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Are You NATURAL Or Using ANABOLICS?

Are Your Muscles From ANABOLICS?

  • NATURAL (never touched an anabolic, or used anything illegal that couldnt be found at a healthfood s

    Votes: 84 70.0%

  • ANABOLIC USER (use natural supplements and have used / currently using illegal steroids before)

    Votes: 34 28.3%
  • Total voters
    120
Natural all the way! Except ECA, HMB, creatine, ecdysterone, Insulene, ALA, 400g of protein a day, 1-AD, norephedrine, ZMA, yohimbe...maybe I should just shut up. I'm no fan of steriods but as many people say "nothing about bodybuilding is natural."
 
Hey..i don't get it....the sleep poll is up 2 hrs after this poll and it has 10 times as many views....hmmmm....looks like all the poeple on the gear are in the closet..

? maybe ?
 
I´ve used deca and d-bols but I only do 2 cycles/year at low doses and I grow faster than Oprah Winfrey in a candystore :)
 
Bros,I am from India.Here we don't get gear and stuff.We don't even get creatine(ok we get Weider's shit).So I am natural all the way.:)
 
I don't use steroids, although I did use them for three weeks way back when I was 19.The good news was I gained 16 pounds,looked ripped and had an attitude to match.The bad news was I didn't even know what type of steroid I was given.You went to this guys house, slipped him 20 bucks and he stuck a syringe in your ass cheek.I got good results but after I heard about the shrinking nuts theory, I dropped them.I'd rather have my cock the way it is.I lost all 16 pounds as soon as I stopped taking them.Never thought about taking them again and doubt I ever will.
 
Natural till this August, now have done one cycle, now I'm hooked and want to try and compete locally so a few more are in my future.
 
I was on and now that I am off I am l wishing I was still on. I miss being on gear. The sex, the strength, the muscles man I hate being natural. I won't be natural in 6 more weeks though. :D

GEAR RULES!
 
gear

It is just an illusion being addicted to gear. I have taken gear and I am not addicted to it, I don't have to have it to continue on with my daily life. It just shows that if you are addicted to gear, you are weaked willed. Not to offend anyone on the board or anything. :) I have done a cycle and plan on doing one more, and I will be happy after my 2nd cycle. I will be done and will not touch another steroid for the rest of my life. At that point I will have other things to worry about (marriage, a kid, ect.).

barnes3
 
I've done two cycles and the results were fine but not spectacular. It is harder to build mass on 6' 5" for most people.
I'm going to go natural for a while and expect to make some further gains though at a slower rate.
I'll do a 12 week cycle that ends with Spring Break...I want to have a lot of fun on the beach.
I could quit easily then but I bought in volume and have a supply.
Too risky to sell it so I'll use it myself.:D
Nut shrinkage happens but they bounce back after a couple weeks if your cycle was of normal length: 8-12 weeks. Guys mess up their nuts by staying on cycle for long periods. A lot of competitors never go off. Then their nuts don't work after a while.
Stupid yes...maybe we don't want someone that stupid to contribute to our gene pool.
 
MonStar1023 said:
I dont get it what's so great about gear how in the world do you all *miss* being on the gear?

:confused::confused:
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SEX:Well see I am in my late 30s and testosterone is one of the best sex compounds there is. So I get hard like when I was 18 and I screwed for hours and I was always horny.

STRENGTH: You can lift heavier quickly once the test gets in your system. It is cool doing heavier weight and passing up natural dudes like there is no tomorrow.

MUSCLES: When you see your frame take a dramatic increase in size in 8 weeks that would take you over a year or longer naturally is a heck of a rush to.

Btw I am not addicted to gear. I plan my cycles very carefully and never plan on doing more than 2 cycles a year. But it is fun being on.
 
MonStar1023 said:
I dont get it what's so great about gear how in the world do you all *miss* being on the gear?

:confused::confused:
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It's hard to explain. But whenever people stop to watch you do a set, it's not a bad feeling. Most of the time you feel like you can take on the world...
 
It's hard to explain. But whenever people stop to watch you do a set, it's not a bad feeling. Most of the time you feel like you can take on the world...
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You take gear so people will watch you work out?

People watch me do sets all the time and I've never touched the stuff....
 
Just go super intense and superset everything and people will watch you...lol Not that it matters...but i respect a good strong effort more than anything in the gym not just big weights.
 
Fuck. I knew it. So much for my brilliant viagra/geritol stack. Had such high hopes. Back to the drawing board.

Oh, and one more thing Tiny B - you may kiss my ass. :kiss:
 
Natural.... and since I can't afford it, I barely use supplements. Maybe a tub of protein powder once or twice a year when I feel like indulging.
 
DaCypher said:


You take gear so people will watch you work out?

