Anyone try this?

[b fold the truth]

I used to use the ABCDE program several years ago. I bulked for 3 weeks then cut for 2.

Bulk: Eat everything in sight, no cardio, heavier weights, gain 7 pounds

Cut: ONLY clean foods, cardio lightly 3-4x per week, slightly lighter weights (shorter rest periods), lose 4-5 pounds

I just bulk now

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[casualbb]

Well if you do ABCDE and then go do a split routine during the bulking cycle most of the gain will be fat because a split routine doesn't provide much system-wide growth stimulus. By comparison, if you are able to create a muscle growth demand in all muscles and sustain it for the two weeks of bulking (a la fullbody routines) then the growth should be phenomenal, with less fat.

I never tried it because I can't stand starvation.

-casualbb

 

[JollyRogers]

omg excellent artical, im reading all of it, cycle protien up 3 days like 300 g down to 60 g for 3 days get your nitro up then shut it down with low g take, neato, ...lol you have to read it yourself.

 

[edgecrusher]

Dan Duchaine wrote an article about this program as well. To follow it to the letter and stay lean, you have to have a rather fast moving metabolism, if you don't you will probably end up putting on a good amount of blubber.

 

[Needhelp]

Well I have a pretty fast metabolism, I think. So you guys are saying a full body routine rather than monday chest/tris tuesday back/bi's, etc. would be better?

Like a 3 day full body routine or more days than that? High volume?

I think the article recommends a normal split but very high intensity then a full body routine with higher reps for the cut....

I'm definately gonna try this during the summer though--gonna bulk with a normal diet and split first--that way I can tell if the gains from this are real or just beginner gains.

 

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[Needhelp]

t-mag wrote an article ( http://t-mag.com/html/body_59abcde.html ) with an updated version, they made.

It seems more geared towards fat loss than maximum muscle gain without minimal fat gain.. And there's is a lot more complicated.

If anyone has tried the original ABCDE, please post or if you just have suggestions.

 

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[Cuts]

What's your bf% at right now? Cuz I wouldn't recommend anyone who's over 15% to try it, since it's almost certain that you'll end up gaining fat

 

[Needhelp]

Not for sure what it is now.. i'm 170lbs @ 6ft, 31inch waist. I can see cuts in my abs, but not the lower abs.. (starting to go away though)

I want to bulk (pretty clean bulk) for 3 months though before I try this, so I hopefully get to around 180lbs in 3 months with minimal fat gain.

In the articles they say you actually lose fat.. Probably not someone with a slow metabolism, but wouldn't it be possible if you had a fast metabolism--I think I do.