Are you one of those hardores that gives idiotic advice?Or one that gives none at all

[MrSkinny]

To whom it may concern
I wish that people would be use more caution when giving advice sometimes. At other times I wish that people would give more advice. I guess I've got two problems with the site at times.
There are guys that have been on the site for a long time and are know everything there is to know about gear. Including it's side effects on the human body!
In the past I've posted a question and gotten no responses. Why is this! People sit on this site all day long and surf through the posts. Alot of guys don't seem to give a shit a newbies and care only about the hardcore. From a different end of the spectrum I see guys give hardcore advice to novice uses. This is also crazy.
Some people jump into juice (especially the younger generation) and don't go about it the wrong way. They come here talking, d-bols, a-boms, fina and whatever else it is that they want to take. These are not substances for a beginner in my eyes. A novice can get away with a stand alone deca cycle with MINIMAL sides and get great results.
My first cycle was bought directly from a pharmacy in Texas. Deca Durabolin (3200mg total) Stanazol (12-14mg per day total) I've got to say that taking a large dose of deca was crazy. Lucky I didn't get progesterone sides. At the time I was 23 (four years ago) I got the advice of some numbnuts in the gym. He was a hardcore guy. He actually suggested I take 50mg per day of Winny tabs. Anyone knows that if you have virgin receptors you don't have to over load them with tons of shit. Anyways I gained 25lbs and was lucky. No real sides. It's a good thing, cause I didn't know about clomid,HCG, anti-E's. and the over the counter liver protection like cranberry extract and milk thistle. Of course I wasn't told to drink alot of water to flush my system either.
I think his exact words were. Shoot it in your ass(pointing in a general location in my Hiney) this day and this day and eat everything you can get your hands on. GREAT ADVICE DUMMY
Sorry to have this drag on, but if we're going to be a part of a site that is intended for the general public
A) Let's not turn a blind eye when someone is asking questions about someone that could ultimately fuck up there body for good (I'm talking about (GH, Fina, thyroid activators,a-domb,d-bols and any other shit that probably should be used by people that have many many cycles under there belts.)
B) Let's realize that there are many forms of AS use. There are also many reasons why people taek them. I've seen people take them to be huge and intimidating(what a dumb reason, eat a lot of bacon and turn into a fatass. You'll still be big) Also people that use them casually.IE the spring breakersguys getting ready for the summer. And finally the finatics, you know who you are. Cycle after cycle after cycle. Harcore guys! Remember to each his own and people should be sure of the person they are giving advice to and what type of user they are.
The thing that sparked this email is a friend that is a memeber at this site. She is a healthy girl, she experimented with AS and had great results. Whoever told her her dosing on T3 was a real fuck-up because now her thyroid is fucked and it's not coming back. Oh well, she made her own decision.
I'm not saying I'm a saint and I'm not saying I'm perfect, but I am saying be careful and help out the guys that need helping in a proper fashion.

 

[gimp]

I agree skinny,

when answering I always make it a point to say " in my experience".
I've only done a few cycles, but, I only post what I experienced on them, not what I've read on other posts. However, I use info from this board as a 2nd or 3rd opinion ONLY. I get advice from guys I know, and just double check things here. I am aware that not everybody has that luxury, but, I think that if you're going to take drugs that are potentially harmful, it's best to get advice from plenty of sources and not just from a chat board.

 

[Hacker]

As a novice, most of your questions have been asked here a thousand times. Typically, that's why you won't get a response. Use the search function. It's truly an amazing tool if you use it.

For specific questions that you can't find or get response to, just PM a mod or a vet. Couldn't hurt; right?

 

[JayBro]

Most of the time when people give advice they think they are helping, they think that they are correct, they ARE trying to help. Thats why you do RESEARCH to compare advice and info and disregard what is inconsistant. Research should never be limited to message baords. There is tons of info on the net in articles and steroid profiles for self education purposes.

On the subject of Wistrol, I have never read anything published that recommends anything less that 50 mg's a day, at best 50 mgs every other day, but I would not translate that into 12 1/2 mgs a day if you choose the EOD option. Its 50 mgs per dose either every day or EOD...so that was not bad advice...there is no begginer dose's only efective dose's.

And now your saying to "newbies" that a stand alone Deca cycle is good when the best advice IMO is to tell newbies to use TEST to avoid Deca dick.

I understand that Deca can be used alone and often is, but to follow your post and practice what you preach I would not ever advise a first time user to run Deca alone, Test alone..Yeah

Oh yea, and what Hacker said...I agree.

Not a flame, just my 2cent

 

[lonewulf]

You should do some research for yourself before taking performance enhancing drugs! Why the hell you would put something into your body that you dont know EXACTLY how it works i cant understand. Do your homework, most of the bros on here are VERY knowledgable. It actually suprises me sometimes. Use the search engine and gain at least some knowledge about these drugs before you use them. The mods are here to help, and most of the bros on here are here to help too. If you think it is this board is making using anabolics dangerous you should try using them without this board! I dont agree with anyone trashing this board, i think it is a fountain of information and should be treated with respect!-WULF

 

[buffdoc]

