mag); with military rounds I'd say it was about as effective as an icepick.

An escrima guy will almost always have a serious bracelet of some kind on both wrists to act as a knife guard, and if he knows he's going in harm's way he may even have tourniquets looped and ready to tighten on all four limbs so he can stay in the fight longer.

They deserve better than they've gotten from the rest of the world, the USA included.

 

[ripped2shreds2004]

Arnis and Escrima are great...I use the stick fighting alot while working...