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Anything thats in your blood gets metabolized/filtered by the liver. Test starts to get toxic after 1000mgs enanth/cyp/sust, suspension at any dose. Tren is more kidney toxic
Are injectables liver toxic ?
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TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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Ulter said:
I've taken it while on and it was the best decision I made. Poantrex is again speaking out of his
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Bigdogmikey said:
After 1000 mgs...Did you take this info out from your ass or are you just shooting it up...i call BS.
If i am wrong please post a good study and preferably studies to prove me wrong,
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PolfaJelfa said:
Call B.s. Bro how many cycles have you done, how many competitions have you entered...I'll trade pics with you. Test turns somewhat liver toxic after 1 Gram( if you dont understand its 1000mg) aka megadoses...The more thats in your blood the more that goes through your liver, your liver is a filter, more means working harder.
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Also you may want to try this book.........Welder, AA, et al. Toxic effects of anabolic-androgenic steroids in primary hepatic cell cultures. J Pharmacol Toxicol Meth (1995) 33(4):187-195.
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Bigdogmikey said:
I agree....I've put >1g in my body so I know....
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After 1000mg My liver values Alk Phosphate went up to 140 (normal range is 120-125) 50mg of D-bols for 6 weeks will bring it up to 165....Since Im in the hospital these tests can be done whenever I want....Blood tests are very important while your on Juice. All these pro's go regulary for them
Ulter said:
Ulter, I don't think you're hearing me here. I have taken accutane several times, presribed by a derm and had my cholesterol monitored monthly by the derm. The effect accutane has on lipids is not overblown - my cholesterol levels are *always* excellent yet accutane always trashes it. Several months into my current accutane course at 40mg per day, my HDL dropped 30 points as mentioned above.
Now, I know none of this is permanant - but here is my point Ulter. WHY risk not being able to take accutane? IF tical gets a bad bloodtest, his derm will pull him off. THAT will fuck him over. He may be able to run those compounds withotu any problems, but there is a chance that it will mess his lipids up too much. I've seen it happen, man. I'm not even talking about health consequences, most people taking accutane usually want to keep taking it for the full course.
Oh - and to clarify - I don't think accutane with steroids is bad unless they are naturally prone to bad acne. I was under the impression that Tical was naturally prone to acne (without gear). Now, taking accutane while using gear in that scenario would be kinda stupid. If one is naturally prone to acne, they will want to take accutane without using steroids to prevent relapse. But someone not prone to acne taking accutane as insurance...No biggie there.
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The Accuatane effect is overblown simply because the results of a lipid profile while on it is useless. Sure it mess up the test. Sure the readings are of someone who's worked at McDonalds their whole life. But in the long range prediction of CAD, which is the purpose of the test, this one episode is insignificant.
The doctor will not, at least should not, pull you off Accutane because of a lipid profile. If your liver tests are poor over a 2 month period they may pull you off but not for lipid panel results. No matter how ridiculous the lipid profile looks, like mine has at times, it is not permanent. You come off, keep a clean diet, maybe add policosanol, and you're Lance Armstrong within months.
No one I know uses Accutane who doesn't have cystic acne. I had to wash my sheets every night because they were bloodied by the acne on my back when I slept. THAT's when I turned to Accutane.
The doctor will not, at least should not, pull you off Accutane because of a lipid profile. If your liver tests are poor over a 2 month period they may pull you off but not for lipid panel results. No matter how ridiculous the lipid profile looks, like mine has at times, it is not permanent. You come off, keep a clean diet, maybe add policosanol, and you're Lance Armstrong within months.
No one I know uses Accutane who doesn't have cystic acne. I had to wash my sheets every night because they were bloodied by the acne on my back when I slept. THAT's when I turned to Accutane.
Ulter said:
Thats so gross. I've been on Accutane almost 4 months and just started up a cycle. Ulter, I'm gonna PM you and talk to you about this acctuane + gear thing if you don't mind. Ulter gives good advice as usual to the guy son the board. Don't the docs focus on your liver values for the most part? Or am I mistaken?
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