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bruce9241

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I've been eating a lot less protein lately. I know people here suggest 1-2 grams of protein per body weight if you're cutting weight, but I've been eating maybe 1/2 gram of protein per body weight. I just got fed up with having to eat like 10 egg whites every 3 hours or so.

The thing is I don't think I've lost muscle or strength. My deadlifts have improved and my squats have maintained. My overhead press have maintained as well.

So... I sthe 1-2 grams of protein really necesarry? Keep in mind I'm not a professional body builder or weightlifter. Just a regular fat guy losing weight and getting strong. Maybe it's because I don't have too much muscle to begin with so I'm not losing the muscle I don't have?
 
The whole eat a certain about protein per LB of bodyweight is a bunch of crap.

why?

Because your bodyfat isn't utilizing that protein in any way directly. The rule should really apply to LBM. I've had that discussion with a number of people who compete and they tend to agree. Actually my old personal training director(who was damn close to getting his pro card) was the guy who taught me this and it made a bunch of sense

The thing is, aside from spending more $$ and more pooping/gas, people can't really find a downside in eating protein so they just tend to go as high on protien as possible. whatever doesn't get utilized in the muscles will be used as fuel.

so it's not really detrimental (aside from your butthole and wallet), its just not necessary.

Your case is different yeah. If you're a "fat guy" you've probably had the muscle mass you've had for awhile. Homeostasis is a powerful thing. You're not going to need the same protein requirements for maintaining that base that you would need for building additional muscle. But the same rule applies. It's your LBM that needs the protein to build muscle, not the water weight or fat on your body.
 
I remember back in the day not sure what year. I watched craig titus do an interview and this was before he went completely fuggin nuts. He looked his absolute best and the guy doing the interview asked him what he did different to prepare for the show. He said he started working with some guy that was also involved with dorian. He cut his protein intake in half and also dropped a bunch of other carbs. After I watched this interview I was like wtf. I never really knew if he was full of shit or not. I have tried up to 2 grams per pound and to be honest I think anything over a gram is a waste for the average bro. It gets to the point where eating all that protein turns into a job. I like to have about 200- 250 grams per day and I weigh around 220-230.
 
500 grams is golden.
 
Really high protein consumption stresses the liver, and since the liver is a key player in anabolism, I can see this habit tending to inhibit muscle growth.

During a building phase I've found all I need is 1 gram daily of complete protein (eggs, meat, not grains or beans) per pound of LBM. I've never noticed any increased muscle gain at all from eating more than that. During maintenance phases about .70 per LBM pound is enough.
 
the real key to protein is frequency.

missing meals has a far more drastic effect than the difference between consuming 30 grams of protein and 50 grams in a meal.
 
Total caloric intake is more important that Protein consumption.

There I said it.

Simple Physics, energy in vs. energy out. The single most important aspect of gaining or losing weight.
 
I keep lol at willows avi


anyway, when I first started playing around with macros I remember someone saying just increase your protien to 1 gram per lb of LEAN body mass, which for me is 140-150
and screw the rest, youll see fat loss and maintenance of muscle mass
for me this worked but I have no idea ofthe real whys hows other then, I just wasnt hungry for much else after all the fricken protien! so maybe accidental keto
 
calveless wonder said:
The whole eat a certain about protein per LB of bodyweight is a bunch of crap.

why?

Because your bodyfat isn't utilizing that protein in any way directly. The rule should really apply to LBM. I've had that discussion with a number of people who compete and they tend to agree. Actually my old personal training director(who was damn close to getting his pro card) was the guy who taught me this and it made a bunch of sense

The thing is, aside from spending more $$ and more pooping/gas, people can't really find a downside in eating protein so they just tend to go as high on protien as possible. whatever doesn't get utilized in the muscles will be used as fuel.

so it's not really detrimental (aside from your butthole and wallet), its just not necessary.

Your case is different yeah. If you're a "fat guy" you've probably had the muscle mass you've had for awhile. Homeostasis is a powerful thing. You're not going to need the same protein requirements for maintaining that base that you would need for building additional muscle. But the same rule applies. It's your LBM that needs the protein to build muscle, not the water weight or fat on your body.
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it's an incredibly inefficient source of fuel, though. . .i probably get more than a really need. . .but, i guess it's the whole lbm thing. . .how the heck do i know what my lbm is? give or take a couple of pounds??
 
bruce9241 said:
I've been eating a lot less protein lately. I know people here suggest 1-2 grams of protein per body weight if you're cutting weight, but I've been eating maybe 1/2 gram of protein per body weight. I just got fed up with having to eat like 10 egg whites every 3 hours or so.

The thing is I don't think I've lost muscle or strength. My deadlifts have improved and my squats have maintained. My overhead press have maintained as well.

So... I sthe 1-2 grams of protein really necesarry? Keep in mind I'm not a professional body builder or weightlifter. Just a regular fat guy losing weight and getting strong. Maybe it's because I don't have too much muscle to begin with so I'm not losing the muscle I don't have?
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a few weeks ago you made a thread on the weightlifting forum saying you have been stuck only being able to do 12 dips even though you have lost like 20+lbs of bodyweight. I would say that alone tells you that you have infact lost muscle AND strength.
 
Smurfy said:
Ive never eaten a lot of protein. Even when I had visible muscle development
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Maybe you don't eat much but I hear you drink a lot of it. :theshadow
 
it all depends on your goals. That being said, everyone is different, and what works for one won't necessarily work for everyone (to the same degree anyway).
 
ExtraMile said:
a few weeks ago you made a thread on the weightlifting forum saying you have been stuck only being able to do 12 dips even though you have lost like 20+lbs of bodyweight. I would say that alone tells you that you have infact lost muscle AND strength.
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Yea I've lost muscle and weight no doubt. But the thing is I've been dieting for about 5 months now. During these 5 months the first 3 months I've eaten 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight, then I got tired of it and started to eat less protein. During my second two months I haven't noticed any strength loss from less protein. If anything I've put on pounds in my deadlifts and I've gotten some strenght back in my overhead presses.

I just got tired of eating all that protein. It was a chore I swear. Every 3 hours I was downstairs making 10 egg whites and other stuff.
 
So I'm only eating about 120-150 grams of protein right now. I reside at about 210 pounds right now with a lot of body fat. Not sure what the amount is, but it's a lot. Haven't noticed any strength loss. If anything I've been farting less and saving money on eggs and meats.
 
ceo said:
lol @ 1 gram per lb of bodyweight being a lot. Hell, that's not even trying for me. I doubt it's even maintenance!
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agreed. . .i have a shake in the morning (100 grams) and a shake before bed (100 grams) and i eat meat (usually red because i need the fat) two or three other times during the day, mon thru fri. . .sat and sun i'm on a see-food diet :)
 
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