People watch me do sets all the time and I've never touched the stuff....
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I don't think you get my point. The point was the amount of power and well being you feel, and not actually the people watching you. Most of the time anyway I train late night or mid-afternoon when hardly anyone's in the gym. It's hard to explain. I'm not sure of your stance on AS use, but I'm an advocate. I know I'd never go back to being all natural. Although I don't knock anyone for choosing to stay natural. It seems that most of the time that the natural bodybuilders are the one who sling the most shit though...
 
you know what they say

"drugs are for recreational purposes only"
and thats how i use them
i think it helps your mind and your body as long as your smart
 
It's all relative! To juice or not to juice! It matters not! For we all are brothers of iron!


peace bro
bass

BTW.....natural for 37 1/2 years... but no more
 
basskiller said:
It's all relative! To juice or not to juice! It matters not! For we all are brothers of iron!


peace bro
bass

BTW.....natural for 37 1/2 years... but no more
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Couldnt of said it better myself. I dont see the big controversy. I am natural but can you really consider me natural when I use over the counter supplements which I do not use all that much of but still use them. I lift with two others for legs shoulders and back during the week they are 3 cycle a year guys. We get along just fine and I keep up with them on all lifts especially shoulders. If you would put in the pound for pound equation I am stronger on most lifts. The difference is I pay far more attention to my diet and sleep habits than they do. Now I know one freak who is just as attentive as I am to those two factors and uses gear. He is a complete monster. Do I hold it against him no. He does it by his own free will and does it the right way. Just cause I dont use he doesnt give me shit why should I give him shit for using. As a matter a fact he often asks my advice and gives me praise.

I have seen gear users that treat smaller guys like shit which is wrong. I have also seen natural guys treat smaller guys like shit which is still wrong. The point being to each his own and treat each other with respect in the gym. There is always someone bigger and stronger that may just walk in your gym and treat you like shit if you treat others that way and that is true Karma.
 
Abbaddon said:


Couldnt of said it better myself. I dont see the big controversy. I am natural but can you really consider me natural when I use over the counter supplements which I do not use all that much of but still use them. I lift with two others for legs shoulders and back during the week they are 3 cycle a year guys. We get along just fine and I keep up with them on all lifts especially shoulders. If you would put in the pound for pound equation I am stronger on most lifts. The difference is I pay far more attention to my diet and sleep habits than they do. Now I know one freak who is just as attentive as I am to those two factors and uses gear. He is a complete monster. Do I hold it against him no. He does it by his own free will and does it the right way. Just cause I dont use he doesnt give me shit why should I give him shit for using. As a matter a fact he often asks my advice and gives me praise.

I have seen gear users that treat smaller guys like shit which is wrong. I have also seen natural guys treat smaller guys like shit which is still wrong. The point being to each his own and treat each other with respect in the gym. There is always someone bigger and stronger that may just walk in your gym and treat you like shit if you treat others that way and that is true Karma.
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EXcellent andwell said, as one of the bigger guys, i often turn to those that are smaller than me for advise, not the lazy kids, size really doesnt matter, its intensity and results.... good karma for you Abbaddon
 
Your stack was a pretty good idea Gymtime:D :D

The poll's at 65% natural. Does that suprise anyone else? Are some people just keeping quiet?:confused:
 
Natural here. When I get a little older, and maybe get a little cash in my pocket, that might change.
 
Truthugs said:
Natural. Plan to take juice once I figure out how to get my hands on it.
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I am natural right now but plan on going on an anvar only cycle once i get my hands on it
i won't touch anything else until i'm at lest 23
 
Dont worry monstar, many of use are still young. Give us some time and we will all be on the salsa.
 
MonStar1023 said:
I am defintely glad to see that the natural % is towering over the anabolic %.

:D:D
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Don't worry. You'll end up converting. I was proud to be natural at one time also. There's nothing wrong with that. But like they say, "once you go black, you never go back"... :D
 
I'm Natural and have been for all the years I've worked out and I will continue down the path of "Natural". However, I don't have much problem with those who want to use "Steroids". Since Bodybuilding is about building a Great Physique and Putting on Mass, I don't see a problem there. What does IRK me is when some Bodybuilder who's been using "Steroids", tries to inform some naive beginner that he has this weightlifting routine that really packs on the muscle and he also eats alot of protein (like peanut butter) and that's it,.....that's how he's getting big. I know some products are illegal and it's probably not smart to tell people your using but don't go around decieving people either. Personally I think steroids should be legal and the consumer informed about there risk,...after that, it's up to the buyer, but we all know how intrusive the Govt. can be in our desire to make Personal Choices.
 
juicer

"Don't worry. You'll end up converting. I was proud to be natural at one time also".

Ditto!!!!!! Just used AAS for the first time about 13 weeks ago and damn I got big and strong quick. I used finasol. I think its becoming the gateway drug of AAS. Poking next time though.
 
NATURAL all the way......many people may take the gear and enjoy good gains but im a fan of the old school method of gaining...........Training hard and eating alot!

No offense to those on the gear...its just i like the massive challenge of being natural!!
 
MonStar1023 said:
I probably wont ever use Anabolics.. I dont think.

:D:D
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As young as most of these guys on this board are, I think they should wait! But I'm not against starting. Just get as much info as humanly possible about it first!


MonStar, it's cool that you feel this way and I hope that you will achieve all that you can naturally!
bass
 
natural.
Not anti-gear, just being a cheapass. Creatine and being focused broke my last plateau a few months ago, so as long as my lifts keep going up I don't feel like I need it yet.
 