To me, the purpose of boards like this and conversations with any one individual, is to spark my own curiosity, and my desire for more answers, leading to more questions, further answers, etc.
The end result is a consensus of opinion, which is built up over time, and also, confirmatory information. And more confirmation. And more confirmation. This is how we SHOULD gain information.
Everything we read on the internet, including this board and others like it, should be taken with a grain of salt.
I can't imagine starting a cycle such as you describe, based on what one joker at the gym told me to take, and how to take it.
Not to flame you, but we are all responsible adults, not victims. Yes, bad things happen sometimes, but more often than not, they involve a degree of denial, lack of attention to specific advice and/or details, and plain old stupidity.
Nobody on this board can "fuck me up." But I can if I behave foolishly, act rashly, and am not accountable for my actions.
I did an awful lot of post-reading, search engine using, and comparing before ever posting on this or any other board. That helps in getting reasonable answers to reasonable questions.
Above ALL else, remember: advice is just that, and opinions are just that. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[lonewulf]

I agree buffdoc, everyone is always looking for someone to blame.....when the accountablility is on themselves.-WULF

 

[MrSkinny]

I guess you're rigth about acountability. It's just I see someone that is in there teens asking for advice on AS a kid. Do they have any less sense than someone that is say...27 taking their first cycle? I would say yes, but maybe I'm wrong.
As for the test issue. I don't like teste and at this point after doing many different cycles. Some very hard and some very mild. Deca is by far a steroid with very little sides. As for the deca dick, (even if someone gets it, it may save you frojm catching a case or two so looking at it from the brighter side)
I took deca and never really got Deca dick as far as I can remember. I did have problems with Fina though, big problems. HCG, cleared that up real quick.
Test is also TERRIBLE when it comes to retaining your gains. A anyone with a not so good genetic make-up gets puffy from water retention. That's not a look that many young people desire who are "casual" users per say.
As for the winstrol dosing. It wasn't a dose I was suggesting just the dose that I could afford. I had a script and you wouldn't believe how much Deca, and stanozol is from a US pharmacy. The combination was my first cycle and it seems that the combo worked synergistically with a GREAT result. I really was a meathead after that. I was too big for my own liking. 6'2 230 lbs. This was at 22 years old. I was probably small by some of your standards b, but beauty is always in the eyes of the beholder.
I had no sides whatsoever. I ran a very high deca dose and am surprised that I had no prog. sides. Lucky I guess. In a nutshell, I'm not trashing this board for I've spend many many many dozens of hours researching topics. I was venting and taking a couple of posts that I have read to heart and using it as a generalization.
I made a statement about someone who simply got bad advice about T3 now has a ruined thyroid. They should have done a search, but speaking from exp. first timers on the site really don't always have a grasp as to what the sit can do and how to even search. At first I wqsa so hooked on reading the posts that I didn't realize how to research. After my friend showed me it opened a whole now set of doors.

 

[Mike P.T.]

I guess you're rigth about acountability. It's just I see someone that is in there teens asking for advice on AS a kid. Do they have any less sense than someone that is say...27 taking their first cycle? I would say yes, but maybe I'm wrong.
As for the test issue. I don't like teste and at this point after doing many different cycles. Some very hard and some very mild. Deca is by far a steroid with very little sides. As for the deca dick, (even if someone gets it, it may save you frojm catching a case or two so looking at it from the brighter side)
I took deca and never really got Deca dick as far as I can remember. I did have problems with Fina though, big problems. HCG, cleared that up real quick.
Test is also TERRIBLE when it comes to retaining your gains. A anyone with a not so good genetic make-up gets puffy from water retention. That's not a look that many young people desire who are "casual" users per say.
As for the winstrol dosing. It wasn't a dose I was suggesting just the dose that I could afford. I had a script and you wouldn't believe how much Deca, and stanozol is from a US pharmacy. The combination was my first cycle and it seems that the combo worked synergistically with a GREAT result. I really was a meathead after that. I was too big for my own liking. 6'2 230 lbs. This was at 22 years old. I was probably small by some of your standards b, but beauty is always in the eyes of the beholder.
I had no sides whatsoever. I ran a very high deca dose and am surprised that I had no prog. sides. Lucky I guess. In a nutshell, I'm not trashing this board for I've spend many many many dozens of hours researching topics. I was venting and taking a couple of posts that I have read to heart and using it as a generalization.
I made a statement about someone who simply got bad advice about T3 now has a ruined thyroid. They should have done a search, but speaking from exp. first timers on the site really don't always have a grasp as to what the sit can do and how to even search. At first I wqsa so hooked on reading the posts that I didn't realize how to research. After my friend showed me it opened a whole now set of doors.

Good post but as far as saying that "Test is terrible when it come to retaining gains" I would have to disagree. Everyone is different and depenging on doseages, genetics, as well as length and proper post cycle recovery methods you can actually retain most of your test gains. I know I did. Deca on the other hand I don't recover as well post cycle as I do with test and people have reported this as well. Probably due to it being progesterone-like. Either way everyone is different and can only give general advice coming from personal experience, anecdotal evidence, and scientific facts. Still nothing will ever come out perfect as each individual is different.

 

[cfh]

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I totally agree with Wulf on this ,If your new to body enhancing drugs.You should do research for yourself.You shouldn't just be lazy and expect the answers to be given to you.A lot of the old builders see the same questions day after day ,month after month.It gets old answering the same thing time after time.I'm not saying that they aren't willing to help,but you've got to be willing to do you're homework also.Shit if you're putting something in your body you should know the effects ,dosage ,side effects ,and safety of it's use.If you're not willing to do some research on your own you shouldn't even be messing with it.Stay Safe.Cowboy