MonStar1023 said:
I probably wont ever use Anabolics.. I dont think.

:D:D
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Ahhh. I remember uttering those very words. Brings a tear to my eyes. Those were the days... :bawling: ;)
 
Natural - or should I say "over-the-counter unnatural" or "legally unnatural" since I do use prohormones, etc.

Have nothing against gear users - if it wasn't for the legal issues (or if I had a 100% trustworthy source) I'd probably juice myself. I suspect a lot of the naturals on the board feel the same way. I work in a highly regulated industry, and an arrest by itself - even with no conviction - would probably end my career. I do admit I wish I'd tried back in college - had the contacts and back then the law was a lot more lax. Still consider it sometimes (Fina, at least, since purchase/simple possession is legal) but I'll see if I can hit my goals without it first.
 
Daeo said:


Ahhh. I remember uttering those very words. Brings a tear to my eyes. Those were the days... :bawling: ;)
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i think everyone thats juices (including me) has said "i dont think i'l ever juice"

the word natural is an oxymoron anyway,,if u guys think that 1-ad and andro are natural then you are mistaken(they are just crap legal versions of wanna be steriods)

just because its legal doesnt mean its natural,,,i just view gear as "illegal supplements",but either way you aint getting shit if your not working hard and eating right
 
macDbol said:


i think everyone thats juices (including me) has said "i dont think i'l ever juice"

the word natural is an oxymoron anyway,,if u guys think that 1-ad and andro are natural then you are mistaken(they are just crap legal versions of wanna be steriods)

just because its legal doesnt mean its natural,,,i just view gear as "illegal supplements",but either way you aint getting shit if your not working hard and eating right
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If you can't beat them, join them... :D
 
Re: gear

barnes3 said:
It is just an illusion being addicted to gear. I have taken gear and I am not addicted to it, I don't have to have it to continue on with my daily life. It just shows that if you are addicted to gear, you are weaked willed. Not to offend anyone on the board or anything. :) I have done a cycle and plan on doing one more, and I will be happy after my 2nd cycle. I will be done and will not touch another steroid for the rest of my life. At that point I will have other things to worry about (marriage, a kid, ect.).

barnes3
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Being big is fun, but if your are older and in the business world and have to wear suits and go to meetings you kind of feel very self conscience. Suits do not look good on bulky muscle guys and its hard for others to look at you seriously. It is at this point in your life where being a freak suddenly is not so desirable. Yet despite this, i still do things to make me retain size. Guess I am addicted
 
Blood&Iron said:
Natural all the way! Except ECA, HMB, creatine, ecdysterone, Insulene, ALA, 400g of protein a day, 1-AD, norephedrine, ZMA, yohimbe...maybe I should just shut up. I'm no fan of steriods but as many people say "nothing about bodybuilding is natural."
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Do yourself a favor and drop the HMB, ecdy, insulene, and ALA -- it's a waste of money

As for the question at hand... i will be natural for the next month before i go on an anavar only cycle in January
 
Disclaimer- You can't find me so just give me some harsh e-mail or something. I think steroids are for the weak willed who don't have the guts or nuts to go at it naturally, which takes a lot of dedication, patience, and real strength, not one that comes from a needle, bottle, pill, ect. That's just my opinion though, all you juicers are cool with me.:fro:
 
erickthegreat11 said:
Disclaimer- You can't find me so just give me some harsh e-mail or something. I think steroids are for the weak willed who don't have the guts or nuts to go at it naturally, which takes a lot of dedication, patience, and real strength, not one that comes from a needle, bottle, pill, ect. That's just my opinion though, all you juicers are cool with me.:fro:
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that's great to know
what are the dedicated supposed to do when they have reached their natural potential?
not being able to reach new goals suck, when there is no way out, i don't see any problem as use.
What about taking AS bothers you? Lets say my test levels are naturally 300 and yours are natualy 800. What would you think about me wanting to have equal natural test levels as yourself? Not everyone is created equal, so, with moderate AS use, people have a more equal chance.
Personally, i have never done AS. BUt once i know i have reached my natural potential, i will have no proble using it.
 
I am training natural right now, I haven't used gear since 1989. I think that gear does have a place in the sport but too many people turn to it's use before trying to reach their genectic potential training natural. I lurk at many sites and I read about people training several years (2-3) then turning to gear. What a joke ! Train for 5-10 years hard, count calories and put 110% effort then if all else fails try gear. Anyone that thinks using gear (over a extended period of time ) doesn't have negative physchological effects on a large percentage of people hasn't done any real research on the topic on been engaged in the sport long enough.
 
at he moment natural. was gonna go on a bulk cycle this winter but decided to do it natural again til spring. as of this date i have been off the anabolics for about 4 months. at 5'10 230 pounds 12 % bf im ok so at least i get to save money for other shit. GOD i miss the stuff though.
 
UnNatural, been using for two years now. On third cycle, only use low- moderate amounts. I trained hard for almost ten years before trying AS. BTW I'm in my thirties, I'm glad I waited. -john
 
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